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In view of the current situation I am re-reading the first Flashman book, the one where he gets expelled, joins the 11th Hussars, goes to Afghanistan and becomes Bloody Lance, The Hero of Kabul by mistake. So, Flash Harry: womaniser, coward, bully, all-round cad, AND insightful commentator on war, bravery, race, and human nature. What d'ye think, damn your eyes?

Sam, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Absolute genius. Almost makes Tom Browns Schooldays worthwhile existing. Probably the best lovable rogue in Modern English Literature. (And I meant to capitalise it.)

Pete, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Has anyone read George MacDonald's OTHER books: I always mean to, but never do. I used an idea I cribbed from the Indian Mutiny Flashman in one of my moral philosophy papers at college. Something to the effect that the most bloodthirsty people are the ones who have had to wait for what they consider a "moral" reason to wage a war... This was the paper I got lowest marks on.

mark s, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Please note that George Macdonald Fraser != George Macdonald, who was the author of some very boring children's books which feature a lot of fairies and stuff. As for non-Flashman books, I have read Mr. American, which is great. (although Flashman is in it for a few pages). Best one? Tie between Royal Flash and Flash for Freedom! Worst? Flashman and the Dragon is crap, as far as I remember. I think it's about the Boxer Rebellion.

Sam, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surely 'very boring children's books' = 'seminal contribution to invention of fantasy literature with an under-rated but important place in the development of the nineteenth century novel in Scotland combining psychological and anthropological insights in the fashion popularised by Frazer's _Golden Bough_, Barrie's _Peter Pan_ etc. etc.'

alex t, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, absolutely. Same thing.

Sam, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thought so! Fairies rox. Fairies vs. Pirates anyone?

alex t, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think you mean Faeries vs. Pyrates.

Sam, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Will there be magick?

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Spelling magic "magick" is Lambrini-strength annoying. Also calling comics "comix".

Tom, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about vampyres?

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh elven faerie folk! Hearken thou to the call to wander gaily o'er hill and dale! The trees can't help their feeling, if they like the way they're made! The tyrant's face is red! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! OH NOW OH NOW OH NOW OH...

Um, never mind.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why Led Zepplin Is Better Than Jethro Tull: An Essaye By Ned Raggett, Esq.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yea verily. Forsooth, even.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pah this is beginner's stuff: the word "yclept" has not yet been dropped.

mark s, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

MC Midearth - Droppin' Yclept

In stores next tenday! Order nowe and receive thee newe single "Chasin' Mutton"!

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thredde changeling bigad! A pox on't!

(Do you think "changeling" is an acceptable Anglo-Saxon alternative to the slightly-too-Latinate "mutation"? Answers on a parchment please.)

Sam, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

George MacDonald = C.S. Lewis's favorite author, apparently. I keep thinking I'll read one of his books sometime.

Maria, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
i reread royal flash at home while looking after my dad, and the starts of flashman at the charge and flashman and the great game (actual real live research, for my "if..." project)

haha flashman is farting so loudly at the charge of the light brigade that lord cardigan says "can you not contain youtself, you disgusting fellow?" ("contain yrself" is one of my favourite phrases)

i like the way GMF has footnotes where he says things like: "flashman's memory is surely at fault here: the duke of wellington's wife had been dead for three years..."

mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 October 2002 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
I just finished the copy of Flashman I found in my bookcase, although my landfriend denies ownership.

As sequels go, it was more entertaining than Tom Brown at Oxford and similarly filled with trivia about codes of conduct. I especially liked how he manipulates everyone else's concerns about self-honor to cheat his way through the duel with Bernier. A much more interesting account of a duel than that of Van Veen's in Ada.

I also enjoyed the deadpan humor of the "notes."

This copy has really lurid cover art that makes it look like a Harlequin Romance. As I was reading it on the subway last week, an older woman collapsed in the seat next to me and mentioned that she had accidentally taken the subway in the wrong direction. After I nodded sympathetically, she presumed enough familiarity to ask what I was reading, looked at the cover art and then said "It doesn't look like high literature." Rockist! At least I know which subway I'm taking.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 02:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought that this thread would be about Mega Man 2.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 07:26 (twenty-three years ago)

it still can be. jess to thread!

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

i expect in abt ten yrs time GMF will have written flashman into the Mega Man story also...

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Flashman and the Interweb Mentalists

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

ten years pass...

I'm devouring the Flashman books at the moment, love em. Such a great (despicable) character, and lots of eye-opening lessons on the more obscure and weird corners of the Victorian era.

Apparently there is a film in pre-production starring Fassbender.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:54 (twelve years ago)

Flashman is pure caricature and very cartoony, but really well done at the same time. Macdonald Frazier makes the effort to get his historic details in good order and he knows how to operate the machinery of a potboiler, while also satirizing them.

My only criticism was he wrote too many Flashman books. But he was forced into it by their popularity, much as Conan Doyle was by Sherlock Holmes, although Flashman is not as great an invention as Holmes was.

Aimless, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)

I read Black Ajax over Xmas, just about enjoyed it but was stuck thinking that elements of racism that were in it might not have just been a reflection of the time - early 19th century as I'd initially dismissed them.
Not sure what George Macdonald Fraser's own politics were but have enjoyed previous books by him, have read 2 or 3 Flashman books and meant to read more.
Not seen th efilm in years but know the cast is pretty good and think it was enjoyuable. Did see it as a kid, like pre-teen at the cinema which has me wondering what the certificate was. Couldn't have really been viewed as a family film can it?

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)

I adore these books. They tail away towards the end of the series, but the last one - in which Flashy gallops assorted Ethiopian princesses and escapes a madman - is a cracker.

Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)

I like his "McAuslan" series, about serving with a Scottish regiment in North Africa after the war. Light, but quite funny.

pauls00, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)

Not sure what George Macdonald Fraser's own politics were

Pretty old-school Tory I think.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:01 (twelve years ago)

His memoir of serving in Burma (Myanmar) during WWII is also worth reading. Can't recall the title atm.

Aimless, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

"Quartered Safe out here"....yeah, a good read, but a lot of his politics do come through there, as described above, more or less.

pauls00, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:22 (twelve years ago)


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