― Susan (Susan), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)
But you do say "um" a lot, then?
― Marcel Proust, Monday, 11 August 2003 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Susan (Susan), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)
(in the 80s it wz quincy jones as all kno)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 August 2003 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― angela (angela), Monday, 11 August 2003 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Monday, 11 August 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane, Monday, 11 August 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― G Man, Monday, 11 August 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 11 August 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)
Everybody thinks "dude ranch" came first and was somehow the origin. But whence came the dude in "dude ranch"? Before the dude-ranch dude there was dude as dandy, the dude as an urban aesthete; it was the urbanity of dude that made the dude-ranch dude dude-ish. The print version of the unabridged O.E.D. curiously calls "dude" originally "a factitious slang term." "Factitious slang"? I think what they’re suggesting is something like what happened when the guys who made Swingers tried to make "money" a slang term for "cool." God, was that a disaster. Totally embarrassing, dude. Why did "dude" succeed while "money" died a well-deserved death? It may have something to do with its origins.
"Dude" may have been made up "factitiously" (I’d like to know the dude who did it), but according to the O.E.D., it first came into vogue in New York about 1883, in connection with what the O.E.D. calls "the ‘aesthetic craze’ of the day."
"Aesthetic craze": Don’t you love it, dude? This is important to remember in considering the way "dude" has evolved, the way it’s come to be used a century after its origin, the aesthetic dimension of the word. Yes, it can be used simply to refer to a person or class of persons—the way I first heard it in my suburb in reference to "surfer dudes." But more interesting is the way its origins in an "aesthetic craze" can be linked to the way "dude" (or rather "Duuuude!") had become a one-word expression of awe and wonder. A simple awestruck Duuuude! as a way of expressing aesthetic approbation of, a crazed mutual aesthetic appreciation of, something someone says, or some phenomenon someone points out. An acknowledgment of shock and awe—or, in some cases, schlock and awe.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 11 August 2003 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 11 August 2003 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan I., Monday, 11 August 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 11 August 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 11 August 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Dude Abides (nickalicious), Monday, 11 August 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 11 August 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 11 August 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Monday, 11 August 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)
interesting. i do not much now, but have in the past made much use of "dude". with a particular friend of mine, it's gone through various permutations, becoming "dode," with the "o" pronounced like the letter o (though more often it's dooooooooode). the most recent permutation - "dode" became "wodehouse" (or, more often "woooooodehouse"). anyway.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 August 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)
The new thing I've been saying lately is "absolutely" as an all-purpose "I agree with you." It's the new "oh, totally."
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 August 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Get in jaymc.
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 11 August 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Susan (Susan), Monday, 11 August 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 11 August 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 11 August 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)
i say it in all the ways mentioned here i think. i also say it as a slightly sneery One-Size-Fits-All name for a person in a story, "so Dude walks by me, right, and little does he know there's a rattlesnake a-crawlin up his boot"
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 11 August 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 11 August 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Monday, 11 August 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Monday, 11 August 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 11 August 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 11 August 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 11 August 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 11 August 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)
(except it was allseveral years out of datebecause so were we)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 11 August 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)
As in:"Hella.""Oh, dude."
― Ess, Monday, 11 August 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)
yes, this is the key
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Was that because the sentence you used it in was, "Dude, look out for the fecal shower!" and then you pushed your friend out of the way and took his place?
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)
"I'll take 'Sentences That Are Also True Without Quotation Marks' for $600, Alex!"
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alexis (Alexis), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 11 August 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 11 August 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― winterland, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― winterland, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― chris (chris), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― chris (chris), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)
(It's a New York term originally. It didn't mean penis.)
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― sun-maid resin, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)
But perhaps I'm just an old fart who doesn't want to see language progress.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)