Clare Short as Barbara Stanwyck in Cattle Queen Of Montana.
(Does anyone else make the mistake of typing ilmdb?)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)
well, i think at our unconscious levels morality is (somewhat) shaped — or shd that be revealed — by what we consider a satisfactory outcome in a story (which is i shd stress a good deal more subtle than Man In White Hat Wins, Baddies Defeated Hurrah!!) (eg a satisfactory non-obvious outcome may actually be "clear room left for sequel so we get to see more of revenant baddie who we secretly prefer to wooden white-hat")
morality IS our "sense of an ending", and books and films and TV which are narrative-based are (among other things) on-going arguments abt what constitutes a "happy" ending
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Forensics do not care for motive.
Hmm, I need much thought on this grand theory Mark - I'm not sure it takes into account escapism or the fact that we are aware thatthe fictional world does not operate like the real world hence and pleasure at watching morality playing itself out are themselves couched in this unreality. Whilst I'd agree fiction has a role in helping provide our moral framework, observation of real life - immersion in actual situations inform it a lot more.
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)
Escapism = reaching towards the realm of what should be, so as to convict what is.
Grand Theory = as usual the "Buffy Theory of Everything" btw except I am right THIS SECOND in the miggle of finishing the first draft of my mini-essay on Tolkien's "On Fairy-Stories", so am channeling Tolk a bit more directly and unquestioningly than usual possibly.
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)
20th Century Fox presents... a Robin Carmody production:
MAJOR: THE MOVIE - an all action blockbuster!
Starring:
BRAD PITT as JohnJENNIFER LOPEZ as NormaTINA TURNER as the ghost of Empress ThatcherALAN RICKMAN as the Bastard PortilloJACK NICHOLSON as the Evil Senator BlairMARK WALHBERG as Bill 'Dirk Diggler' Clintonand of course, LEONARDO DiCAPRIO as John's hapless sidekick 'Norm' LaMonte.
As the opening scene begins with the funeral pyre of the late Empress Thatcher being blasted off into space, the new Emporer Major already faces a stiff military challenge to his leadership from the Evil Senator Blair.
When Blair (Nicholson) crashes through the door of the palace of Number 10, cackling "heeeeeeere's Tony!", can the valiant Major rouse his battered and treacherous forces to victory?
Director Carmody, fresh from the triple-Oscar-winning 'Scargill: The Musical' lends his typical directorial hand, so expect plenty of car chases, spectacular explosions and endless references to the Conservative Party in 1912, the post-war decline of the Liberals, the electoral constituency of Chipping Sodbury and many other priceless nuggets of political knowledge.
"Outstanding! I loved every minute of it!" - Paul Ross, News of the World.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)
I think Kenneth Clarke would run the local pub.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)
Of course if we use a soap opera model then there is no grand resolution (explain the pop of soap operas?) End of fiction as death.
(If this is the same old Buffy Theory of everythign I think seasons 6 and 7 have undermined it. My Xander theory of Buffy I fear no longer holds).
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)