Fox News: Fierce Watchdog of the Constitution

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nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

combine this with barr going aclu, and the fact that the most vocal congressional criticisms of the patriot act (and the only reason sunset clauses were put in) came from the right, and the most powerful congressional critic of the iraq war last fall (when they were actually voting on it) was dick armey and ya gotta wonder: why is it the right's been more successful taking on the president than the left?

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

is it cuz any shots at the president from the democrats comes off as clumsy point scoring, while shots from the right seem guided by principle? or is it just the right's better at attacking in general?

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Or maybe both? I admit Hentoff's column was news to me. I don't have cable, but even when I did, I rarely watched Fox, so I haven't seen Napolitano. I do know that a lot of right-wing libertarians are no happier with the Patriot Act than left-wing civil rights defenders. The people who hated Janet Reno aren't much fonder of Ashcroft. Gotta give 'em points for consistency.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Sunday, 3 August 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

Is Feingold's 28th Amendment Constitutional?
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and what, Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:20 (sixteen years ago)

jaw-dropping

Aimless, Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)

lol

Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Saturday, 31 January 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

The 21st amendment was unconstitutional because it violated the 18th amendment.

Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Saturday, 31 January 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

seven years pass...

please please please let me get what I want

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 16:48 (nine years ago)

?

how's life, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 17:40 (nine years ago)

"what I want" = massive Fox damage

Gretchen Carlson of Fox News Files Suit Against Roger Ailes

Gretchen Carlson, the longtime Fox News anchor, filed a lawsuit on Wednesday saying that Roger Ailes, the powerful chairman of Fox News, fired her from the network last month after she refused his sexual advances and complained to him about discriminatory treatment in the newsroom.

The nature of Ms. Carlson’s allegations immediately transfixed the world of television news, where Mr. Ailes is a hugely influential figure known for demanding absolute loyalty from his employees.

A spokeswoman for Fox News did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The lawsuit — filed in Superior Court in New Jersey, where Mr. Ailes maintains a residence — portrays the Fox chairman as a serial sexual harasser, charging that he ogled Ms. Carlson in his office, called her “sexy” and frequently made sexually charged comments about her physical appearance.

Ms. Carlson, who joined Fox in 2005, charges that during a meeting last fall to discuss her concerns about what she considered ill treatment, Mr. Ailes told her: “I think you and I should have had a sexual relationship a long time ago and then you’d be good and better and I’d be good and better.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/business/media/gretchen-carlson-fox-news-roger-ailes-sexual-harassment-lawsuit.html

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 17:46 (nine years ago)

Can't believe how surprised I actually am at what insane pigs Doocy and Ailes are.

Jon Stewart kind of called an aspect of this out on TDS years ago, digging up GC's credentials and asking why in the world she decided to play a ditz on television. She was better than all of them from day one, and they hated it. So gross.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 17:53 (nine years ago)

They didn't care when that weird story about O'Reilly and my guess is that Fox will just give a few million to Carlson to go away and not talk about such things publically again.

earlnash, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:18 (nine years ago)

Nah, this is happening precisely BECAUSE something like that didn't work out.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 23:41 (nine years ago)

otm

I think this is going to get really ugly and then quite likely "end" - it'll leave a scar for sure - with possibly even a nine figure settlement or verdict. She has put her stake in the ground and Ailes is going to try and refute it until it gets very bitter. GC was a star on that network and she's after blood.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 July 2016 00:53 (nine years ago)

The most amazing thing about this story, for me, was learning that Carlson was a former Miss America. I didn't think she was any better looking than your average local market morning news anchor. That's enough to win the biggest pageant of them all?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 7 July 2016 01:08 (nine years ago)

It's a scholarship pageant, not a beauty pageant!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 7 July 2016 01:09 (nine years ago)

!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-roger-ailes-out-at-fox-news/

http://porno (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)

holy shit :O

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:36 (nine years ago)

That report is so suspect it almost apologizes in advance for being wrong.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:42 (nine years ago)

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/murdochs-have-decided-to-remove-roger-ailes.html

http://porno (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:44 (nine years ago)

hopefully this leads to an ugly and revealing court battle between ailes and the murdochs

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:46 (nine years ago)

wow!

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

have never read a book about fox news but given ailes' history as visionary media bulldog for nixon etc i'd always assumed the structure and tactics and telescreen vibe of the place owed more to him than to murdoch, altho the latter's brit tabloids are i guess p much the same thing in terms of the buttons they choose to push

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:54 (nine years ago)

Every time I see a picture if Ailes, it reminds me of Orson Welles in Touch of Evil.

earlnash, Monday, 18 July 2016 20:45 (nine years ago)

I think it is probably an important detail that James is leading the charge to boot this dude

http://porno (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2016 20:49 (nine years ago)

Like, he appears to be the family hammer who swings at the employees who bring legal distress upon the Murdoch empire.

http://porno (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2016 20:52 (nine years ago)

Man, I'm more and more convinced these are the end times. I'm adjusting my doomsday clock to reflect this news. First Ailes out at Fox, THEN the Cubs win the world series, THEN Trump is elected, then we all die.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 July 2016 21:56 (nine years ago)

lets not forget our 2016 NBA Champions, the Cleveland Cavaliers

frogbs, Monday, 18 July 2016 21:57 (nine years ago)

cubs won't win don't worry

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 18 July 2016 21:58 (nine years ago)

Sure, and neither will Trump, riiiiight ...

I'm buying a boat and a bunch of canned goods.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:02 (nine years ago)

well if it worked for the franklin expedition...

nomar, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:06 (nine years ago)

Hello.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/sources-kelly-said-ailes-sexually-harassed-her.html

As New York reported yesterday, Rupert and sons James and Lachlan, the three top executives at 21st Century Fox, have, according to multiple sources, decided that Ailes needs to be removed. Kelly, who has become something of a feminist icon thanks to her tangles with GOP nominee Donald Trump, is seen by many inside Fox as the future of the network. She’s currently in contract negotiations, and given that Bill O’Reilly has said he’s considering retirement, Fox can’t afford to lose her.

According to two sources, yesterday afternoon lawyers for 21st Century Fox gave Ailes a deadline of August 1stto resign or face being fired for cause. Ailes’s legal team, which now includes Susan Estrich, former campaign manager for Michael Dukakis, has yet to respond to the offer. Ailes has also received advice on strategy from Donald Trump and Rudy Guiliani, sources say.

I have to say -- that last sentence is firing off some conspiracy theory thoughts in my brain right about now.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:06 (nine years ago)

And yeah, he's definitely gone at this point one way or another. Consider:

Meanwhile, the Paul, Weiss lawyers are attempting to interview former Fox employees who have stories of harassment but haven’t spoken because they signed settlements with Ailes’s Fox attorney, Dianne Brandi. 21stCentury Fox is now waiving the NDAs to allow women to speak.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:09 (nine years ago)

Word spreading rapidly that Ailes is now out.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:22 (nine years ago)

Seems like the formal 'seeya' date is this Friday. Allegedly a $40 million payment. The worm turns.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:24 (nine years ago)

You would think that shitting in the pool of public discourse is compensation enough for Rog

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:38 (nine years ago)

this entire thing is hilarious to me, largely because I met James Murdoch in passing in college when he was still a dreadlocked trustafarian talking about becoming a sculpture artist so every time his name pops up, that's the persona I am seeing in my mind's eye

(NOTE: I do not really know the dude, I just have a friend who hung out with him for a hot second)

http://porno (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:55 (nine years ago)

Of course, now it's just getting weirder:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/19/report-roger-ailes-getting-golden-parachute.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

Fox initially confirmed Drudge’s report to The Daily Beast, and subsequently walked back that confirmation. Additionally, Drudge replaced a headline touting the buyout with a new one on "Fox News Drama," including a statement from the network: “Roger Ailes has never sexually harassed Megyn Kelly. In fact, he has spent much of the last decade promoting and helping her to achieve the stardom she earned, for which she has repeatedly and publicly thanked him.”

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:59 (nine years ago)

"he emotionally harassed her; get your facts straight"

http://porno (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:01 (nine years ago)

Oh, wow, I didn't know James Murdoch was the rich kid behind Rawkus.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:09 (nine years ago)

Formal statement out now, done and dusted:

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/756219570524827648

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:10 (nine years ago)

Wonder what changes we might see.

Evan, Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:15 (nine years ago)

Looking forward to hearing how Fox News reports it.

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:16 (nine years ago)

So many changes. The most changes.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:16 (nine years ago)

Chris Wallace gives nepotism a bad name

"Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace praised Ailes' as a boss and said he had already shed his tears.

Wallace told the Huffington Post:

I’ve never known a boss who transmitted a sense of mission, transmitted a sense of a team and a common purpose, more than Roger did. And the thing that’s different from any place I’ve ever worked is people feel a personal connection to Roger, and I think a lot of people feel a deep sense of personal loss.”

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:31 (nine years ago)

and I think a lot of people feel a deep sense of personal loss.”

no, they just took a bit shit.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 22 July 2016 02:38 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

Gretchen Carlson settles for $20 million (reportedly); Greta Van Susteren leaving.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:35 (nine years ago)

How much did she have to pay them for permission to leave? As a Scientologist, I bet that was tough for her.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:39 (nine years ago)

you're a Scientologist?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:41 (nine years ago)

Grammar is hard. How should I have awkwardly phrased that? I bet that was tough for her, a Scientologist?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:43 (nine years ago)

it's all good – I wanted a quick giggle.

I bet it was tough for a Scientologist like her.
As a Scientologist, she probably thought it was tough for her.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:45 (nine years ago)

no one is actually going to take this slime to court, are they?

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:47 (nine years ago)

"She's a scientologist, I bet that was tough for her" is fine for (internet) speech

"As a scientologist she probably found it difficult" if you want fancy

mark s, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:47 (nine years ago)

Scientology is no giggling matter. It's very serious stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:52 (nine years ago)

Stop the giggling! I said stop it!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:55 (nine years ago)

no one is actually going to take this slime to court, are they?

I'm already guessing the rumored divorce proceedings via his wife will be potentially entertaining.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:49 (nine years ago)

I'd guess he has a brutal nondisclosure prenuptial agreement that's practically boilerplate after his previous divorces

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:13 (nine years ago)

Am I wrong in thinking that Ailes hiring Hulk Hogan's lawyer to go after NY Mag is kind of stupid? Is that dude even anybody without Thiel bankrolling him?

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:18 (nine years ago)

Well he does have a (short) track record of inflicting maximum damage, so he's got that going for him

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:20 (nine years ago)

I should read up on the NYMag suit (threat) to see if there's anything there, but I can't imagine they would be as careless as, say, Gawker.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:24 (nine years ago)

It's strangely unclear, though I suspect Ailes wants to blame somebody for his downfall and wants to shoot the messenger.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:31 (nine years ago)

It wouldn't be republican malfeasance without subsequent attempts to blame anyone but oneself for the consequences.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:42 (nine years ago)

hulk hogan's lawyer probably cannot get all his cases tried in pinellas county, fla

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:49 (nine years ago)

Lotsa good lines in this one, where Sean O'Neal covers the change in Geraldo Rivera's public stance to no longer support the guy who no longer pays him:

http://www.avclub.com/article/geraldo-rivera-now-filled-regret-he-defended-roger-242396

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Friday, 9 September 2016 22:43 (nine years ago)


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