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Assume I'm totally ignorant on this topic (not hard to do). History, sociology, technique, biography, interviews, semiotics, gossip, photobooks of stills, etc. What should I read?

chester (synkro), Monday, 4 August 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Carol G Clover _Men, Women, & Chainsaws_
required. (Gender in horror film--crit)

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 4 August 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Consider the American Cinematographer's Handbook ($100.00 and the only tech manual you'll ever need)

Also the Projections series is ace and easy to read.

Hitchcock/Truffaut interviews

jmod@nomail.com, Monday, 4 August 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Thompson & Bordwell - 'Film History'
Christian Metz - 'The Imaginary Signifier'
Laura Mulvey - 'Visual & Other Pleasures'
Kaja Silverman - 'Male Subjectivity at the Margins' and 'The Subject of Semiotics'
Linda Williams - 'Hard Core'
Philip Rosen (editor) - 'Narrative, Apparatus, Ideology'

(I'll second 'Men, Women and Chainsaws')

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 4 August 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Easy Riders, Raging Bulls by Peter Biskind ( a cruise through sixties and seventies Hollywood)

You'll Never Eat Lunch in this Town Again by Julia Phillips (the first woman to win the Best Picture Oscar as a co-producer of "The Sting")

The Unkindest Cut by Joe Queenan (making a film on a budget less than that of Rodriguez' Il Mariachi - which was a fallacy to begin with)

Lara (Lara), Monday, 4 August 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

(Orbit I'm sorry I was such a prick to you on that other thread :(

chester (synkro), Monday, 4 August 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I've taken classes w/Phil Rosen and I found him a bit fusty; like the formal "transgressions" that really got him pumped seemed a little eh to me

I also took classes w/Kaja Silverman's ex, a bulbous Yoda-man with a bear-trap memory and the class to continue teaching her book (much which, the gossip had it, had come from him in the first place)

* "Thinking in Pictures" by John Sayles

* "Audio/Vision" by Michel Chion

i'm sorry i was a prick to everybody i was a prick to on friday :(

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 4 August 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Movie Books



  1. Necronomicon: The Journal of Horror & Erotic Cinema (1996) Andy Black [1 book, Amazon US]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1871592372.01.TZZZZZZZ.jpg

    Necronomicon: Book one continues the singular, thought-provoking exploration of transgressive cinema begun by the much-respected and acclaimed magazine of the same name. The transition to annual book format has allowed for even greater depth and diversity within the journal's trademarks of progressive critique and striking photographic content. Includes:

    * Jean Rollin: The surreal and the sapphic

    * Texas Chainsaw Massacre: Exploitation or modern fairytale?

    * Barbara Steele: Icon of S/M horror

    * Frightmare: Peter Walker's psycho-delirium classic

    * Marco Ferreri: Sadean cinema of excess

    * Deep Throat: Pornography as primitive spectacle

    * Dario Argento: Tortured looks and visual displeasure

    * Last Tango in Paris: Circles of sex and death

    * H P Lovecraft: Visions of crawling chaos

    * Witchfinder General: Michael Reeves' classic of visceral violence

    * Herschell G. Lewis: Compulsive tales and cannibal feasts

    * Evil Dead: From slapstick to splatshtick [...]

  2. Incredibly Strange Films [1 book, Amazon US]

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    [Bought this book in Miami in the early nineties, part of a series, by Atomic Books]

    Re/Search #10: Incredibly Strange Films is a functional guide to important territory neglected by the film-criticism establishment, spotlighting unhailed directors--Herschell Gordon Lewis, Russ Meyer, Larry Cohen and others--who have been critically consigned to the ghettos of gore and sexploitation films. In-depth interviews focus on philosophy, while anecdotes entertain as well as illuminate theory, Includes biographies, genre overviews, filmographies, bibliography, and A-Z of film...

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  3. How I Made a Hundred Movies in Hollywood and Never Lost a Dime [1book, Amazon US] A terrific book, loaded with great stories and anecdotes about the world of low-budget film making-- from its heyday in the 50's and 60's, to the 1980's, when the industry kind of petered out because the major studios began making the types of visceral horror, science fiction, and exploitation movies previously reserved for "quickie" independent producers like Mr. Corman. It was fun to read this book and rent some of the films as they were being discussed. Another plus: the book is peppered with informative and revealing guest essays by the likes of Francis Coppola, Joe Dante, Martin Scorcese, Jack Nicholson, and various other directors, actors, and producers who worked with and/or got their start with Roger Corman. Though most of the comments about Mr. Corman in these essays are predictably laudatory, we are also allowed to read the occasional critical or negative observation, which permits the reader to get a nicely balanced view of the subject. The book is rounded out by a great selection of photos from the dozens of movies covered. -- Joseph P. Menta, Jr [Life and times of Roger Corman according to Roger Corman]

  4. Cult Movies Stars - Danny Peary [Amazon US] Book that got me started in being interested in offbeat cinema: About movie stars and their films who developed a cult audience. Riveting read. Limited availability. [...]


Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Those Faber&Faber "_____ on _____" books (I've read Scorsese on Scorsese and Cassavetes on Cassavetes) are fantastic for all the gossip, technique, history... there's also Lynch on Lynch, Herzog on Herzog, etc. etc.

Also really enjoyed reading Making Movies by Sydney Lumet. Gives a really interesting run down on the physical act of making films by a director with a very direct and effective technique.

I took a film theory course many years ago and we covered a lot of the people Spencer mentioned... enjoyed the theory but it's a bit dry for pleasure reading, in my very humble opine.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Should qualify that last post ...dry, but if you're interested in theory, those are basically the books to read.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

A collection of Pauline Kael is the most essential in the hemisphere of criticism.

Zach S., Monday, 4 August 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

the english anthologies of cashiers du cinema are great reading for films of the 50's and 60's, esp french ones.

i have heard great things about "making movies" by sidney lumet, but i havent started it yet

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 4 August 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Spencer, we have the same bookshelf!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 4 August 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I likeMen, Women, & Chainsaws, Hard Core and Incredibly Strange Film, too.

Gossip: Hollywood Babylon and Flesh and Fantasy

rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Spencer's list great for theory.

a Pauline Kael collection is essential. Try "For Keeps" it's huge but it covers a huge period oftime so you can see how her tasttes changed (or did not)

I really enjoyed "Spike, Mike, Slackers and Dykes" by John Pierson. Pierson is a producer's rep for independent filmmakers and was linked to "She's Gotta Have It" "Slackers" "Roger & Me" "Go Fish" (all from the title) as well as "Hoop Dreams" "Clerka" and oters. Fun, interesting look at how independent cinema in the US developed.

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Jan Geerinck suggests some essential exploitation and semi-underground cinema books, but leaves out my favorite Immoral Tales by Cathal Tohill and Pete Tombs. A wonderful overview of Eurotrash horror covering such directors as Jess Franco and Jean Rollin. Excellent filmographies and the best part TONS of pictures including a still from Jose Lazzar's "The Coming of Sin" that is one of the most viscerally evocative images I have ever seen. Also, in a similar vein is Grindhouse Cinema about the birth of the Adult sex film. It starts with silent porn and goes to XXX video. Fascinating stories about pre-porn cinema and the demise of the exploitation film.

There is also that new book out by Peter Biskind called EASY RIDERS RAGING BULLS: HOW THE SEX-DRUGS-AND ROCK 'N ROLL GENERATION SAVED HOLLYWOOD which I haven't read but sounds good.

Those and probably a Pauline Kael book and you are set.

PInk Frankenstein, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

negative space by manny farber is u&k

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

A bit off topic, but the question above prompted me to do a page on criticism (movie, music, art, culture)

You can find it over here:

http://www.jahsonic.com/Criticism.html

Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks PInk Frankenstein ,

I added the Tohill book to my Movies page and my recently made http://www.jahsonic.com/JeanRollin.html page

Yours
Jan

Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Pauline Kael,

If I were to list just one Pauline Kael book: which one would you recommend me (haven't read anything by her)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-keywords=kael&search-type=ss&bq=1/ref=aps_more_bdgw_b_1/103-1048534-4542220

Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
What are some good books focusing specifically on criticism (and general essays), more than theory? Stuff like Kael's books (which are almost all out of print) or J. Hoberman's fin de siecle book.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

Sight and Sound polled writers and critics to arrive at the "most inspirational five books about film ever written":

The Biographical Dictionary of Film by David Thomson (the winner)
The American Cinema by Andrew Sarris
Notes on the Cinematographer by Robert Bresson
What is Cinema Vols 1 and 2 by Andre Bazin
Hitchcock/Truffaut

Armond White selected one his own books. History Mayne, I believe, picked the oldest book.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

Shopping list:

http://selfstyledsiren.blogspot.de/2012/11/a-bookish-cinephile-christmas.html

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago)

Think I misplaced my copy of City of Nets. Would read Peter Lorre bio.

Roadside Prisunic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

best cinema sudies books this year? I was unaware of ALL of these...

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2013/20/the-10-best-film-studies-books-of-2013

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 December 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago)

Consider the American Cinematographer's Handbook ($100.00 and the only tech manual you'll ever need)
Also the Projections series is ace and easy to read.

Hitchcock/Truffaut interviews

― j✧✧✧@nom✧✧✧.c✧✧, Monday, August 4, 2003 2:21 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is this "American Cinematographer Manual"? Are the newer versions worth paying more for?

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Monday, 23 December 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago)

I was a lot younger when I read it, but I liked Midnight Movies, by Hoberman and Rosenbaum.

Reflections from a Cinematic Cesspool, by George and Mike Kuchar.

MrDasher, Monday, 23 December 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

new Mark Harris book about 5 Hollywood directors' service in WWII:

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/mark-harris/five-came-back/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2014 13:29 (eleven years ago)

He's a great enough writer that I'm still interested in that.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 January 2014 13:32 (eleven years ago)

Is there a good book about the history of technological innovation in cinema? One that focuses on sound recording, or at least has a strong section on sound recording, would be great.

330,003 Luftballons (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:52 (eleven years ago)

not the kinda thing I would read at book length, so dunno

there's this site, tho

http://filmsound.org/film-sound-history/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 04:40 (eleven years ago)

leo enticknap's 'moving image technology: from zoetrope to digital' is dry but v thorough (and has a whole chapter about sound) - no idea if it's in print or not but probably it is

Rothko's Chicken and Waffles (donna rouge), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 04:48 (eleven years ago)

Michael Ondaatje's book of conversations with Walter Murch? I read it a few years ago and liked it. It's primarily about editing, but Murch being as famous as a sound guy, there must be some talk of sound in there.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Conversations-Walter-Murch-Editing/dp/0375709827

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 04:59 (eleven years ago)

wm, check out michel chion, who tracer mentioned lo those many years ago

only looked at 'the voice in cinema', but probably 'audio-vision' is the one you want.

j., Tuesday, 28 January 2014 05:00 (eleven years ago)

Oh dang, 4 booming recs and all I had to do was go to sleep and wake back up. Thank you all!

330,003 Luftballons (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 13:38 (eleven years ago)

I should be specific about what I want to learn: how and why dialogue recording got better, and how and why it didn't get always get better. There are so many films with bafflingly poor ADR, including shots that I can't see why they couldn't have been recorded live. But the history of filmmaking tech improvements as a whole interests me. Some of my favorite tidbits in the McGilligan bio of Hitchcock were him figuring out workarounds to technical problems.

330,003 Luftballons (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:18 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

about 100 pages into Five Came Back, v gripping and a fast read. Harris on the Cinephiliacs podcast:

http://www.thecinephiliacs.net/2014/03/episode-35-mark-harris-best-years-of.html

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 June 2014 15:45 (eleven years ago)

Just got it from the library and hoping to carve out big chunks of the next few weekends for it.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Monday, 16 June 2014 01:01 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

never gave a damn about Maltin's star ratings, but it was fun to thumb through pre-web especially

http://deadline.com/2014/08/r-i-p-leonard-maltins-movie-guide-internet-kills-iconic-print-paperback-after-45-years-821849/

might pick up a Classic Movie Guide, maybe when new ed comes out next year. easier to navigate and easier on hands than an hour of clicking.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 16:16 (eleven years ago)

One ref book that I've kept long after IMDB, et al, made it obsolete is Michael Gebert's Encyclopedia of Movie Awards.

It's Autumn Sunrise (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:21 (eleven years ago)

Even when I find his own star ratings frustrating to say the least.

It's Autumn Sunrise (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:22 (eleven years ago)

when he died a couple months ago, i mentioned that Steven Scheuer had the more successful movie guide at first. (And it was Movies on TV bcz once they were gone from theaters, that was usu yr only option.)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-ts7m4AsL._SY300_.jpg

how'd you like the Harris book? Capra, what an asshole, huh?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:30 (eleven years ago)

I had to return it to the library before finishing. But I did read the last chapter and felt bad for Capra.

It's Autumn Sunrise (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:38 (eleven years ago)

two weeks pass...

some historical Maltin guide nuggets

This was long before personal computers came along, and we did everything by hand. My wife and I cut out every one of the 8,000 reviews in the first book and glued them onto individual sheets of paper. (I remember Alice repeatedly running out to Woolworth’s on Broadway and 79th Street to buy more glue sticks—we kept using them up.) Then I used a ball-point pen to mark additions and changes in the margins, adding an actor’s name, correcting a spelling, changing a running time, etc. Believe it or not, we never completely abandoned this technique: it may seem primitive but it’s simple and effective.

In those days before videocassettes and DVDs, I tried to develop contacts at each of the studios who understood my need for detailed information—not merely what was printed in the press handouts. I developed a network of contacts, sometimes a publicist, other times a person in the print traffic department. One time I asked a man at United Artists how he determined the running time of the titles in their library and he said, “Uh…we use your book.” It was flattering—but not useful.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/leonardmaltin/movie-guide-memories-20140902

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:08 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

Anybody here have the academic credentials to get the Century of Sound: The History of Sound in Motion Pictures sets — unavailable to the general public but “available free of charge to educational, archival and research institutions and to qualified individual educators, researchers and scholars as a not-for-profit educational resource" — and let me borrow them? I'll reimburse for shipping. It would be cool for ILE to have a set that we could pass around amongst ourselves.

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2015/09/14/vertov-sound-technology-and-3d-recent-blu-ray-releases/

Heel of Fortune (WilliamC), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)

Oh, wow. I'm helping with doing this little program on filmic sound and space next spring, I kinda need that set. Wonder if we could just screen the entire 12 hours...

Frederik B, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:01 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

my friend's book Slapstick Divas made this list

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/best-film-books-of-2017_us_5a2ea585e4b0d7c3f26224e0

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 21:40 (seven years ago)

six years pass...

Finally got a decent price (under $20 with shipping from Abe) on Robin Wood's Hollywood from Vietnam to Reagan. Been periodically checking for years.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 06:05 (one year ago)

"Cult Movie Stars" by Danny Peary was mentioned at the start of this thread 20 years ago, but even more so, his "Cult Movies" books volume 1, 2 & 3, and "Guide for the Film Fanatic." Vol. 1 came out when I was 19, and they all had an immeasurable influence on my filmgeekery.

Probably impossible to get ahold of any of them nowadays.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 06:54 (one year ago)

xpost Weird, I see it on eBay for $8, with shipping. Good book?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 07:40 (one year ago)

There's a revised edition of Hollywood from Vietnam to Reagan - including post-Reagan material - that's probably more common the original book.

The real Wood collector's item is The American Nightmare booklet, although most or all of it is reprinted in the Robin Wood on the Horror film collection.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 10:14 (one year ago)

I saw both versions cheap on eBay , afaict.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 10:22 (one year ago)

(xpost) If it was just priced at $8 on eBay, there's a good chance the shipping was twice that...I think the one I bought last night has a red cover, meaning the original. I've had The American Nightmare since it came out; was actually the main text for a university course I took in 1983 on horror films.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 14:27 (one year ago)

one year passes...

The review implies this is more good than essential, but may be of interest: https://filmfreakcentral.net/2025/02/a-city-full-of-hawks-on-the-waterfront-seventy-years-later―still-the-great-american-contender-books/

Don't know if I'll ever get around to reading the book (though I'm a fan of the film), but Sinatra anecdote is tantalizing.

cryptosicko, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 16:51 (eight months ago)

snappy title

Number None, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 17:06 (eight months ago)


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