adult children of divorce

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so, my parents are getting divorced, apparently

now, this is my mother and my stepfather, who, as some may know, is for all intents and purposes "my father", as my birth father is a shithead who i havent had any contact with in about seven years (jesus...) and who i had minimal contact with before.

strangely, i am unmoved by the whole scenario, perhaps because it was brewing for so long.

mostly i am just worried about what - if anything - my relationship with my stepfather will be like if this does come to pass. he's a very admirable man in some ways: he spent a good chunk of his adult life taking care and providing for kids who weren't his. but we've never been what you could call "close"...basically we don't know each other at all. he's the quintessential "dad", ala the wonder years - sports, beer, his job - and i'm, well, me. i can't possibly imagine maintaining any sort of relationship with him, and yet i can't shake the fact that cutting him out of my life would be, well, wrong

really, like i said, i'm not "upset", so no one needs to come in and do all that "*hugs*" bullshit, okay, please? mostly i just want to hear from people who might have once been in a similar situation or at least had their parents divorce as adults.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

p.s. there is nothing grosser than hearing hints dropped about your fathers waning libido and yr mothers, uh, urges

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

also, this is hardly "pressing", all in the abstract...just starin at the walls here

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

My dad and stepmother divorced a few years ago. It was weird - she'd been around since I was about 8, and I wasn't sure what to do. I ended up just calling her one day and saying, 'look, you were my other mom for almost 20 years - let's not lose contact' and she agreed. It kinda tapered off after she re-married - I don't hear from her as often now, but she's still part of my life.

I say even if you aren't that close, do keep in touch - he's a part of your life and your memories - one day you might be glad he's around, if only peripherally.

luna (luna.c), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

My parents didn't divorce when I was an adult, so I'm not coming from that perspective (and neither of them remarried until I'd moved out, so I have no step-parent experience, either), but:

can't possibly imagine maintaining any sort of relationship with him, and yet i can't shake the fact that cutting him out of my life would be, well, wrong

If he's the Wonder Years kind of guy, he might not assume you'll want to stay in touch with him, so even though you may not be able to go all emo and be like "friends forever, bracelet buddy!", you might want to make it clear that you don't intend to cut him out, and -- since you're not distressed about the divorce itself -- don't think he's an evil troll or anything, and so on. By whatever means are appropriate for however things are between you two. Hell, I even had to do that with my parents, and they divorced when I was in 8th grade, so.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

My parents divorced...ten years ago? I honestly don't remember. (I'm 23 now.) As for you, my step-father has taken on the role of "father" for me, despite biology. My father is not a bad man, though. Since the divorce, I've grown closer to him while my sister has pretty much disowned him. He easily falls prety to inertia. I've made a conscious effort to stay close to him while my sister has made a conscious effort to push him away. He could (and probably should) make an effort to mend fences with my sister, since she's clearly not going to make the effort herself, but he doesn't, either out of feeling that it's useless or out of plain fear.
I'd say, if you sincerely want to maintain a relationship with your father, make the effort. Call, send him the occasional email (or letter, depending on how technologically savvy he is). Little things like that can make a big difference.

Prude (Prude), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it might be cool if you guys can have a really frank discussion about how you both feel, even though it might be painful - especially if there is too much difference between your attitudes. you know, something along the lines of "hey dad, sorry you guys are going through this stuff, and i'm concerned about how it will effect our relationship. i already feel like i don't know you that well, and i might now see you even less, and sometimes i think that's OK, that maybe we can go in our own directions, but i also feel guilty about that"

i wish i had the nerve to have such a conversation with my father, though our situation is kind of different

ron (ron), Friday, 25 July 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

when my mom and her boyfriend (who had lived with us for a few years, taught me how to shave and drive a stick, etc.) split up, it wasn't on great terms--he dumped my mom for his high school sweetheart whom he re-met at his reunion, awwwww--so I didn't feel obligated to do anything; hell, dude dumped my momz! plus he was a beardy hunter so no loss. plus I was in college so I didn't have to deal with it really. but I'd still see him around (our small) town during summers, and I'd say hi and all that, but it was mostly awkward.

on the one hand, I didn't like him. on the other hand, he was a really important person in my life and had introduced me to Honky Tonk Heroes and let me keep Playboys we found in hotel rooms on road-trips without telling my mom.

I still feel like I'd like to tell him that I appreciate how hard he tried with us boys, esp. when we'd bug him about being a Vietnam vet or about the semi-stupid stuff he'd say. he was a pretty good guy except for the whole dumping-my-mom thing. but I got into guy-mode really quick about it: I don't care whatever no big deal nevermind I'm aight.

and jess, I feel your pain about this. hugz! < /moron>

Neudonym, Friday, 25 July 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

my parents split up a couple of years ago. My father in particular found this very hard and is still deeply unhappy. The situation is different in that I have always been close to him, so I keep in close contact with him, but I think he very much appreciated my brother (who is not really so close) making an effort to stay in touch. Even though he is sometimes hard to talk to about anything other than his job and the weather.

isadora (isadora), Friday, 25 July 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

just about ALL fathers are hard to talk to about anything except their job and the weather

and I didn't really mean "shave and drive a stick" above, I meant "shave, and also drive a manual transmission automobile". There was no shaving of sticks thank you VERY much.

Neudonym, Friday, 25 July 2003 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

My parents split when I was eighteen. Though I didn't know it at the time, I had a log of anger toward both of them that I carried with me for years and that affected every relationship that I've been in since--boss, friends, girlfriends. I'll just say that you owe it to yourself to thank both of your parents for being there for you, and to try allow to them to continue to be a parent in whatever awkward way they're willing to try to do that. Let them know you love them and let them love you. You can't wait for them to initiate things because they're likely to be just as screwed up about the whole thing as you are. Little things like cards and calls add up over time. People change and relationships can get better than you can imagine. You'll get back a lot more than you give.

dan (dan), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

had a log of anger

I apologize for interrupting a serious thread but I love this typo. Plz. carry on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ynP9CAC3PlsC:www.macscouter.com/img/wb-log.gif

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

my parents and step father are all dead. so i really don't care. if we kept in contact it would probably be scary. oh wait, nobody gives a shit about this. sorry. i'll move on.

doom-e (register), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I should add that though I too was "strangely unmoved" when the divorce happened, I didn't do any of the clever things that I just recommended, stayed righteously pissed off at both parents for twenty years, and paid a big pretty price for it in terms of hating life. But I'm much better now.

dan (dan), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...
I guess my parents are getting divorced. They haven't made it official, but they've been separated for a month and my mom apparently keeps calling my dad and screaming for long periods of time. My sister says my dad came over to her house the other day in really bad shape, and had lost a ton of weight and his hair had gone gray. He said he's been told to start filling out the paperwork. My mom's sister has a bunch of money and so she'll probably be able to actually afford a good lawyer and clean my dad out (even more then she already has). They're making a "quick" little 6-hour drive to Chicago tomorrow to visit with me "for the afternoon". I'm not sure how to interpret that. It seems like they're just going to drop by and tell me in person. I wish we didn't have communication problems. My girlfriend keeps saying "just ask them what's going on" when I'm on the phone with one of them. It seems so stupid that it seems like I can't ask them about it.

Z S, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck with tomorrow, Z S.

My parents' (mom and stepdad) marriage has been circling the drain for 11 years now, with an annual summer "I want a divorce" cycle. Each year it gets a little worse, but they seem to patch things up by the holidays. Neither one behaves in a rational way, and I've ended up telling them that it's their life and not my problem. A divorce would be easier to handle, really, than the current state of things.

On the Selected Shorts program on NPR they once read a story about the parents of a college age girl who were divorcing, and in that time when there's nothing left to say to each other. She called them and told them about the love of her life, a much older professor. They chewed her out for her bad "life decisions", and never got around to mentioning their own problems.

patita, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

a friend had a theory that only children of broken marriages are a subset unto themselves

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

it is true that i am a unique flower, but i am unsure of her general premise

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

no mang are an atoll

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:22 (eighteen years ago)

are you sure?

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:24 (eighteen years ago)

that subset thing sounds more like a proclamation than a theory.

estela, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:25 (eighteen years ago)

probably true, though perhaps a kernel of something.

i wonder which is ultimately more influential? on my experience it was the lack of siblings rather than lack of biodaddy

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:38 (eighteen years ago)

yeah I think lack of siblings does far more for the oddness of the psyche, but I wouldn't know the other end of it

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:43 (eighteen years ago)

I have a bunch of siblings if anyone wants to borrow some for a while. They're all cool.

Abbott, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:44 (eighteen years ago)

x-post - Yeah, same here.

I often wonder what I would be like had I had siblings and also how my life would be different now.

ENBB, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:44 (eighteen years ago)

my wife's siblings are all showbiz

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 June 2008 04:46 (eighteen years ago)

hahahahaha

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:33 (eighteen years ago)

see that's the cool thing being an only child you get to be both the showbiz and the beef

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:33 (eighteen years ago)

being an only child with split-up parents, however, seems like it should make you the Ray

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:34 (eighteen years ago)

beef is about right. at least i'm not the téodor

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:37 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

surprise!

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:02 (seventeen years ago)

Aw, I'm sorry, dude.

home of the vain (Jenny), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

o shi

f f murray abraham (G00blar), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:07 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, thanks.

tho if i had known how productive and how thoroughly i'd clean my house in the wake of this news, i'd have had my mom drop it on me during midterms

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

Oh Evs, what a shit thing. How you doing?

How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

Oh xp you kind of answered that question.

How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

(btw to the handful of ppl that know me and á, please don't mention to her that you heard it on the internet, or even heard it at all. i don't mind posting about it on the internet, but still)

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

Aw, sorry -- here's hoping it's a peaceful and easy one.

Also, this might sound a bit too silver-lining, but the whole renegotiation of relationships that happens can actually work out for the better -- like winding up with a much more adult relationship with each of them than you otherwise might have had.

nabisco, Friday, 20 March 2009 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

Haha that can kinda be contingent on some kinda awkward moments and unnecessary information in the meantime, but still.

nabisco, Friday, 20 March 2009 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

that's what i'm hoping for, but there are certain things that are making me think that peaceful and easy might be a stretch

plus my mom basically can't work or drive, and her whole family is in another country, etc.

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

It'll be alright dude. Same thing with my parents a few years ago, things will settle and begin to feel normal with time. I wish I could offer greater words of wisdom but I'm hung over and didn't get nearly enough sleep and wheels not turnin etc.

On the + side farting and being crazy should keep you somewhat preoccupied.

this is jazz! (╓abies), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:21 (seventeen years ago)

ow that sucks man. nabisco is customarily otm but it can take a loooong time.

(and ok, i didn't hear anything...)

ain't no need for you to front for quiche (goole), Friday, 20 March 2009 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

:( that sucks dude

Lamp, Friday, 20 March 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

Sympathy, gbx, from one it also happened to.

yup.

It was one. Still, if it hadn't happened, I'd have never met Dawn.

Speaking from a purely selfish point of view, it was a rough ride for me, suddenly to be expected to be the tower of strength, at a time I'd only just managed to get myself back on my feet, health-related reasons.

Funny thing is, for all the people who are hurting and want your sympathy, it comes as a lightning bolt to them that you could actually be suffering too. They don't mean to be selfish, it's just all they have to hold on to just now.

OK, that's as profound as I'm getting. .. .. ....... ...
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*s*

Mark G, Saturday, 21 March 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

thanks all, and yeah, geoff, keep it mum (not sure a has even told br yet?)

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

gah and i have to catch a plane at 6am tomorrow

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

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Mark G, Monday, 23 March 2009 11:26 (seventeen years ago)

My cousins had to go through this. Perfect family until my uncle decided to sit down at the breakfast table and tell my aunt it was over. The children (5 + 1 adopted) all reacted differently.

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Monday, 23 March 2009 11:28 (seventeen years ago)

My parents divorced when I was eleven, I’d just got back from holiday and my mum said my dad wasn’t going to be living with us anymore. He’d moved out over the week I was away so i didn’t have to see him pack and leave apparently. Can’t remember being too bothered by it all as they never really got on with each other.

Weirdest thing was going to my dads wedding when he got remarried, that was a little awkward, not sure why, but just felt odd.

not_goodwin, Monday, 23 March 2009 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

i think i was in my 20's (or close to it) when my parents finally divorced, though they'd been separated for probably 4-5 years prior to that.

should have happened much earlier. like ten years earlier.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know who pushed this theory of "Let's stay together for the kids" as a good idea, especially when the problems in the marriage are chronic.

youcangoyourownway, Monday, 23 March 2009 12:38 (seventeen years ago)

my sympathies gbx

this happened to me way too early altho i think i'm glad it didn't happen when i was a teenager

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

as soon as my youngest brother was born i wish they'd called it a day.

i don't think growing up in the environment we did was in any way preferable to having been the product of a divorce very young.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:52 (seventeen years ago)

You don't know, really; Darraghmac. And to say that it's so horrible that parents stay together for the kids. One it's not that simple and two I think in many cases it's admirable. Being in a marriage, I see how much more balanced it is when the father (or mother) is there as well. I don't know how I'd cope being a single/divorced mum. On top of that being thrown back and forth seems a bit crap ESPECIALLY when the respective parents remarry, have other kids,... I'm not saying it's "bad".

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

assuming both parties act like reasonable adults and have the best interests at the kids at heart (which tbh is not what i'd imagine the majority of these situations actually mirror), i still don't agree.

kids get used to being 'thrown back and forth' a lot more easily than they get used to being reliant on two people that are in a bad sham relationship.

best case scenario, either way can work. divorce isn't usually a 'best case' kind of scenario.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:21 (seventeen years ago)

It's one of those 'not one size fits all' scenarios.

Mark G, Monday, 23 March 2009 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

well, yeah.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

Hey Ev, Just saw this now and wanted to say that I'm really sorry. Hope you're doing ok.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

Of course divorce is not the best case scenario, but sometimes its preferable to a particularly toxic household in which to raise children where both parents clearly can't stand each other

youcangoyourownway, Monday, 23 March 2009 18:45 (seventeen years ago)

i'm sorta doing ok (i think). i found out the day before flying down to visit friends in new mexico, but that's actually a good thing. i've got space, distractions, and two of my best friends who went through a very similar situation a few years ago (which i was privy to). so i'm good hands. worried about what'll happen when i get home and, in particular, back to school

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

My parents split a few years ago (after 34 years of marriage), and I was pretty shaken up by it at the time, since I never saw it coming, had always considered my parents' marriage a paragon of sorts, etc. But other than sort of forcing me to alter my views on relationships in general, it hasn't really had a demonstrable effect on me. For a short while I was worried about my dad, since it was pretty clear (though never spoken) that my mom was the one who initiated the divorce, but both he and my mom have had new significant others for 2+ years now and seem reasonably happy. Plus, I get two separate birthday dinners this week.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 22:50 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ this is encouraging. i def didn't see it coming, but i also haven't been around (ie - have lived out of state for ten years). my parents have been together for 39 years :-/

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 23:05 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know if the problems in my parents' marriage were ongoing or whatever, but I sort of respect that they were able to shield all of it from me while I was growing up.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 23:16 (seventeen years ago)


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