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Stop for a moment and consider how powerful the sensation of
orgasm is -
not only physically, but socially, economically, and politically.
It's kind of like the world's most powerful and addictive drug.
What would the world be like if we didn't experience orgasm?
Would the world's problems be better, worse, or what?

― Squirl plise, Thursday, 10 July 2003 09:20 (twenty-two years ago)

What would the world be like if we didn't experience orgasm?

DULL

Would the world's problems be better, worse, or what?

WORSE, WORSER, WORSEST!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 10 July 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Think about it though. Rape, overpopulation, poverty,
pollution, all these things would (perhaps) be affected.
We've all experienced moments of pure joy and happiness
that were nonsexual. R U sure you wouldn't be willing to
give it up?

― squirl plise (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 July 2003 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

All art is ultimately sexual display... especially music... the world would become a boring place quite fast.

Not to mention the fact that without the incentive for sex that the orgasm brings, the species would fail to reproduce, and therefore become extinct, the end.

― kate (kate), Thursday, 10 July 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

hey now. i didn't specify a world without sex - just a world without orgasm. sex is plenty enjoyable up to the orgasm. so you can't wiggle out of it with such broad sweeping statements about extinction.

― masta ace (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

You are talking utter physiological bollocks for a start.

I know women can and frequently do have sex (and propegation) without orgasm. But when was the last time a man ejaculated without orgasm? No orgasm, no ejaculation, no reproduction, end of species. I'm not wiggling out of anything, I'm just pointing out physical fact.

― kate (kate), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

kate YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
the question is effing hypothetical. imagine a world without
orgasm - that's all! not a world without reproduction. and men ejaculate without orgasm, it happens, i have done it myself.

― mast ace (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

So instead of imaginging a world without sex/reproduction, you are imaginging a world without sex for pleasure? Judging by the animal kingdom, I'd say that would be nasty, brutish and short. Thank you, no.

You haven't addressed the art = sexual display issues, either. How much of music would you have to dispense with? Most of it, I'd imagine.

― kate (kate), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"nasty, brutish and short"

wow, you think our collective human history doesn't match this?
you seem to be saying that sex is the root of all that is good or
praiseworthy. i'd like to think we're slightly more complex then
that. i like to think that art is created for a variety of reasons.
most of the greatest works of music were written for 1 express
purpose, money.
(bach, for example, was a composer for hire, very workmanlike
and unpretentious)

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I'm not saying that sex is the root of all that is good or praiseworthy. It is the root of ALL. That is all.

The drive to have sex for something OTHER than procreation - i.e. for orgasm, or for pleasure - is the root of something that makes us uniquely human. And if you eliminate it, you eliminate a lot of things that make human life interesting - as well as the bits of human life bad e.g. Rape, violence, etc.

Overpopulation is as much, if not MORE of a problem in the animal world. It's not orgasm that causes it, but elimination of natural predators. In humans' case, their biggest predator was disease - plague was a natural cull. Should we eliminate medicine in that case?

― kate (kate), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

So instead of imaginging a world without sex/reproduction, you are imaginging a world without sex for pleasure?

Kate do you really gain no pleasure from sex outside the orgasm? Because other people do.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

"the drive to have sex for something OTHER than procreation"
...
"if you eliminate it you eliminate a lot of things that make
human life interesting"

this is a statement you are making that is probably true
but i am not entirely sure. i didn't have any hidden message
when i posted the question, i just noted to myself earlier that
having sex (and climaxing) with a woman can remind me of being high or stoned. anyway...

― skwirl phlise (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate do you really gain no pleasure from sex outside the orgasm? Because other people do.

That's not what I said, nor what I experience. I'm trying to puzzle out what Skwhirl is trying to get at.

At this point, I just give up and wander off.

― kate (kate), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

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