Least Rockist Video Game

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mark says it's pong but i disagree

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Definitely not Frogger.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

It's probably that one that Peter Gabriel designed. It's all about emotion and there are no winners or losers.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Barbie Pet Rescue

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

haha you start it up and immediately you get the following "it is a testament to your spiritual creativity that you chose to participate. game continues... " — except that it then shuts down

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

ans = BLOBBO!! i forgot that

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Quake.

I'm the biggest fucking rockist of video games on the planet. I hate fucking 3D engines disguised as games. I'm gonna start my own video game review site for people who like real video games like Black and White, or Tetris.

PIXELFORKMEDIA.COM!

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mayhem64.co.uk/peanut_butter_panic.jpg
http://www.mayhem64.co.uk/cbs.htm

"An arcade game for children, to teach them the art of co-operation and resources. Control the two creatures to capture the stars zooming overhead and turn them into peanut butter sandwiches. Jumping makes them tired so eating the sandwiches gives them energy. And so it goes on."

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

(DB the relaunched Freaky Trigger will be looking for videogame write-ups.

Just sayin' like.)

The Guardian today had some infographic about girl gamers and it said "boys play more video games but girls play more computer games" - what can this mean??

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.nanaon-sha.com/products/images/parappa-u.jpg

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Peanut Butter Panic sounds like it's a game about my dad.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Peanut Butter Panic was so much fun!! you had a big see-saw at the bottom, and you had to launch your partner skyward to collect peanut butter sandwich makins. The more you jumped the skinnier you got, and the higher your partner could launch you. But if you both jumped a lot then neither of you had enough weight to launch the other, so one of you would have to make the decision to scarf some sammiches you'd just been collecting.....

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmmm, Speedball 2?

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Rez. A game so unrockist, it's actually better to watch than play. If fact, a game so unrockist, it has a mode with no play, just watch and interact.

Tom: it means that more PC games are online, with interacting and things like that. Also the best version of The Sims is for PC.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

but nickalicious PaRappa demands that you be on the beat --> it discriminates against Julio, I mean free jazz

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The problem with the rockist/video game analogy is that we haven't quite reached the disco era of video games yet, and -- more importantly -- the quasi-homophobic backlash thereof. I'm assuming Dance Dance Revolution or similar prototypes are just starting the disco era of games.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

So are games on a PC not videogames?

What's the generic term for all games then?

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark have you ever played Vib Ribbon?

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Do NOT mention Dance Dance REvolution around me.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"relationship tumors"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom I will write about video games!!

I don't know what is not rockist but I have such an urge to try and get a hold of Sam and Max hit the road or Monkey Island.

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Video games = the generic term; video games not on PC's = console games

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 24 July 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Has anyone ever played Snafu? That's totally not rockist at all and it had a weird booobooobooooop electro soundtrack. Except Intellivision is kind of indie??

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The most rockist video game is Tetris. So what game is least like Tetris?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha ally wait til you see the sequel to dance dance revolution!! one of my friends is working on it

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i encountered vib ribbon at yr house in oval, tom and starry

did i play? i forget: i am rubbish at all such things

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Tetris is kind of krautrock.

Please don't tell me there is a sequel. God, poor Otis.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd probably use Computer Games for all-games, but Video Games is specific to the consoles. I don't have a dictionary to point you at, I'm afraid.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

bust a move

― kephm, Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the exact opposite of Tetris is AstroGrover btw.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Vib Ribbon is admirably anti-rockist re. music but may itself be rockist. WHAT A CONUNDRUM!

(I think I've lost my copy though - Sarah there aren't two kicking around your new place are there?)

Most rockist is Asteroids, I'd say.

Do proper videogames have endings (where you win) or not?

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, seriously, it's AstroGrover. You do math problems. If you get the math problems right, Grover comes out dressed as an astronaut and DISCO DANCES FOR FIVE MINUTES then you have to do more math. If you get them wrong, he looks at you and frowns and shakes his head with TOTAL DISGUST.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't there like 7 DDR sequels already? Starry to thread (except she is on thread!)!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I am glad Ally is not near me. DDR is great. They've got rid of all the machines with Boom Boom Dollar apart from one in Acton round here though. The new thing is Para Para Paradise, but it sucks that it's single player only and therefore less fun than messing around on DDR.

I don't recall you playing Vib Ribbon Mark.

OH GOD MUST PLAY VIB RIBBON TO THE DARKNESS!!

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

DDR story:

My exboyfriend, who is one of my best friend's roommates, quit his proper job to wear a tracksuit and become a "professional Dance Dance Revolution player". I have no idea how this is going but he's in France now and I hope to god he's not torturing the French with this.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Where do those Japanese dating sims fit on this continuum?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Harvest Moon is the most anti-rockist game.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom I didn't even know you had a copy of Vib Ribbon! There's only one copy here in any case.

There are a zillion DDR releases and ripoffs in Japan, two DDR arcade machine versions, 2 ps1 releases (Euromix and Party Edition) and 1 ps2 edition and not forgetting the disney rip offs. And then you get your other Bemani games as well so it's rythm action tastic.

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

good god man, no wonder kids today can't do math!! someone has to do a little dance for you when you finish a math problem? can you imagine EXPECTING a disco dancing grover to show up when you finish your algebra assignment?!!

kids these days, i swear.

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my mom still has AstroGrover, too.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Best Educational Game is a different thread. My vote goes for Henri le Removal Man on the BBC. Oh and the primitive Civ game that was supposed to teach us about CASTLES and FORTS and MOATS in history.

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh ooh civ was the best!! worst: oregon trail (i always got cholera)

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

best educational game: gazza's super soccer on the C64.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha I would purposely make all my people die and get cholera and drown and shit like that in Oregon Trail! Death was the only good part of that game!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

is there a donner party option?

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Remind me never to go on a road trip with Ally. Ever.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

What, you've never been tempted to drive your car through a clearly too-deep river just to see if you can make it without putting it on a raft or using the bridge 40 ft down? Come on.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

myst - rockist or not?

most rockist = net hack

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn right. Myst is the unrockist, as it annoyed everyone in 'the industry'. Though this means second place goes to Deer Hunter. and The Sims again.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Fantasy World Dizzy!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

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haha you get points based on how on-key you are and how well you keep up with the rhythm of the song you're singing.

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm assuming the most rockist of video games are first-person shooters and the old arcade top-down shmups? Where reflexes and performance are the only thing that matters and everything is all graphics graphics graphics? The other major rockist games would have to be chess and flight simulators I suppose. "This has the most realistic engine out there! You can fly every commercial airframe in history!" GAH UGH. Also DDR is rockist as fuck, it's hardly different from a shmup except you get to look REALLY STUPID while playing. Oh and fighting games - Marvel Vs. Capcom, Street Fighter, MK all come to mind as being horribly rockist. Would the Ultima series count as the most rockist of RPGs?

I'm going to have to vote Bubble Bobble as one of the least rockist games. I don't know too many others I could really name off the top of my head.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 24 July 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Donut bitch: I think we have to have the disco backlash before we can identify the disco. Or at least that's always the signficance disco's had for me: it's the music that everyone loved except those that wrote the history books. What were _you_ thinking of?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 24 July 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Sonic the Hedgehog twee or emocore?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Zaxxon may be the pinnacle oldschool rockist game. That mock-3D angle was so prog.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar: You're right, the graphics "feel the quality" is important. Which probably makes Quake 3 the rockistest game.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

WHAT ABOUT SONIC? That's the only game I've ever defeated.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

holy shit! Zaxxon! good god man, back in the fucking day. i had that on my ColecoVision!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Sonic isn't rockist, Ally. It's all ok. I'd explain but I really can't be arsed when James Hewitt is talking about caviar...

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Sonic is a tough call. I would say twee, but he gets all hardcore when he rolls into a ball and speeds up like a fucking maniac. I would say he's more 'gabba-twee.'

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Gabba-twee!!! Awesome.

I'm pretty sure this is not rock:

http://gamingworldx.com/features/images/nes2.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Mario 2 had no score and no time limit!

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, Mario was rock, once. But that raccoon tail made him totally unable to rock. See, Super Mario 3 is un-rock for the same reason that Back to the Future III was totally un-rock. Super Mario 2, though, was the shiznit.

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

zaxxon's forced-perspective and "death from above" thing is pretty rockist but for stright-up symbolism it's hard to compete w/ Star Castle - "destroy the outer layers to reach the power inside"

http://www.sultan-zonk.de/software/arcade/pics/starcastle_preview.gif

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

MUST... REACH... INNER... CIRCLE!!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.digitpress.com/dpsightz/arcade/gyruss.png

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd forgotten how much I loved mario 2. it was weirdly melancholy somehow.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.ataritimes.com/arcade/images/tempest.gif

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Shit man, if you wanna talk about weirdly melancholy, talk about Marble Madness. God, I've never played a game more drenched in pathos than Marble Madness. It was rockist as fuck, but damn if its brutal hard geometries didn't make me weep. It was kind of like the Wire '154' of videogames.

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"Paperboy" may qualify. I mean what other video game had an addictive cowbell-driven funk anthem and allowed you to smash punk rockers with newspapers?

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

and "realistic" controls

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, I loved smashing old people and skaters with newspapers, it was the highlight of my childhood.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

surely least rockist = most twee?
well then, you need My Summer Vacation 2
http://www.gamers.com/game/1179121/previews
collect beetles! make friends! go fishing!
if you can be arsed!

― joni, Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

geeta you are otm. they should have just called it "roll the rock up the hill."

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

sisyphus: "rockist"

HOWEVAH in MM you are the playing field, not the ball!! i can't think of another game like that. u r the caregiver, your mission is to AVOID destroying anything!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Geeta on Marble Madness = an inexpressible joy. It was a beautiful, beautiful game. And it was very sad.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/screens/J/vJourney.png

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 July 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

As far as melancholy goes, my pick is Zelda: Majora's Mask. A really very affecting meditation on time, youth, games, death... Love it.

― Prude (Prude), Thursday, 24 July 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Zelda knockoff Alundra for the PlayStation had a horrifically depressing plot whereby demons attacked the town every night, and like five or six people died died during the course of the game.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 24 July 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Only five or six? That is depressing.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

in Terranigma for the SNES like the entire cast of characters incl. all the goofy extras winds up dead. That shit made me fucking MOROSE.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 24 July 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

prog is not rockist you various mentalists

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 24 July 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Arrrgh, I haven't seen such blatant malignment of the term "rockist" since... oh, hell, the last time it was used on ILM. JESUS F'IN MONTE CHRISTO!

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 24 July 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

its defn has got WAY out of wack since i stopped getting into argts abt it, DB

also geeta slightly misstates what i said which is that karaoke revolution is ROCKIST ABT MELODY (ie gives you points for sticking to the original tune when in fact karaoke totally allows you to invent yr own better one) (ditto words, flow, sense of pitch, capacity to incite frenzied cross-class hobnobbing etc)

= [xx] values how well you stick to a pre-determined template which many wd argue is at odds w.the most fun to be had from [xx]

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 24 July 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

whinging over what rockist means is obv. v. mentalist*lt;/ilx0rbot>

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 July 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

most rockist = net hack

Nooo! I am a totally rockist video gamer then. :(

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Cause I ascended w/o cheating

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait, bragging about ascending in NH on an internet bulletin board is THE GEEKIEST THING ON EARTH. sorry.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

is pinball jump blues, then?

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

how does Gitaroo Man fit into all this?

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 8 August 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Minesweeper is sadcore

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 8 August 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

pong is surely one of the most rockist of games? i mean.. it's gameplay for the sake of gameplay!!!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

least rockist.. Phantasmagoria? 7 CDs, no gameplay?

http://www.mobygames.com/game/view_review/reviewerId,26574/gameId,1164/platformId,2/

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely Animal Crossing.

― It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Katamari Damacy?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the Barbie games released at the dawn of the home computing age circa 1982, which just consisted of Barbie driving a car, putting on a hat, and the game ending.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What about Grand Theft Auto? Adored by both the purchasing public and critics, reviled by family-values types. Perhaps it's the video game Prince.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It is sad that I was going to link Space Channel 5 to this thread because I already did so the first time around.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Where do the Mary Kate & Olsen games fit into all this?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

those are definitely the least rockist

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

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