Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

I've been nagged by the thought that it actually was the real Marilyn Manson that I saw a few weeks ago geekily going to the purolator courier in the Atrium on Bay (snootyish office/shopping complex in downtown T.O.)because that's probably the last place on earth that I would expect such a celebrity sighting to happen, so I dismissed out of hand as an arrestingly casual lookalike in a long black coat, yet then I was thinking that all that nega-evidence adds up to it probably being the real Marilyn. anyway...

I love the part in tonight's episode where Kramer is dressed like a pimp. I wish I had a walking stick.

The best was in a later episode where they BROUGHT THE DANCE back. It was only two seconds, but I was practically incontinent.

Anyone who catches the dancing episode on tape for me (NTSC, please) will be my BEST FRIEND 4-EVA.

Two nights ago me and Ramon were sitting in a bar thinking about what we could do to make ourselves look more like pimps/rapists, and his first suggestion was we could walk with a limp, but I said fuck that, I've got a barrel (literally) full of canes (I kid you not). So expect the Clockwork Orange look next time you see us, minus the fake eyebrows and makeup and girly shit.

Hey, I don't think I've seen the reprise. There's a reason to live! Assume everyone has seen the reference at How To Dance Properly

Otherwise, what Mitch said.

Any hot chicks out there want to get bisy just let me know. I got it all . They call me "the Mutt" and with all that implies. And that ain't dirt in my eye.

Larry

I thought this said "...and with all my nipples". I have no clue why or what that could possibly imply but that's much better than what that said.

The Simpsons, conversely, are classic.

Also, Jerry's millions got him that 17 y.o. honey (who ended up dumping his ass, btw). Not the trainers. No way was it the trainers. Please god tell me it wasn't the trainers.

Elaine had the best hair ever in the later series.

Anyway, I want to hate this show, it's the type of cultural phenomenon that normally annoys me, but every time I stumble across a rerun I end up watching it and having some good laffs. Last night I saw the one where Elaine dates a mover but breaks up with him because of his stance on abortion. And George invites himself over to a family's house to watch their rented copy of Breakfast at Tiffany's because he didn't read the book for his study group. It was funny. I'll say classic.

The best thing about Susan was Warren Frost and Grace Zabriskie playing her parents

one strange thing I just remembered was that Elaine's dad was like some gruff Russian war hero, the scene where Jerry and George try to interact with him is great, is it just me or was that never brought up again

"Dear Henry, last night with you was bliss. I fear my.. orgasm has left me a cripple. I don't how how I shall ever get back to work...I love you madly. John.

P.S. Loved the cabin."

Xp you're right, bc Lawrence Tierney was such a nightmare on set they wrote the character off

haha really??

“he’s the master of the house”

IMDb:

When he guest-starred on the Seinfeld (1989) episode The Jacket (1991) as Elaine's father, he scared the cast so badly that they never had him back on. He stole a butcher knife from Jerry Seinfeld's TV kitchen and hid it under his jacket. When Seinfeld undauntedly confronted him about it (much to the dismay of the entire cast), Tierney pretended that he was going to use the knife as a gag in reference to the movie Psycho (1960) during the episode and quickly returned it.

Haha that wasn't the half of it with Tierney:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Tierney#Off-screen_troubles

Yeah, Jason Alexander has been quoted as saying that Tierney x his character, as played and written(based on novelist RichardRevolution Raods Yates, Dad of show producer/writer Andrea Yates, according to interviews and pix in an Inside Seinfeld-type book I skimmed) was antithetical to EVERYBODY else on and behind the show, would have made a fucking awesome recurring character.

Sorry: Richard Revolutionary Road Yates, I meant.
(And yeah Susan's parents were awesome---also thinking of Mad Men Pete's parents, esp in "Old Amsterdam" ep)

I agree - I'm not surprised they fired him and he would've been a great recurring character. The one appearance alone set up so much that was left unexamined (like Elaine's mother who was presumably divorced from him). Damn shame.

Jason totally agrees, if I didn't make that clear!

Mea culpa.

(Maybe Julia Louis-Dreyfus talked some sense into him?)

Holy shit at that Lawrence Tierney wiki entry. Had no idea that guy was such a maniac

He basically was his character in Reservoir Dogs

Jerry Seinfeld angrily criticizes his children’s old private school for offering ‘distressed’ students day off after election, which he says is why he transferred them to another school.

He's this far from telling Michael Richards to hold my beer, isn't he?

Not really. I mean no. Or maybe in what way? Or what you on about because nah.

LOL at referring to Jerry Seinfeld as "The Seinfeld alum"

Mary Tyler Moore, star of The Mary Tyler Moore show,

Valuable new poster / sock “business”

Jerry Seinfeld concerned that his plan to shelter his kids is sheltering them too much

Must be hard to find a school when you have a bazillion dollars

what is the deal with school

I am so happy that I am not one of Jerry Seinfeld's children. What a horrible life to have to lead

I'm one of Jerry Seinfeld's children.

Son of Seinfeld

What if Seinfeld starred Michael Madson and James Spader...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTpqwjv615U

that pilot invents seinfeld AND reservoir dogs at the very same time.

jerry and paul must have been separated at birth. they are so close. paul was so fast! i forgot his quickness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed8z5vINHuE

I do not remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucM7ANXARc

oh wait nevermind. I need to eat lunch.

"A BIIIIG salad!"

Origin of Christmas Nipple---longsplains, so I'll lift the gist:

"The Pick" is based on a real-life incident. Reality is the formation for many Seinfeld episodes, and the world around it...So it should really come as no surprise that what happened to Elaine also happened to a Seinfeld writer. Marc Jaffe, who began working on Seinfeld in the very first season, told the story in 2021 on Seinfeld - This Podcast Is Making Me Thirty, about what happened to cause him to pitch the idea for "The Pick." Jaffe's brother-in-law was taking pictures on Christmas morning with his one-year-old daughter in front of the fireplace. It resulted in a nice looking photo except for one flaw. The guy's robe wasn't tied correctly, which led to him accidentally exposing himself in the photo. "The stocking was hung," as Jaffe put it. He sent it out to his entire family, but it was Jaffe's wife who finally noticed the wardrobe malfunction.
...Jaffe then pitched what had happened to Larry David, but that created an obstacle. Jaffe told the podcast, "It was gonna be too much if it was Jerry in that kind of situation for network television," so they gave the idea to Elaine's character instead and made it her nipple. There were some weird '90s network TV rules, with it not being okay to have a man accidentally expose his member, but it was acceptable for a woman to unknowingly expose her nipple.

Been re-watching this, kind of bouncing around between seasons. It’s kind of wild how dark the show here and there.

Kramer goes to LA and meets an aspiring actress and she winds up getting killed by a serial killer and because she has Kramer’s script “on her person” he winds up getting pulled in by the cops.

Elaine has this whole arc of episodes where she’s dating a creepy psychiatrist and that leads right into her dating Crazy Joe Davola. It’s a miracle those episodes aren’t even creepier, but I think that’s due to JLD’s performance.

I've never really got the Crazy Joe Davola storyline -- it seems like he gets talked about more than he is actually on screen.

season 4 is the GOAT but the kramer in LA episodes are the weirdest and most incongruent in the whole show

I think I've mentioned this before but the Crazy Joe Davola actor was perhaps a little too good at his role, it feels like he's from another show entirely. tbh I've also felt that way about Susan, she's got sort of that Patricia Heaton vibe to her, good actress but maybe not right for this show

I rewatched them recently because they still felt so unfamiliar and surprising in the context of the Seinverse

I think Todd Phillips stole the story arc for Joker from the Crazy Joe episodes. I don’t actually know how many episodes he was in, but I think it was three at most.

Yesterday I proclaimed that "I'm Frank Costanza's lawyer!" might be, for me, the funniest single line in scripted TV comedy

cosign

really speaks to how good this show was at recognizing the humor in any given situation, this is where they go above and beyond imo

Crazy Joe Davola storyline is the best. Sic semper tyrannis!

It’s hard to narrow down the funniest lines for me, but “I go out for a quart of milk. I come home to my son treating his body like it was an amusement park” is up there.

Stephen McHattie as the creepy psychiatrist boyfriend “svenjooli” was also arguably too good a performance as a domineering mentally abusive type. He was also so good as one of the two spree killers at the beginning of a history of violence.

funniest moment to me is probably when Jerry is in the confessional booth (to complain about Tim Whatley making Jewish jokes) and at the end George just randomly pops in and says "Jerry I gotta talk to you"

I go out for a quart of milk. I come home to my son treating his body like it was an amusement park

this line is so hilarious on it's own but her delivery is next level.

Favorite line is Elaine's "IT'S VEGETABLE LASAGNA"

"More money... so, that's your cousin!"

lol, I'd forgotten about Cousin Jeffrey's "edible foliage tour" of Central Park.

I do like that "Curb Your Enthusiasm" has, in addition to being a great show on its own, caused me to view Seinfeld from a new perspective of heightened appreciation, and I already loved it to begin with