― anthony, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Prude, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― chasimino, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Nick, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sam, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Odds posted for 2009.
― Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)
Awesome. Why do you suppose Oates's odds are better than Roth's? I always assumed Roth was the American front-runner.
― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:19 (sixteen years ago)
Can't believe they're not quoting a price on Nick Hornby.
― Feral Whizzkids kept me Going (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)
my ill informed guess=because she's a woman?
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)
Oates covers a wider swathe of territory?
― Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)
not really
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)
unless territory you mean plays and stories instead of just novels
I thought it was a "lol you fat" joke.
― Feral Whizzkids kept me Going (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)
she's super skinny though--her picture in the NY Times magazine made her look anorexic. but nice try, fatty.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)
I'm surprised that Mamet and Caryl Churchill aren't on the list. Both pretty much revolutionized their medium, in different ways.
― Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:26 (sixteen years ago)
xpost
I know, that was the joke.
― Feral Whizzkids kept me Going (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)
I'm a big Caryl Churchill fan but I feel like she's maybe a bit overlooked nowadays?
joyce carol bloates
― velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:28 (sixteen years ago)
Eazy, did you know that M@tt Pr13st played Betty in Cloud Nine in college?
― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:32 (sixteen years ago)
Le Clézio, who won last year, was ver low on the odds list.
so maybe Vargas Llosa actually has better chances than Oz,for example.
― Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)
Bob Dylan 25/1
lol.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:35 (sixteen years ago)
Presumably based on mug bets from aging stoners.
― Broman Polanski (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)
Didn't know that, Jaymc -- I would like to have seen that.
Dylan's not the craziest choice.
― Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)
dan brown 1000/1
― Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)
Over someone like Achebe? Seems like a pretty crazy choice.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)
its been a long time since a poet won..
― Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)
There's no trend or information that can help anyone predict the winner, other than knowing the type of writer who would win a prize like this. Beyond that the decision might as well be random.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)
heads 2/1tails 3/1
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:42 (sixteen years ago)
"the type of writer who would win a prize like this"
with awareness to social problems, and zero offense to anyone on his/her writings
― Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:44 (sixteen years ago)
Was Doris Lessing a controversial choice?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)
Apparently dylan is mentioned every year because there's some guy on the nobel committee who is a huge fan. But he never wins, which is a drag.
― dr. johnson (askance johnson), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)
"Beyond that the decision might as well be random."
unless the committee who choose the winner also take bets...(conspiracy lol)
― Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)
"Mary Gordon, fellas! We'll all get rich!"
― Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)
I'd've thought Rushdie would be a shoo-in eventually, he wins every other critics' poll. Might fall down on offence grounds, granted.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:48 (sixteen years ago)
it's been a long time since Rushdie published a really great book
― Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)
I kind of think it would be interesting for someone to win who not a novelist, poet or dramatist. Like an essayist or a historian or a lyricist or a screenwriter. Just to spice things up a bit. I guess they used to award it to non-fiction writers in ye olden days.
― dr. johnson (askance johnson), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)
I once got into an argument with an ex because I was adamant that morrissey should win the nobel prize.
― dr. johnson (askance johnson), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)
What for though?
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)
I'm surprised that Murakami's that high, but perhaps stuff like his writing on the gas attacks (and the as-yet-untranslated work) are making it more plausible.
― nabisco, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)
Orhan Panuk won, and he REALLY offends the Turkish (or at least their govt)
― When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Friday, 2 October 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)
With how many of the writers on that odds list have you been in the same room? (I count only seven.)
― M.V., Friday, 2 October 2009 05:19 (sixteen years ago)
There are 61 listed, by my count.
― M.V., Friday, 2 October 2009 05:21 (sixteen years ago)
In the unlikely event of a William H Gass win, expect to see the headline "Nobel Gass."
― M.V., Friday, 2 October 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)
Peter Handke
Had totally forgotten about this guy. Wonder what he's been up to in the last couple of decades.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 2 October 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)
Hmmm, seems like like he's been making a total douche of himself in Serbia.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 2 October 2009 05:36 (sixteen years ago)
And it's Herta Muller.
Don't remember what her odds were -- the Ladbrokes page is no longer online.
Also, I didn't see the typo in this thread title last week!
― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)
German novelist Herta Müller wins 2009 Nobel literature prize
― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)
Better to pick her than just chucking the money into the dustbin, or giving it to a puppy for a chew toy.
― Aimless, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)
As of yesterday, Muller was tied for 4th place in the odds with Philip Roth at 7/1. Apparently she'd been moving up strongly in the past few days, so perhaps there was some insider betting?
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Countdown-to-Literature-Nobel-Amos-Oz-Mahasweta-Devi-Odds-are/articleshow/5097710.cms
― o. nate, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)
How does the prize actually get picked? How many insiders are there?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)
Heiner Müller was robbed.
― Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)
It's picked by the Swedish Academy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Academy
18 members, but 1 seat is currently vacant. I'm not sure the mechanism of voting, who counts the votes, who would be in a position to know the outcome, etc.
― o. nate, Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)
Well one of them must be the mole. It's a bit suspicious that Knut Ahnlund and Kerstin Ekman had already posted their alibis.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:33 (sixteen years ago)