I thought I should let everyone, but especially Tom, know about it, if they don't know already.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kim, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tom, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"To places where I'm not?"
"You talked of plans. Have you any yourself?"
"Yes. I have a plan. But it's a lonely one, you know."
"You're thinking of going away."
"When are you going?"
"Now - immediately!"
"Are you staying away long?"
"No, on the first day of spring I shall be here again whistling under your window - a year goes by so quickly!"
"Yes. Cheerio then!"
"So long!"
*echo*
"All small beasts should have bows in their tails ..."
Means even more to me now than it always has. Am as close to crying as I'll ever be on a mere internet forum. I still wonder the same thing as you, Mark.
(ps I made the same mistake as Kim for *years*, I'm afraid ...)
― Robin Carmody, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The clocks stopped ticking one by one.
― the pinefox, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
What an imagineer you are if it didn't.
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
First interpretation, when a teen myself (and perhaps not sure what a "graphic artist" was), was that this was militant tweeness: TJ lived with an Imaginary Friend.
Second interp: when ambivalence kicked in, in my late 20s, as a grown-up lifestyle option sighwas that Tooticki was male, but TJ liked to portray him female.
Third interp: Not so long ago (three years) reread it, and tht, "Oh, maybe..." But then forgot, to be honest. No mention of children, y'see: we anti-breeders grab at such flimsy straws for self-affirmation, y'know.
Guardian obit, by Ros Coward, yesterday: "Her lifetime companion was Tuulikka Pietelä, a well-known artist and professor of graphics on whom the character of Too-Ticky was based."
"Too-Ticky looked at him with her calm, blue eyes. Still, he wasn't quite sure that she really did see him. She was looking into her own private winter world that had followed its own strange rules years after year, while he had lain sleeping in the warm Moominhouse." Some straws not flimsy.
― mark s, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I have both the picture books, which are unsurprisingly worth it for the pictures. I'll try and bring them to the ILE meet-up, if anyone wants to see them (and it happens when I'm not on holiday).
― Tom, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Ros Coward wrote the obituary? CRAZY!!!
Robin C: no, I didn't just imagineer it.
― the pinefox, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Andrew L, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― alex thomson, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)
Elama ei ole rauhallista, Nuuskamuikken sanoi ihastuneena.
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 13 March 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)
(not so much his doomrat, as i first wrote)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)
i realised that i am the love child of the hemulen who loved silence and the fillyjonk who believed in disasters
(from the first i get my immese wisdom as a music critic, from the second my compassion as a political commentator ahem)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)
sigh, swoon, sigh.
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 13 March 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.sortof.co.uk/Winter/index.html
Rejoice again!
http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/shopCatalogLong.php?st=art&art=a43cd43019761a
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)
It's rather frustrating to look at Wikipedia and see that she wrote 8 or 9 books for adults that have never been translated into English. Someone needs to get on that.
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)
― The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 8 February 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)
I love her perhaps more than any other author.
― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 10 February 2007 08:19 (eighteen years ago)
― Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Saturday, 10 February 2007 09:05 (eighteen years ago)
― Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Saturday, 10 February 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)
― Matt Olken (Moodles), Saturday, 10 February 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)
Just read A Winter Book. "Messages" is amazingly bonkers:
-We are contacting you in connection with this year's marmalade promotion, in the first instance wondering if there would be any chance of a previously unpublished Moomin comic strip on the theme of marmalade
-Hi dear unknown fairy-tale auntie, we're a group of young folks with Ideas! What d'you think?
-Can't you draw me a Snufkin that I can have painted on my arm as a symbol of freedom?
-My cat's died! Write at once
On the other hand, the story made up of letters from a Japanese teenager is utterly heartbreaking.
― clotpoll, Saturday, 2 June 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)
I love love love this cover
http://www.nybooks.com/shop/product-file/31/thes7931/product.jpg
― caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:36 (seventeen years ago)
i was just looking at that in the store the other day!
― s1ocki, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
love nyrb press
I knew she was already dead.
― I know, right?, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)
xp, I love their covers. The only one I have is the John Collier one. I haven't been able to bring myself to read it yet though, because the typography is terrible. Letters too dark, too many lines on a page, really cheap pulpy printing : ( Are they all like that?
― caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
It makes me really happy to see that on the recommended shelf at pretty much every bookstore I walk into.
― clotpoll, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:11 (seventeen years ago)
Have there been any more English-language reprints of the Moomin comic strips after the one which came out a couple of years ago? Anyone who likes Jansson or the Moomins should check the comic out, I think it's pretty much just as good as the Moomin books, though a bit more adult-oriented in its themes. (Tove's brother Lars Jansson took over the strip after a few years, because she was unable to meet the deadlines, but his scripts for the comic are possibly even better than Tove's even if his art isn't always on the same level.)
― Tuomas, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:20 (seventeen years ago)
There was a second volume, but I don't know if there are plans for further reprints.
― clotpoll, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)
Weren't the comics originally in English?
Volume 3 (of 5) comes out September 30 according to Amazon.
― caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:28 (seventeen years ago)
I remember in the previous thread we had about them someone mentioned that they're only going to reprint the strips Tove did by herself. If so, that's a shame, because they're going to miss lots of great late 60s and early 70s stories... Like the ones where beatniks and hippies and anarchists visit Moominvalley, or when Moomintroll and Moominpapa get appointed as policemen and the authority goes to their heads, or when the Moomins travel to a Spanish holiday resort and try some drugs.
(x-post)
I don't know what language the comics were originally were... I think they first started appearing in some British newspapers, but they were soon appearing in Finnish newspapers too. I assume Tove and Lars originally wrote them in Swedish or Finnish and someone else translated them into English.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:34 (seventeen years ago)
Beatnik one sounds awesome.
― caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)
Actually, I think the beatnik episode might already be in one of Tove's strips, but the hippies and anarchists only come later. IIRC Snork Maiden falls in love with the beatnik guy, which obviously makes Moomintroll very jealous, even though he tries to deny it. I think the social commentary in the comics is rather interesting. It seems Tove and Lars were both quite liberal and generally left-leaning, so the hippies and other such characters are not portrayed unsympathetically, but being older than the radicals of the late 60s and early 70s the Janssons can also make gentle fun of their youthful earnestness.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)
i really dislike the comics, to be honest. (i've only read one volume of the Drawn and Quarterly ones.) gaggy, and don't hold a candle to the books.
― sean gramophone, Sunday, 17 August 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)
they are very different.
I just got Vol. 2 of the comics yesterday, I have really been enjoying it.
― sleeve, Sunday, 17 August 2008 23:57 (seventeen years ago)
Is that NYRB cover by Tove herself? It looks a bit like it.
The earlier NYRB books, and the ones that are new translations, are all nicly typeset, but the more recent ones which reprint previously published stuff just tend to replicate whatever the previous typesetting was, so sometimes you get nasty-looking pages like the Collier collection. It's a fantastic book, though!
― James Morrison, Monday, 18 August 2008 00:27 (seventeen years ago)
that 'Snork Maiden falls in love with beatnik' storyline is in the second D&Q volume (and is ace)
― energy flash gordon, Monday, 18 August 2008 04:03 (seventeen years ago)
IIRC the very first Moomin strips aren't the best of the bunch, and the series does get better as it goes on. But it's true that the comic does have a rather different tone than the books (even if the main charaters are pretty much the same): it's quicker paced, less contemplative and more anarchic, and deals more with the outside world (i.e. the "real" world) than the insular world of the Moominvalley. I think both the books and the comics are great in what they do, but I can see why someone who loves the books and possibly looks for the same qualities in the comic might be disappointed by it.
― Tuomas, Monday, 18 August 2008 06:21 (seventeen years ago)
I love them both, but suffer from cognitive dissonance caused by the way the characters are in parallel worlds, rather than the books and the comics taking place in the same universe.
― James Morrison, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)
i just got all four volumes of the comics as a birthday present, and i think they're pretty cool. a somewhat different tone than the books yeah, but nicely peculiar and very identifiably moominish.
plus: they look nice on the bookshelf.
http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/images/moomin/moomincover.gif
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)
just picked one up at the ny book festival -- totally amazing
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 01:47 (sixteen years ago)
They're beautiful. Is vol 4 going to be the last?
― When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)
i think there's one more to come.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)
sorry, when I say "one" I mean a Tove Jansson book, but not one of the comics volumes.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 05:14 (sixteen years ago)
#4 is the last of the all-Tove or Tove/Lars comics. There’s enough material for another 1 volume of just Tove/Lars, and then 15 or so of all-Lars strips, but D&Q announced upfront that they would stop at the end of the Tove-only material.
― Young Scott Young (sic), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 06:19 (sixteen years ago)
There's a Vol. 4? I thought I only needed to add Vol. 3 to my collection. I got a picture book at the Brooklyn Book Festival too (last year I got Vol. 2 there). I think this is the same one that Hurting got: The Book About Moomin, Mimble and Little My
http://www.moomintrove.com/images/0953522741-0-large.jpg
― Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:31 (sixteen years ago)
i only just found out how to pronounce little my the other day cuz i met a swedish girl who's name was my
― just sayin, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:35 (sixteen years ago)
uh-oh, how do you pronounce it? i've just been using the english pronunciation all these years, it could change my whole idea of the character if i have to say it differently...
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)
so is vol. 4 the last one? d&q initially announced 5, but i can't find anything on their site that says one way or another whether 4's the end.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:42 (sixteen years ago)
you pronounce it like 'mu' the greek letter - or that's what it sounded like to me
― just sayin, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:43 (sixteen years ago)
You guys should write some angry letters to D&Q to get them to release the Lars strips too. They're in no way worse to the Tove ones, the art may be somewhat inferior, but the plots get even more wacky and groovy. At least they should reprint the story where the Moomins travel to "Torrelorca" and buy some mind-expanding "LBJ" pills from a local drug den; that one is a genuine cultural artefact of the early 70s, and funny as hell too.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)
I wz sure they announced 4 but would be pleased to be wrong
SO ANNNOYING that the vols aren't numbered btw!
― Young Scott Young (sic), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 01:08 (sixteen years ago)
coming out on Dec. 8!
http://www.nybooks.com/shop/product-file/51/thet9251/product.jpg
― clotpoll, Monday, 30 November 2009 02:15 (sixteen years ago)
this book was harsh
― clotpoll, Saturday, 2 January 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
yeah it was
― jabba hands, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)
Not sure how many ilxors there are in NW England, and of those there's likely only a small subset who will be interesed, but this looks great:
Moominvalley at Bury Art Gallery
― Bill A, Thursday, 14 October 2010 08:42 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.themillions.com/2014/10/ruthless-beautiful-dangerous-comforting-how-it-is-in-the-world-of-tove-jansson.html
― JoeStork, Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:13 (eleven years ago)
Box set of the Tove vols of the strip coming out for Christmas.
― Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:34 (eleven years ago)
I still need the last two of those
― sleeve, Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:44 (eleven years ago)
Reread The True Deceiver this weekend, such a remarkable book. No wasted space, no false sentiments. I hadn't realized there were more story collections released in the U.K., I'm unclear on how they line up with the US collections.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:48 (eight years ago)
There's also two picture books for tots: Moomin Mymble and Little My (which has holes cut in the pages so you can see thru to the next bit of the story!! Fuck you BSJohnson you plagiarist HACK!!) and Who Will Comfort Toffle?
my wife found the first one of these at a library sale, we were amazed cuz we did not know about them. her 3-year-old granddaughter loves the book! now I will be on the search for the second one.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:55 (eight years ago)
the recent biopic is on bbc4 in the obvious slot this Saturday
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:02 (three years ago)
I once sat in school for hours - no, it was DAYS! - and copied out page after page of - what's it called? - Moominvalley in Winter, I think.The clocks stopped ticking one by one.― the pinefox, Friday, 29 June 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― the pinefox, Friday, 29 June 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) bookmarkflaglink
!!
― mark s, Thursday, 9 June 2022 10:47 (three years ago)
It's true.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:12 (three years ago)
https://4columns.org/sinker-mark/tove-jansson
― mark s, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:44 (three years ago)
Do you know if Paul Gravett has seen this, Mark? I'm sure he would like to share such a nice review on Facebook etc.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 18 December 2022 14:13 (three years ago)
it only went up fri night so possibly not but thames & hudson US know abt it (and provided the images)
― mark s, Sunday, 18 December 2022 14:27 (three years ago)
Good that, Mark.
― djh, Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:37 (three years ago)
seconded
― sleeve, Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:41 (three years ago)
https://www.polygon.com/reviews/24137675/snufkin-melody-of-moominvalley-review-nintendo-switch-pc
Oh hell yeah I'm trying this out
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 29 April 2024 09:50 (one year ago)
Hadn’t realized that NYRB had recently reprinted Sun City.
― JoeStork, Friday, 21 March 2025 02:00 (nine months ago)
Hadn't heard of that one, gotta check it out.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 21 March 2025 09:58 (nine months ago)
Just along from my dentist, on Brecknock Road, there's this mysterious shop. No-one ever goes on and out of it, the curtains are always drawn and you can't see into it... and this image tag almost certainly won't work...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7a6sZxN4K9dJcG5e6
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 21 March 2025 10:14 (nine months ago)
... see what I mean?
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 21 March 2025 10:15 (nine months ago)
This is the only image I can find of it, it's on the right. Apparently it's a "Moomin warehouse".
https://lid.zoocdn.com/1024/768/83f2ec5011d29703d16cedff2608c6c8bdf9ce5b.jpg
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 21 March 2025 10:20 (nine months ago)
maybe it's the storage facillity for "sort of", which is the little independent publishers for jansson's work and a handful of others (their registered UK office is not in brecknock road)
seems like an expensive location for storage tho -- plus why give it a shopfront look? less likely tyo be broken into? maybe it's where the hattifattners operate their worldwide moneylaundering and crypto schemes from
― mark s, Friday, 21 March 2025 10:54 (nine months ago)
it's for salehttps://www.drivers.co.uk/property-details/rps_drv-DAN220678/london/camden/brecknock-road
― StanM, Friday, 21 March 2025 11:00 (nine months ago)
fattnercoin stocks tumbling
― mark s, Friday, 21 March 2025 11:06 (nine months ago)
The shop beside it is for sale not the Moomin shop.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 21 March 2025 11:36 (nine months ago)
undefeated
https://www.littlecraftplace.com/cdn/shop/files/MoominHattifattenerRubberStamp.jpg
― mark s, Friday, 21 March 2025 11:39 (nine months ago)
I ain't gonna read Sun City.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 March 2025 12:33 (nine months ago)