Last Great Simpsons Episode

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I'm sure this has probably been asked, but. For my money, it's the "grimey" Grimes episode.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

For me, it was the last Simpsons Holloween episode: can't remember if that was called "Tree of Terror", or something?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The one where Homer has the crayon removed from his brain.

Prude (Prude), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Treehose of Horror, Nic -- the one with the Homer clones?

Mine would be the Tokyo ep, though the Stan Lee ep was a hoot too.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Prude is OTM.

Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Treehose of Horror, Nic -- the one with the Homer clones?

That's it! My brain thanks you for finding its missing grey cell

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

nichole graham OTM. leee OTM

seriously, though, to say there hasn't been a great episode since season eight and, like, nineteen ninetey-seven is silly.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

the Grimes one was awful i thought - beginning of the end. sure there were some funny scenes, but where was the humanity? they took Homer's negative traits and maximised them to grotesque levels - how could you like the guy anymore after that? the rest of the family all became just as unlikeable soon after ('cept Maggie i guess)

so i'd go for an episode from before then but not sure which...will get back to you

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

you so crazy.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

All credit due, btw, to WGN radio personality and Simon's Tavern fixture Nick DiGilio on the Grimey Grimes (whose tombstone I'm always happiest to see in the Treehouse of Horror credits) theory.

I can't rember when it came out, but in a different way, the spinoffs-triptych episode is eerily prophetic, another watershed moment--although very funny in the not-funny way today's not-funny episodes aren't, or at least aren't consistently.

"When the Big Easy calls, you gotta accept the charges!!!"

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

After checking out snpp.com, I agree w/Prude. That Grimes episode is just annoying.

oops (Oops), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem = otm re: Grimey. This is the OTM orgy thread.

I would say that Simpsons lives on in Futurama, but that'd would be wrong on so many levels.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i would say 'Homer's Phobia' but it was hardly a classic - again it was like 'suddenly Homer's vehemently anti-gay, tho we had no idea about this for the previous eight seasons...

okay its gotta be 'Homer vs The People Of New York' or the one where they all join the Navy (utterly ridiculous but funny enough to make up for the feeling you get that the writers just stopped caring altogether)

the spin-offs one was good - but talk about jumping the shark!

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

The only good thing about the spin-offs ep was when they replaced Lisa with a nubile lass and her heaving embonpoint.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

'Burns Baby Burns' is another contender - you can always rely on Rodney Dangerfield right?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

the Vs. NYC and the simpson tide were both the season after grimey grimes.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

That Grimes episode is just annoying, the Grimes one was awful i thought

Well the idea is it's kind of apocalyptically good and/or bad, annoying, etc ... as well as exactly the 'flip' on Homer and the whole golden-age gestalt mentioned above.

Missed the Homer clones ep.--I'll check it out. The crayon ep. is very good. By the Tokyo one you mean Mr. Sparkle?

RJG: Do you really think the show's been consistently good since '97? Or is your cutoff later? PS I'm still a big fan, just not like I was. Some of the antihumor that works is still great, even--I just feel like they never sustain it (or the plain old funny) for a whole episode anymore. And many shows are just duds altogether, anymore.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

simpson tide?

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

the Vs. NYC and the simpson tide were both the season after grimey grimes.

two sparks of gold in a bag of shite then, as they say....somewhere

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

the rest of the family all became just as unlikeable soon after

Sure, but: was Marge ever even supposed to be esp. likeable? OK, maybe waaaaaaaay back, but they made her a mostly-wet blanket pretty fast ...

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The Last Day of Spring

chaki (chaki), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The last classic episode was Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie, in the 8th season, which was the last decent season. There were a just a few good episodes heere and there after that.

The Grimes episode (also season 8) was terrible because it was almost completely joke-free. It was the WORST EPISODE EVER at the point it was made. Worse stuff came later.

fletrejet, Monday, 4 August 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

sure Marge was likeable - she was the practically faultless yet still guilt-ridden mother and complete touchstone for the whole family - she was annoying at times but became far more so in the later years (around the time of the Country Club episode perhaps), but she shines in 'Marge On The Lam' (one of the all time greats) and the one where she goes to prison.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

They have destroyed all the characters on the show:

Homer -> Jerkass Homer
Marge -> Neurotic Housewife
Lisa -> PC Thug
Bart -> Bart, but he was always a boring character.

fletrejet, Monday, 4 August 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the problem I have with people saying that the more recent ones [up to season thirteen, say] are just not as good or not 'classic' is that the GOLDEN ERA of whenever wasn't exactly PERFECT, only longer ago.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

and because so many people say it so often, too.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie

Oh, god yes. "Remember to recycle, kids... TO THE EXTREME!"

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't seen recent episodes so I can't say when the last good one was, but I HATED the Grimes episode. Homer was barely even human in that one, and did lots of pointlessly cruel stuff he'd never do in earlier episodes. Like the Seinfeld finale, it struck me as being an incredibly self-loathing episode.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost - Tokyo is where the fam goes to Tokyo HOWDY GANGSTAS, so not Mr. Sparkle, which was good.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

wrong RJG, it really was perfect - at least all the episodes produced by David Mirkin were

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i blame Mike Scully for the Simpsons decline, tho this may not be entirely justified

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And like the Seinfeld finale, a masterpiece of a sort, I maintain. But clearly, not for everyone ...

PS Anyone--what season is Homer & Krusty & "without a da loop, it is nothing." (Or for that matter, what season is Mr. Sparkle?)

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I can only disagree.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Homie the Clown (which disdain of mine is on record) is season 6.
Mr. Sparkle was season 8.

Courtesy snpp.com

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

TREEHOSE OF HORROR???

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

sure Marge was likeable

Now I'm thinking of the Troy McClure line, how does it go ... "actually that was a trick question. These characters were never popular ..."

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Errr... RJG, a wizard did it.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Homie the Clown (which disdain of mine is on record)

Tell me (link me?) more ...

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Homie The Clown is a fantastic episode

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember liking it a lot ...

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The only thing wrong with it, is that it had the over-used "Homer gets a new job" plot device. But that is ok, because the jokes many and excellent.

fletrejet, Monday, 4 August 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Tomaco.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The LAat Day of Spring = the one where homer gets his thumb cut off and we meet Lisa's science project Ling-Woa the linguistic robot

chaki (chaki), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The only thing wrong with it, is that it had the over-used "Homer gets a new job" plot device. But that is ok, because the jokes many and excellent.

logic dictates this makes it better than any episode after then, given that most of them involve Homer finding a new line of work however temporarily

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

For all the hate people throw at more recent seasons, there are a lot of gems that pop up. I am currently amazed at home much I enjoy the Party Posse episode whenever it pops up, especially the spelling bee song with the line "I can no longer be a silent G". That episode kills.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

jaws wired shut, although it tails off.

I'M TALKIN' DOWNTOWN.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

The LAat Day of Spring = the one where homer gets his thumb cut off and we meet Lisa's science project Ling-Woa the linguistic robot

I betcha a whole dollar the title is "Trilogy of Error."

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Umm, the boy band episode was of the worst. Why would the Navy use a boy band to mind control new recruits, when 99% of the fanbase for boy bands are pre/teenage girls?

fletrejet, Monday, 4 August 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm thinking it may have been the st.patrick's day episode.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Homie the Clown

Remember, my being Matt Groening's cousin means I'm right.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

family guy still uses a ton of refs and is still funny. there was a women's clothing store on it the other day called BRITCHES & HOSE.

Yeah, that's a real knee-slapper. Can't wait for the goddammed lolcat reference.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

did you see brian sing the rick astly song

chaki, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

i only saw the 'Take On Me' pastiche today.

blueski, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

family guy is unwatchable

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I saw the dog sing the eighties song. My ribs broke into pieces because it was A DOG singing A RICK ASTLEY SONG.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA PP is painfully OTM. I've had this conversation w/my boyfriend way too many times re: Family Guy, Aqua Teen, etc. He told me, Not all comedies can be about a handsome man falling down." ;_;

Abbott, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

i larfed

chaki, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://www.hulu.com/watch/19698/the-simpsons-mona-leaves-a

great couch gag

and what, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 04:59 (seventeen years ago)

Woah whats this site!? I gotta check this out when I get home.

Trayce, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

we call it "Beavertron" locally

kingfish, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:12 (seventeen years ago)

Is there any way to get past the regulation on sites like that allows only Americans to view them?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 07:45 (seventeen years ago)

move to america

and what, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 07:48 (seventeen years ago)

I had a similar problem with a site with all the Prince music videos: it said that due to copyright reasons only people in the US are allowed to watch them. I don't even understand why that is so; if something is copyrighted in the US, does that mean the copyright is not valid anywhere else?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 07:49 (seventeen years ago)

Use a tor proxy? I dunno.

Trayce, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 08:51 (seventeen years ago)

I tried that one, but it didn't work either.

Can you watch those videos in Australia?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 08:57 (seventeen years ago)

Nup.

Trayce, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:10 (seventeen years ago)

I think Tor thing makes your connection totally anonymous, and sites like these only allow you to watch videos if they can detect you're connection is from the US. Is there some proxy site which would make it to look like you are in the US?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:15 (seventeen years ago)

Tuomas it's that only Americans understand Prince, his music has not been tested on the people of other nations and we fear lawsuits

J0hn D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:44 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

I like this level-headed defence of post-peak Simpsons, the gist being: just because it's no longer gamechanging genius doesn't mean it's worthless crap. (He's wrong about A Star Is Burns though) It's weird how a piece which calmly says "hey, it's still pretty funny some weeks" is framed as a maverick stance now.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/01/defend-your-show-the-simpsons/?cid=5238984

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)

yeah an absurdity like "There hasn’t been anything as mind-blowingly wretched as that crossover with The Critic, either" leads me to believe this piece was ghosted by matt groening

da croupier, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 19:16 (twelve years ago)

also the revelation of a heretofore unmentioned stepmother is not the introduction of a "new twist and layer"

da croupier, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 19:18 (twelve years ago)

nothing in that piece really beats the defense "name a better show on sundays at 8"

da croupier, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)

i've watched a bunch of new episodes over the last few months and there's definitely some good moments in most of them. i actually thought the portlandia episode was pretty funny, though the 'heroin addict jazz singer' episode he cites as a high point was terrible.

it helps if you try not to think of it as being the same show that existed from 1990 to 1997 or whatever; the voices and pacing and timing and overall vibe are all so different now that they don't even seem to take place in the same universe as 'marge vs the monorail,' et al.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)

i think i mentioned this on ilx once before, but one thing that struck me a while back when watching the Bad Years of the simpsons was that mr burns is somehow still funny, even in otherwise shitty episodes. it's kinda poignant, like they fired and replaced all the other characters except for him.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 19:28 (twelve years ago)

"Homer’s previously unknown stepmother, jazz singer and recovering heroin addict Rita LaFleur..." was actually the last episode I watched, and while it was nice to see an ep that emphasized sentimentality over Family Guy-isms, it was never funny. As a fan since '89 I've tried to find something to like in recent years, but it's really hard.

Rocking Disco Santa (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 19:32 (twelve years ago)

the voices and pacing and timing and overall vibe are all so different now that they don't even seem to take place in the same universe as 'marge vs the monorail,' et al.

This is OTM. There's one moment in the peak years I keep thinking of when trying to pinpoint why it's been so meh for so long. In the Do What You Feel Festival episode or whatever it's called, when Mrs. Krabappel asks the class what the first message sent by Gugliermo Marconi was, Milhouse says "I want-a change-a my name-a!" Edna says, "Good one, Milhouse," and he lets out a chuckle that cracks me up every time (and the writers/producers; on the commentary, that moment causes them to lose it). I can't think of any similarly off-the-cuff goofy moment in that vein over the last 12 seasons or so.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:30 (twelve years ago)

I watched one episode that had a scene where Marge got upset and threw a pair of socks at someone's car (maybe Homer's, I don't remember), and then socks actually broke the rear window, I laughed pretty hard at that.

Otherwise totally agreed; what's upsetting is that they kind of *try* to recapture the old vibe sometimes with odd nonsequiturs and "hidden" jokes that feel really forced. Something like "my name is also Bort" seems so beyond this current crop.

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

the critic is also a culprit, but i blame futurama for the bulk of the simpsons brain drain.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:52 (twelve years ago)

I've been rewatching Futurama, up to midway through season 2 now, and they really did take all the best people. At its peak, Futurama was like a joke firehose, just a constant spray of hilarity.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:56 (twelve years ago)

yeah I'm a little shocked at how great Futurama was (and still is, sometimes). The Critic was also great though it's a lot of the references are really dated, but most of the best episodes are just as clever as the good Simpsons ones

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:05 (twelve years ago)

yeah, 'the critic' is still classic. for some reason the cutaway parody gags on that show don't grate on me the way the ones on 'family guy' et al do.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:06 (twelve years ago)

I dunno how many real classic episodes the show had (outside of the "Penguins can't fly!" one) but there were so many great individual scenes on that show.

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:31 (twelve years ago)

btw the "ghost Orson Welles" flashback was way better than anything Family Guy will ever do, theres your reason

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)

Really anything Welles-related on The Critic was gold. Maurice Lamarche is a hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH1PJTY9AVA

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:20 (twelve years ago)

"Futurama" is not only funnier than 2/3rd of "The Simpsons" - which is to say, what, post season 8? - but it's also more moving, too, when it wants to be. It's got more freedom to be ridiculous without being ridiculous.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:35 (twelve years ago)

what I like too about it is it gets away with playing a little fast n loose with credulity (esp with time paradoxes and heads in jars) but when they want to, they'll apply actual, verifiable math geekery to things as well. Like the forumla to dertmine how many ppl were needed to swap bodies so they could all get back to their own. Ken Keeler developed that himself!

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:42 (twelve years ago)

I was watching the episode last night where Fry's head gets grafted onto Amy's body after the car accident, and when they're talking in the storeroom, on one of the shelves behind them are two large, identical books labeled P and NP. David X. Cohen loves his math jokes.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:12 (twelve years ago)

The Critic is classic.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:37 (twelve years ago)

i'm not that big on post-return 'futurama' but it was classic up till then.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:48 (twelve years ago)

year 252525 is super-classic

j., Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:59 (twelve years ago)

was that the time travel one where the universe looped back upon itself? because that was one of the most impressive episodes of any animated show I had ever seen; I didn't think it was any more or less funny than usual but the story was incredible

frogbs, Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:08 (twelve years ago)

Yep. "The late Phillip J Fry". One of the best episodes they've done overall, and one of the only great ones out of the new seasons (certainly, the latest season has been a major disappointment for me).

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:15 (twelve years ago)

oh yeah, forgot about that one. that's possibly my favorite episode -- but i'm a sucker for time travel stuff.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:41 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOZTDP8Ff9w

frogbs, Sunday, 13 January 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

that character resembled my real grandpa in so many ways, RIP dude :(

frogbs, Sunday, 13 January 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)

I've prolly said it before, but the Simpsons still has some amazing gags, but the timing of the jokes is so slow and measured and condescending and oldskool sitcommy now. Like the whole seasons 2-9 were built on this rapid fire interplay that live sitcoms could t do. But now we've come to expect it from Arrested Development and 40 Rock and Simpsons are now moving at Family Guy paces.soanylemts where they just wait. On. A. Punch line. Which would have never flown in 1994.

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 13 January 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)

lol 40 rock

johnny crunch, Sunday, 13 January 2013 18:16 (twelve years ago)

D-40 Rock

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 13 January 2013 18:21 (twelve years ago)

I laughed at "Happy Annibirthentines Day!".

that was the last time I laughed at the Simpsons

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 13 January 2013 18:23 (twelve years ago)

Your momma's on 40 rock.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 January 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)


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