Finally, A Job Interview!

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Being unemployed is a bitch....but then, who doesn't know that?

Hopefully, my status will elevate to just 'pretty, sarcastic and educated' after Thursday: this ad in CareerBuilder last week specified they wanted a 'computer literate person' to work for a tech company doing MS Access and Data Entry. Since I believed FL to be a job wasteland, I was shocked that they called me the next day and asked for an interview.

So, come Thursday, I'm away to the place in my suit and trainers (proper shoes in backpack), looking as confident as possible. As I am currently in a state where "free will" means that the employers usually have the upper hand, I am doing my best to remain philosophical.

Any last-minute tips?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 14 July 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

no tips but good luck.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 14 July 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Only pos-vibes, I will send some your way (you have a fax?). Good luck!

Leee (Leee), Monday, 14 July 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

:)

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 14 July 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Got my fingers crossed for you!

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 14 July 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Merci, dears! I'll gladly take all the positive vibes I can get;>

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 14 July 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

fear not! you will dazzle them!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Best of luck, Nichole!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Nichole I am very, very happy to hear this. Bravo. Pleaselet us know the good news Friday ::crossing fingers::

But I do have a last minute tip:

[Based on a humiliating experience two weeks ago that almost made me cry when I got home:] I would suggest, no matter how hard it is for you, do NOT, under any circumstances, mention the fact that you "type with one hand" even if you DO really type with one hand.

I would just *not* recommend it.

Vic (Vic), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I would just *not* recommend it.

Gotcha, Vic. Guess I better not mention that I can type with my toes, too...;>

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Also I realized I do have some practical advice, though I'm sure you're already hep to it: ask lots of piercing questions about them, which of course requires that you do some research & thinking into the business.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I would second that. Leee is so OTM.

Vic (Vic), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

go go go nichole!

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Also I realized I do have some practical advice, though I'm sure you're already hep to it: ask lots of piercing questions about them, which of course requires that you do some research & thinking into the business.

As this would make sense, I've been searching for any info about the company; no luck, thus far. Still, I go on...and refresh my knowledge on Access.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Access = one of the programs I never install when I put Office on my comp.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Had to. I was taking a course in it, a couple of years back.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Good luck there kid! I have an interview on Wednesday morning and no clue either. Blah.And no idea what to wear. ARGH.

Sarah (starry), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Ta, Starry! Try a plain, black suit? Boring, but interview practices demand it.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I have this interview advice document at home, mostly gives the oft-asked questions the interviewer will ask, which of course you'll be figuring responses to. Remind me to email it.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Will do so, tomorrow...

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The one thing I learned from my last round of interviews was that a confident, honest answer beats a shakey, try-to-say-what-they-wanna-hear answer. (Also, be patient: I just got an offer today for an interview I did 3 months ago.)

bnw (bnw), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Knock 'em dead, kid.

My own advice: when they ask what sort of challenges you'd expect if they hired you, DON'T say "gettin up for 9 in the morning". Even confidently. The try-to-say-what-they-wanna-hear answer is the way to go there.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

hahah I deleted it whoops. An omen vis-a-vis my own career prospects.

As a way of making up, some more advice.

One question that you can ask may be to inquire about promotion w/in the company, i.e. "Are there career advancement opportunities in this company?" One, that shows them that you have ambition and confidence. Two, and I may be way off base here, I think some companies are promoting their own workers to management positions rather than hiring outside managers.

Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

It is a weird psychological trick, but I swear it works. When you first walk into the room before you can make physical contact with the obligatory handshake, look the interviewer in the eye, smile, and say to yourself silently: I am a good person and so are you, I am very happy to see you.

In that moment you will make the first impression and the trick will shift your kinaesthetics enough to subconsciously effect the interviewer's perception of you.

Don't take my word for it, do this trick with everyone you have to make verbal contact with for the next 48 hours. Pay attention and see if people respond to you differently. I bet they will.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

best of luck, Nichole!

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"ask lots of piercing questions about them" hmmm, i asked the Editor in Chief of the Oxford English Dictionary, whether, in effect, he thought his job was pointless.

i didn't get the job.

maybe be wary of how piercing you can be. don't pierce their ego.
this is obvious to all except me 4 months ago.

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Cool! Good luck, etc. etc. etc.

The trick I've found best for doing well at job interviews is to consume a large amount of caffeine beforehand, so that you seem enthusiastic and energetic during the interview.

(After you've got the job, I slip back to being a joyless slacker.)

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice one Nick! I'm sure you'll blow them away (and not in the on your knees sense, though it's always a useful back-up to have). Congratulations :)

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

p.s. it's interesting that in these times even getting an interview is a thing worthy of congratulations. Where have the jobs for life gone?

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

If someone offered you one, would you take it?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

It was a rhetorical question :) But yes, assuming it was senior enough and I was sure it was what I wanted. I'd love to be in my mum's situation, owning her own company, absolutely at the top of her profession, and intending to die while still negotiating deals.

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Good luck, hope your job interview goes better than mine did.

Lars (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to interrupt these well-wishes for Nichole to ask Vic what he does with his other hand while typing, but suddenly that seemed like a bad idea.

So, good luck, Nichole!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

From someone who's done a lot of job interviews I would echo above that your attitude is going to be much more important than your job skills. Your motivation to do a complete and timely job and your ability to work effectively with others will be at the top of the list. They'll probably ask some general Access questions to ensure that you know what you're talking about (stuff you can't fake through) but after that I wouldn't expect too many technical questions. So don't over-prepare on the tech stuff.

My technique when going into an interview would be to ask myself difficult questions and answer them verbally a few times to get a good spiel going. Having an answer prepared really makes the difference. Questions like "tell me about a successful team project you were involved in" or "how would you prioritize three different tasks" or "have you ever had to deal with a difficult co-worker." Google searches will pull up a litany of questions like these.

Finally, about half the time you do an interview you'll be able to create some sort of personal connection and actually have a conversation instead of a question:answer session with the questioner in complete control. That should be your goal, to get some sort of control in the conversation. But don't try to force it, many managers don't have very good interviewing skills and if you can't guide them to a conversation just do your best to professionally answer their questions.

Good luck!

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

If there is a specification, study it: they might well try to hit all the elements in it with questions, so think of good examples of how you meet their criteria.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to interrupt these well-wishes for Nichole to ask Vic what he does with his other hand while typing, but suddenly that seemed like a bad idea.

Heavens, Dan! Everyone picks their nose. I mean, this is obviously what you meant, right? ;-)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

All your advice is well taken and much common sense, guys. Cheers! I'll try to ward off slacker-heaven til afterward.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

nine years pass...

i had a second interview over a week ago for a job i really want. at the end of the interview they said they'd let me know by that friday.

but then they rang me after work the next day and left a message at short notice saying they were "in the area" and would i like to meet them for a drink that very evening and to discuss the role a bit more. by the time i got to sort myself out and ring them back, they said they had to dash off to a client meeting, so we couldn't meet up. the interviewer said he'd let me know what was happening this week.

i wrote an email thanking them and saying it's a shame we didn't get to meet up.

that was last Thursday and it's Thursday now and i haven't heard a thing. should i call them back? part of me thinks it would show i'm keen, the other thinks it might appear i'm hassling them, and then the other part is thinking if they're going to ring me and ask me to rush over to them at short notice and then wait a whole week without any response at all, is this how they're going to treat me if i work for them?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

they're not going to not tell you if you've got the job, but at the same time for your own peace of mind you probably should get some more info one way or another.

you're right to be circumspect too, really, i'd say this kind of thing is a bad omen. a few years back i was down to a second interview for a job i really wanted, and the interviews were v informal, eg a few pints with the first guy and then coffee for a second interview, had a good long chat and they said it was me v one other guy and they'd let me know.

never heard a thing, emailed about 2 weeks later and they were like "oh yeah sorry we went for the other guy". crazily rude, but it happens.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

i'll phone them at lunch. it's likely they've been busy or someone's been called away, but i'm still a bit perturbed by this whole carrot-dangling "come and meet us now now now, oh no sorry" and then nothing.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

girl problems thread

bill paxman (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

they like you, but not as someone to give a job to

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Although a month ago I would've been 'meh' about the prospect of working at the Apple Store (and even more than 'meh' in the broader context of, y'know, having a college degree), I'm really excited now (after a solid month of complete silence from every job I've applied to) just knowing that I'm going to be receiving a phone call of indeterminate nature from the Apple Store soon. How our expectations have fallen when "At least it isn't swabbing diarrhea off bathroom walls!" becomes a thrilling prospect.

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

^^

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

i have received my fair share of "thanks but no thanks" emails from completely horrible, potentially degrading jobs that are more or less way beneath my skill level in the last four weeks. i'd like to think it's because i'm overqualified. then i weep and eat a pint of ice cream with gin mixed directly into the pint.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

I've been turned down for being "overqualified" too, as if being hired is a charitable act.

What is the idea behind "overqualified", if it's something you could use to your benefit and you don't mind doing it?

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

generally i think they think/worry you're gonna quit as soon as something better comes along.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

because, you know, operating a cash register is a viable career path in 2012, rather than a temporary solution to hemorrhaging money, and you should commit yourself to the company indefinitely, what are you ABOVE this kinda work or something, etc.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

btw i have nothing but respect for the retail employees of the world and the endless shit slung at them daily.

i would also swab bathroom walls for a paycheck at this point.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

done both fwiw, retail ftw

bill paxman (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

you slung shit at the bathroom wall which you then cleaned up?

乒乓, Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

maybe the zoo is hiring come to think of it.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

it's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

The thing about retail is, in my experience, they aren't picky about "overqualifications". Also some register jobs you can work your way up. I mean, there have been times when I needed the extra money.

Restaurants turned me down cold, what hurt most were temp office jobs. It just seemed like, "we don't want you working here, you might give us lip. Someone with less qualifications might put up with our b.s.."

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

So I rang them, no one was in so I left a message. Got an email saying I hadn't got through.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

what a load of big hairy rotten cobblers.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

The only straight-up rejections I've received (as opposed to the Wall of Perpetual Silence) were for Macy's seasonal jobs, which I figured they would've likely been trolling the streets for warm bodies to fill. So that felt pretty solid.

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure assurances that a place will be hiring again in January basically work as cash vouchers with most landlords and businesses, right? Just wanna make sure I don't continue my regimen of daily panic attacks without good reason to do so.

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)


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