The Noble Prize for Lit

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anthony, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yup. It sure is.

Prude, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

antony ii noticed that you copeid me on my last queastion and i wqas wonderingh if you have the same problem as I do? are you the same antony that was the dj at The Ball Room that ytime when the dsco ball fell don and whe had to call the ambulances.

chasimino, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

OK, now I'm cracking up.

Nick, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

btw, Chasimino, ar u the Chasimino thats Kitty Lomond's NZ foal, 4 wins frmo 1300m to 1600m, 3d WRC Trentham S.?

Nick, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think Chasimino should be an agony aunt. Dear Aunt Chasimino, I have been going out with a lovely girl who has turned out to be a little possessive. What should I do? Yours, Just Flirting, Clapham. just flitring did ii meet you at yank bar with scuzzy food-moles? cos i hav seen gary since and hes with jupiter and says hi.

Sam, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

eight years pass...

Odds posted for 2009.

Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

Awesome. Why do you suppose Oates's odds are better than Roth's? I always assumed Roth was the American front-runner.

katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

Can't believe they're not quoting a price on Nick Hornby.

Feral Whizzkids kept me Going (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

Awesome. Why do you suppose Oates's odds are better than Roth's? I always assumed Roth was the American front-runner.

my ill informed guess=because she's a woman?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)

Oates covers a wider swathe of territory?

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)

not really

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

unless territory you mean plays and stories instead of just novels

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

I thought it was a "lol you fat" joke.

Feral Whizzkids kept me Going (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

she's super skinny though--her picture in the NY Times magazine made her look anorexic. but nice try, fatty.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

I'm surprised that Mamet and Caryl Churchill aren't on the list. Both pretty much revolutionized their medium, in different ways.

Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

I know, that was the joke.

Feral Whizzkids kept me Going (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

I'm a big Caryl Churchill fan but I feel like she's maybe a bit overlooked nowadays?

Feral Whizzkids kept me Going (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

joyce carol bloates

velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:28 (sixteen years ago)

Eazy, did you know that M@tt Pr13st played Betty in Cloud Nine in college?

katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:32 (sixteen years ago)

Le Clézio, who won last year, was ver low on the odds list.

so maybe Vargas Llosa actually has better chances than Oz,for example.

Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)

Bob Dylan 25/1

lol.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:35 (sixteen years ago)

Presumably based on mug bets from aging stoners.

Broman Polanski (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

Didn't know that, Jaymc -- I would like to have seen that.

Dylan's not the craziest choice.

Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

dan brown 1000/1

Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

Over someone like Achebe? Seems like a pretty crazy choice.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)

its been a long time since a poet won..

Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)

There's no trend or information that can help anyone predict the winner, other than knowing the type of writer who would win a prize like this. Beyond that the decision might as well be random.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)

heads 2/1
tails 3/1

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:42 (sixteen years ago)

"the type of writer who would win a prize like this"

with awareness to social problems, and zero offense to anyone on his/her writings

Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:44 (sixteen years ago)

Was Doris Lessing a controversial choice?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)

Apparently dylan is mentioned every year because there's some guy on the nobel committee who is a huge fan. But he never wins, which is a drag.

dr. johnson (askance johnson), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)

"Beyond that the decision might as well be random."

unless the committee who choose the winner also take bets...(conspiracy lol)

Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)

"Mary Gordon, fellas! We'll all get rich!"

Squash weather (Eazy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)

I'd've thought Rushdie would be a shoo-in eventually, he wins every other critics' poll. Might fall down on offence grounds, granted.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:48 (sixteen years ago)

it's been a long time since Rushdie published a really great book

Zeno, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

I kind of think it would be interesting for someone to win who not a novelist, poet or dramatist. Like an essayist or a historian or a lyricist or a screenwriter. Just to spice things up a bit. I guess they used to award it to non-fiction writers in ye olden days.

dr. johnson (askance johnson), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

I once got into an argument with an ex because I was adamant that morrissey should win the nobel prize.

dr. johnson (askance johnson), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)

What for though?

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

I'm surprised that Murakami's that high, but perhaps stuff like his writing on the gas attacks (and the as-yet-untranslated work) are making it more plausible.

nabisco, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

Orhan Panuk won, and he REALLY offends the Turkish (or at least their govt)

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Friday, 2 October 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

With how many of the writers on that odds list have you been in the same room? (I count only seven.)

M.V., Friday, 2 October 2009 05:19 (sixteen years ago)

There are 61 listed, by my count.

M.V., Friday, 2 October 2009 05:21 (sixteen years ago)

In the unlikely event of a William H Gass win, expect to see the headline "Nobel Gass."

M.V., Friday, 2 October 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

Peter Handke

Had totally forgotten about this guy. Wonder what he's been up to in the last couple of decades.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 2 October 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)

Hmmm, seems like like he's been making a total douche of himself in Serbia.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 2 October 2009 05:36 (sixteen years ago)

And it's Herta Muller.

Don't remember what her odds were -- the Ladbrokes page is no longer online.

Also, I didn't see the typo in this thread title last week!

katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

German novelist Herta Müller wins 2009 Nobel literature prize

katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

Better to pick her than just chucking the money into the dustbin, or giving it to a puppy for a chew toy.

Aimless, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)

As of yesterday, Muller was tied for 4th place in the odds with Philip Roth at 7/1. Apparently she'd been moving up strongly in the past few days, so perhaps there was some insider betting?

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Countdown-to-Literature-Nobel-Amos-Oz-Mahasweta-Devi-Odds-are/articleshow/5097710.cms

o. nate, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

How does the prize actually get picked? How many insiders are there?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

Heiner Müller was robbed.

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

It's picked by the Swedish Academy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Academy

18 members, but 1 seat is currently vacant. I'm not sure the mechanism of voting, who counts the votes, who would be in a position to know the outcome, etc.

o. nate, Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

Well one of them must be the mole. It's a bit suspicious that Knut Ahnlund and Kerstin Ekman had already posted their alibis.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:33 (sixteen years ago)


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