Terminator 3: The Secret of Krupke's Basement

Nick Stahl is terrific (he really kills that trailer-line: "You. Are. About. To. Fail. Your. Mission!") as is Claire Danes, who probably has to do the most acting in the movie.

Given that, I was pretty damn pleased with it. Like you say -- not as CGI-heavy as you'd expect. That came off a little weird: the new Terminator seems more ... mechanical, less "liquid metal," than Robert Patrick's did (but she got the walk down perfect! That was creepy). It looked like SkyNet had been downsizing -- I mean, she's efficient and all, but just didn't seem as high tech as Patrick's Terminator.

Loved the ending (and was grateful for it). Loved the explanation for why, exactly, there is a sequel, given that the world was already saved in T2. Could've done with more exploration of that, but hell, it's an action movie.

I was surprised by how funny it was in places, and more specifically: most of the times when it was funny, I was surprised because I wasn't expecting funny just then.

Oh, and it was good to see Claire Danes again.

The ending was great. Excellent reveal there.

I'm happy to see Stahl doing good for himself. And Danes really needed rescuing after Brokedown Palace, eww.

Poor Danes, she wasn't even top-billed on any of the posters I saw for this film. That's what four years hibernating in New Haven will do to someone's career.

I've never been a fan of this series, so I'll catch this on video unless a friend is dying to see it.

PS: Pirates of the Caribbean was good too.

Yes! Can't wait to see it...

in fact this is quite often so, but it still seems weird and dumm to me — it looks like a silly mistake

i quite like big billboard typos, it sticks it to the Man i feel

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how did it take me 4 years to finally see this movie??!
it is dark
and ACTION PACKED!
i like the part where arnold's circuits get corrupted and he takes his frustration out on the hood of a car
and then the part right after that where the new version terminator crashes a helicopter inside a bunker and 1 minute later arnold version terminator does the same thing inside the same bunker!

rrrobyn you are eating oreos and watching action movies

:-*

"JUST DIE YOU BITCH"

Ten reasons Terminator 3 is better than T2.

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2004/10/terminator/

good comments there. i agree.

I feel like there were too many time travel opportunities missed in the Terminator movies. Why not go back further? Terminator vs. Nazis, Terminator vs. Queen Victoria, Terminator vs. Tutanhkhamen. It could have been good.

great post on freakytrigger, love the 'thumbs up' point.

rrrobyn you are eating oreos and watching action movies

yeah :/ this is b/c i am involved in/doing too many things that are heavy
rest of week involves nothing oreo or action-movie related so i had to build a cache rite

the creepiest moment in T2 is still the face lick. all of the asylum scenes are great.

man!!!

i gotta see this again!!!

Rampage on May 15th, 2007

The thumbs up was awesome. You suck and have a shitty sense of taste.

lololol he mad

wtf

http://imdb.com/title/tt0438488/

directed by "McG"

yeah McG's been attached for a while. horrible title. why do sequels these days always have to have these super-long convoluted titles?

it lacks the poetry of a Beastmaster 2: Through the Portal of Time

McG? Nooooooooo!!!!

THE FUTURE BEGINS

Terminator: Salvation: The Future: Begins

Christian Bale adds a bit of credibility, no?

Yes, because of his honorable life making post-apocalypse movies:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JDVV.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

they could just use that movie but scrub out the dragons and cgi-in some robots.

also remove mcconaughey and put in lucy liu

Only if she's still voiced by McConaughey.

why did i like this movie??

an absolute travesty to the Terminator franchise.

?

T2 = waaaay too long, boring for a healthy bit of it, and crappy "we make our own destiny" ending
T3 = decent running time, moves along briskly with fine action scenes, and a great "no matter what you do ya'lls is fucked" ending

what the hell does this thread title mean

T3 is a joke of a movie in my opinion.

what the hell does this thread title mean

-- and what, Thursday, March 6, 2008 8:25 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

have you seen the movie?

I think I like T and T3 better than T2

Yup I'm right

i think all this revisionist t2 hating is bullshit but i'm not willing to watch the movie again and see for sure

I bought the special edition DVD a few years ago and tried to watch it again and was bored by all the stupid

T1 and T3 make boatloads of sense in comparison (deadly apocalyptic sense!!)

I also love how skynet is not actually skynet in T3! it's just a big powerful supercomputer that gets plugged into the filthy internet by government idiots and gets infested with an autonomous distributed virus AI, leading to FORBIN DOOM FOR EVERYONE!!!! I love it because that is actually going to happen.

seeing a little bit of that tv show gave me a renewed appreciation for T2 (esp. linda hamilton being a tough motherfucker).

Linda Hamilton is probably secretly the real reason I like T2 so much.

does a Hamilton negate a Furlong?

NO

I don't know whether to be annoyed or overjoyed that the new movie isn't going to pay attention to the current tv series. There's kind of that "ANYTHING could become skynet!" attitude on the tv show that is great.

from furlong to nick stahl to the wite kid on the tv show: i love the idea that any actor under 25 w/ a military jacket and jeans on = john connor

The TV show is way more fun than T3

T1 is not that good either

no

I don't understand any of the time-travelling. Connor Daddy jumps back in time to protect Connor Baby (conceiving him in the process) - but how did they know he needed to jump back and protect Connor Baby in the first place?

http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/300/a/avpvt1.jpg

john connor and skynet are basically completely dependent on one another to exist duh. it is like how the matrix cannot exist without neo

http://del.icio.us/WIZARDISHUNGRY/time_travel

Why hello

1. if john connor is not born then there is no reason for skynet to send the terminator
2. if the terminator is not sent to kill sarah connor then skynet does not evolve
3. if skynet does not develop time travel then john connor cannot send his father back in time to ensure his birth

eg, the solution to saving the human race is actually to go back in time to before the events of T1 and kill sarah connor THEN, before the cycle begins and wipes out 90% of us

if we stay here all night we can figure it out

T1 is not that good either

-- remy bean, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:54 (Yesterday) Link

RONG

T1 is not that good either

-- remy bean, Thursday, March 6, 2008 10:54 PM

RONG lol xp

vvv a much better idea for t3 than the actual t3

"In this scenario, John, from a point in the future beyond all of the time travelers to date, devises a way to build a weakness into Skynet. In order to win the war, he must return to the past and penetrate the systems of the company which ultimately develops Skynet. At this point he must create the flaw, a weakness which will be undetected by the developers, and which will not prevent the war or any of the temporal transits previously made, but which the rebels can use after he leaves for the past to end the war. While he is in the past, he must give to his younger self the secret, but in a form which the young John cannot fully comprehend until he reaches the same point in the future. Thus, John will understand that a weakness exists in Skynet because he went back in time and put it there, and that that weakness must not be accessed until after he goes back in time, or time is lost. This creates a simple N-Jump, at the end of which the rebels will be able to stop Skynet by accessing that weakness.

To keep it in harmony with the other Terminator movies, we should suggest that, in the space of time between John's exit to the past and his ability to stop Skynet, Skynet sends another Terminator into the past, this time to destroy the older John before he can effect his change; a more sophisticated machine, it will recognize that it can win by killing either John, and that it can use John's mother as a bargaining chip as long as it has her alive. This will give us the full action of the previous terminator movies. However, the younger John cannot be killed without creating an infinity loop, and the older John must finish the work and return to the future to take advantage of it."

that idea is a dick

i didn't say it was a good idea

"john connor must go back in time to hack into the mainframe."

John Tronner.

MCP superior to Skynet and the Matrix, etc.

now that would be awesome. the tronimator.

Ahnuld hefting around a killer frisbee...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/Robocop_versus_The_Terminator_box_uk.jpg/250px-Robocop_versus_The_Terminator_box_uk.jpg

from furlong to nick stahl to the wite kid on the tv show: i love the idea that any actor under 25 w/ a military jacket and jeans on = john connor

-- gff, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:43 (Yesterday) Link

i'm more lolling at the idea that all these guys grow up to be christian bale.

as long as he doesn't use that f*ucking batman voice.

patrick bateman is the the terminator.

Matt Johnson better run for his life.

i remember that game. it was pretty bloody.

many pixelated bad guys' lives were lost;_;

well that was...meh...

caught a bit of this tonight, a big setpiece involving a crane. It didn't seem like anything that wasn't done better in T2, and John Conner struck me as a bit twattish.

The best individual scenes from T3 lose to the worst individual scenes from T2, but I agree with those who like the idea of the third movie better. T2 is an absolutely undefeated thrill ride of guns, explosions, one-liners, twists, soundtrack intensity, special effects (T-1000 still looks great, fuck the haters) - but T3 follows through on the fundamentally bleak time-loop premise and conclusions of the original Terminator. The future that we can't change - which in fact resets itself to adjust for our pitiful attempts to alter it - is a less overused idea in fiction than the dark future that we narrowly avert.

(Though, the X-Men books have been playing around, unofficially, with the same basic outline for a couple of decades now - NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO there is always at least one horrible future where mutants get thrown into death camps...)

Man, Robocop vs. Termintor was a gnarly game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wlsd9mljiU

Does the movie actually look this bad and amateurish or is it just that someone ripped it with motion smoothing on?

I was so bored watching this movie in the theater I started idly biting my nails, a habit that took me 10 years to break

Weird. I just watched the first and second. Was wondering if 3 was worth a watch.

3's a significant drop from the first two but has some good set pieces and the ending rules