Germaine Greer

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― anthony, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Great guest appearance in that one _AbFab_ episode. Her anti-Tolkien criticism is another matter. Unfortunately don't know her most well- known work directly, only read bits and pieces.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

She's a fox.

― Billy Dods, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Don't you mean 'fair dinkum'?

― dave q, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

She taught me English Literature at University. She'd always be late, let our group into her office, and then gave us all a glass of sherry. Then tell us things like 'We are a nation of masturbators' at which we would nod sagely. She didn't teach us much Literature.

― Will McKenzie, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am laughing so hard i almost choked to death on my cornfakes.
I want that to the frontpeice in every greer book

― anthony, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

BUT how any sane woman can want to fuck Tony Parsons is beyond me.

― chris, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

She doesn't does she?? I'm truly shocked if that's the case.

― Billy Dods, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe she meant like 'fuck him over'

― Nick, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1. It may possibly be that GG did - somehow, possibly in inadvertant ways - good things in the past: and I mainly mean, of course, good things re. Gender Relations. No-one can take that away from her (assuming that the assumption is correct).

2. GG's appearances on Late Review are rubbish. But almost everyone on LR is rubbish - except (I must insist) *Mark Lawson himself*, who talks 200% more sense than the fools he gets into the studio (and who is basically a good, sound, reliable journalist). Still, GG is rubbish on LR - that much is certain.

Synthesis of these two points? I'm not sure. Either

a) GG has had good ideas, but is a bit silly and has let fame go to her head etc;

b) GG has good political and rhetorical effects, whether her own ideas, in *detail*, were any good or not (this is the Stanley Fish vision of how intellectuals might just occasionally have a benign influence, I suppose).

― the pinefox, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pinefox - you are bonkus of the conkus. Lawson is the pits - a true middlebrow soft touch who has no feeling WHATSOEVER for pop cult or the avant-garde, and who never expresses a surprising opinion. Greer is infuriating, batty, a snob, opinionated, sloppy - but also far more wide-ranging and ENGAGED with the whole cultural whatsit. She always seems to me to be the panelist who most carefully studies the things she's given to review.

― Andrew L, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...

"The Female Eunuch" is - shame shame - the only book on feminism that I've ever read (unless Virgina Woolf counts.) Loved it at the time, but now wonder whether it's actually a bit too easy on men, harsh on women (yes I know this is a very very vague complaint, but I can't really express it any better. The part where she goes on about how mothers/housewives are turned into such monstrous, frustrated beings that it's hardly surprising that men don't want to come home to them is a case in point - yeah, of course she's saying that that's still a consequence of male opression, but it's still putting the ball in the women's court, innit? Bad example, but I hope it gives a vague idea of what I mean.)

The amazon reviews - ihttp://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0586080554/qid=1117811048/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-7867825-6451646 are pretty scary. How come more than one person comes up with this accusation of bitterness? It's the biggest complaint ppl *always* use against feminism, and part of why I love Greer is that IMO *she* totally disproves that notion - "The Female Eunuch" has always struck me as essentially pragmatical, "all right, so this is screwed up, let's change it". Not a trace of bitterness.

What does she have to say about Tolkien? I (heart) the guy myself, but I can very well imagine that he doesn't stand up all that well under a feminist analysis.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

So so awesome.

Oh, and s&d, while we're at it?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

The Female Eunuch continues to be one of my favourite books. I wonder sometimes if it is the best book I have ever read. I have never bothered to read anything else by her though, oddly.

Germaine HATES Tolkein with a passion.

― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 3 June 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

search: kissing the rod, beautiful boy, femmine eunuch, whole woman, the one on painters
destroy: the big one on hormones

too essentalist in alot of ways

― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 3 June 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/17/michelleobama-fashion

― The tit man from the hilarious 'Loudon Wainwright III' song (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/29/duchess-cambridge-too-thin-bastard-job-germaine-greer

― nakhchivan, Monday, 29 September 2014 04:14 (eleven years ago)

I really liked her on LR, she was mostly the only good thing for years in what is (or was) a really lame format.

The part where she goes on about how mothers/housewives are turned into such monstrous, frustrated beings that it's hardly surprising that men don't want to come home to them is a case in point - yeah, of course she's saying that that's still a consequence of male opression, but it's still putting the ball in the women's court, innit? Bad example, but I hope it gives a vague idea of what I mean.

Wasn't her mother a frustrated intellectual type? That is also true of Doris Lessing's mother. That current is certainly running through the above piece.

― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 September 2014 09:40 (eleven years ago)

I was just reading about The Beautiful Boy and I'm amazed that didn't damage her reputation more, I would have thought the tabloids would have attacked her. It seems really interesting though, probably the only Greer book I'd read. Apparently the guy on the cover was unhappy with his image being used in that sexual context.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 29 September 2014 15:54 (eleven years ago)

Looks like the young fellow who was in "Death in Venice"

― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 29 September 2014 15:56 (eleven years ago)

Ah, it is!

― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 29 September 2014 15:56 (eleven years ago)

I was just reading about The Beautiful Boy and I'm amazed that didn't damage her reputation more, I would have thought the tabloids would have attacked her

Times were different then in, uh, 2003

― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 29 September 2014 16:01 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U-nontM0vM

― NI, Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:56 (ten years ago)

Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'

― "Tell them I'm in a meeting purlease" (snoball), Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:58 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

Greer's essay on rape sounds really grim: https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/only-one-after-sexual-assault/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1550492997

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 March 2019 12:20 (six years ago)

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