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Has a sitting president ever made a remark as seditious as this one?

Further evidence that for George Bush, scapegrace of the fortunate class, politics is an Arnold Schwartzenegger movie.

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/03/iraq/main561567.shtml

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

http://guiltyrecords.free.fr/inserts/2angelainserts0.jpg

― Dada, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah bring 'em on! It's not like the guys out there are my kids, or the kids of anybody I know, or the kids of anybody who knows somebody I know!

Fuck this shitbait already

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.reelinsider.com/bringiton.jpg

― Dada, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"Just when I thought you couldn't say anything stupider, you just keep on talking."

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"Seditious"?

And, regardless of what I think of Bush or this comment, in the broad context, yes, it's a pretty tame comment. If there'd been press conferences and television cameras around when Andrew Jackson was president -- the guy who trashed the White House with his buddies in celebration? -- in comparison, Bush would come across like the grandfather in Silver Spoons.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

sedition: Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state.

This is a perfect example of the "soft bigotry of low expectations" that Bush benefits from. People are so accustomed to what are perceived as his harmless malapropisms that when he makes a genuinely horrifying comment such as this one--a comment that I think betrays a big chunk of his worldview--people let it pass. Whereas if a president who was universally acknowledged as competent made such a comment, there'd be hell to pay.

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

amateurist otm...this ties in nicely with my feeling of "eh" when i read about that us/uk extradition treaty

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Tep: I'd rather Bush and Rumsfeld held a sprawling toga party in the Corcoran than the former invite Iraqi insurgents to shoot at American troops so the latter can eventually demonstrate their superiority (a.k.a. Bush's huge prosthetic cock).

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a way to say that we'll do whatever is necessary without expressing a complete and utter disdain for the lives of the troops on the ground. Unfortunately Bush is too oratorically imbecilic to figure this out. Shit for brains.

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I grok what sedition means; I think it's a pointlessly loaded word to use in this context. Especially when you're asking something as broad and leading as "has any president ever," when the answer is definitively "yes, yes, many times yes."

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

2000-2004 (hopefully) is going to be remembered as a weird, weird time in american history, no doubt...(weirder than watergate or the contra hearings or or...i dunno)...clearly we're living in a stranger world than any sf writer could have predicted 50 years ago < /cliche>

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

This doesn't bother me as much as that whole "I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now watch me hit this drive" thing from that golf-course fund-raiser last year, but it's still deeply irksome (to me at least). Kinda like if you took that drunk uncle nobody trusts to drive a riding mower and put him in the pilot seat of a 747.

I wish you were wrong Jess.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Totally lacks the smooth bad-assness of when a reporter asked Trudeau how far he'd go combatting the FLQ Terrorists: "Just watch me," he says, and then invoked the War Measures Act (essentially Martial Law).

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.davidsj.com/revsam/screw.jpg

― Dada, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

YOu need to stop making me laugh so hard fux0r!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"may you live in interesting times"

also dada you're very hit and miss you realize this

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

the Dada backlash starts here

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

"he sounds like a gangsta" -- al sharpton OTM about "bring 'em on."

what's really sad is how numb i am getting at this caliber of dumb shit flowing from bushie's mouth when he's unscripted. or worse is the thought that it was scripted. our troops in iraq deserve better.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 10 July 2003 08:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Did Dubya do that beckoning thing with his hand that the Rock does?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"Can you smell what the President of the United States is cookin'?"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahem, I believe I started the Dada backlash after about 10 minutes.

< /smug dickface >

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Smug AND hates fun. I'm a champ!

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

You also have crazy hole punchers!!

(Seriously, between the constant tv presence in NYC of Bloomberg basically yelling "Nyah nyah nyah, well I don't care what the rest of you think, I'm the boss of you, BEEYOTCH!" and the interjection of Bush, I'm starting to think that life isn't worth living)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Bloomberg's election is your folks' fault and the rest of the country laughs at you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't bloody vote for him. He hates people who dance, smoke, and like bridges. HE IS THE BIZARRO ME.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, hang on, I am the bizarro you too!

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Jeff Bridges? Todd Bridges?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark, you dislike bridges? Don't make me sick the nonsideburned one on you.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

*RAURGH!*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Nash Bridges

― Neudonym, Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Beau Bridges? Chris Bridges (aka Ludacris)?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

That's really not so scary, unfortunately. *sigh*

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

No no! I like bridges! I am from a bridge-building family (apparently we worked our way across northern Italy building them in the 14th and 15th centuries before settling in Veneto), and I shall be studying them close up when I'm in Venice next month.

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Upon rereading, I realized that Mark said he was the bizarro U2.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, then why did you say you don't like bridges? I'm confused now. Typical male behavior! Like Bloomberg and Bush!

Bizarro U2=Weezer.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

bizarro u2 is clearly ugly kid joe

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely bizarro U2 = Vengaboys!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

dan is otm.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh! I read it as "likeS bridges" (but hates smoking etc.) Hurrah! I am not bizarro-linked to Ally in any way, except perhaps re: hole punchers.

(NB we have a hole puncher with a three foot arm in this office. Is this a record?)

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

You've been bizarro following all my posts today! YOU ARE BIZARRO ME!!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, shoot.

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 10 July 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

It's cool, we can still hug.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally is makin' her move on The Vengaboys!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 July 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I demand rides on the Vengabus!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 July 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep, it is an awful remark but I don't think it gives us any *more* insight to Bushs' mind-set/worldview. It is what it is and IT IS fucking horrible. Don't even get me started in his current tour of Africa - the most cynical exercise EVAH!

― Eduardo (Rivers and a Lighter), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Bono and Bush should do Africa TOGETHER yelling 'BIZARRO! BIZARRO! BIZARRO!' at everyone and puking ice cubes all over the place.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, sure, to be honest it simply seems further confirmation of already-held suspicions about Bush. Namely that for him our recent military adventurism is not the difficult result of a process in which other options are weighed and debated and reweighed, but an "exciting" task whose every "success" (in the measurable form of blood being spilt, and photo ops being designed on which the manichean rhetoric of good v. bad can be mapped without much dissonance) grants Bush additional leeway to strut his stuff and marvel at the breadth of his shiny metal-n-leather prosthesis.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 10 July 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"Finally, the Bush is back in Iraq!"

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 10 July 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

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