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It was to be expected (and therefore is not very appropriate to start off this thread, but there you go).

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I could very well be the nicest guy on the planet.

Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Portrait of a Cardinal, Probably Cardinal Fernando Niño de Guevara (1541-1609) is a very late Renaissance-period work by Domenikos Theotokopoulos, also known as El Greco. The painting, an oil-on-canvas, dates from 1600. The subject of the painting is generally identified as Cardinal Guevara, who was the Grand Inquisitor.

The work itself is quite large, using a canvas that is approximately 6 feet by 4 feet. Since the subject takes up almost the entire space, it lends to a larger-than-life quality that is quite imposing. This quality is important to the piece in that the Cardinal is a person of authority and stature in El Greco’s period and by painting him in this manner, it almost turns the viewer into a child, staring up in an almost frightened manner at a respected adult.

Upon first impressions, the composition of the work seems fairly simple and stark in design. The focus is on the Cardinal, who is seated in a chair in a room that, from what the viewer can see of it, resembles a cathedral or monastery setting, with its tapestried wall and tiled floor. The Cardinal—a thin, elongated figure—bears a stern expression, and his body is displayed in an interesting fashion. He gives the impression of alertness and tenseness while not looking uneasy. His left hand clutches the arm of the chair tightly, the left shoulder leaning forward slightly, as if ready to get up, but his opposite side is relaxed, with his hand dangling loosely. This pose indicates the Cardinal as a confident, self-assured man, and again it brings up the idea of the power figure—the Cardinal—versus the ordinary man—the viewer.

An interesting juxtaposition within the simple layout of the work is found at the bottom of the piece. The uncluttered design is suddenly marred by a slip of paper lying on the floor between the Cardinal’s planted feet. The composition of the paper indicates that it was folded into quadrants, much like a letter would be, possibly giving a reason towards his odd pose and strange expression. One imagines that the subject of the letter was not pleasant, causing the Cardinal to either throw it down or simply drop it from shock or annoyance. His position, looking ready to bolt into action, is a response to the message.

While the subject matter of the painting is beguiling, the actual manner of composition is even more fascinating. Like many of the El Greco works, Portrait of a Cardinal has an upward distortion to it, with everything seemingly very slightly stretched towards the heavens. Even the canvas itself is significantly longer than it is wide. Everything draws the eye up slowly, from the vertical folds in the Cardinal’s cloak to the swirling, elongated pattern in the tapestry. In this work, it forces the viewer to focus on the face and expression of the subject, noting his sideways glance and slightly smirking mouth.

The face is also made significant in this work due to the otherworldly palette El Greco uses. The coloring of the background of the painting is, comparatively, naturalistic, with rich gold tones making up the tapestry, and dark mahoganies making up the wood paneling behind the Cardinal. However, the Cardinal himself is almost pastel in make up. His robes are an incredible shade of red, closer to bright magenta than any red traditionally used in religious imagery. The upward folds of the robes are accentuated by extreme highlights, with very pale pink and even white tones bouncing off the canvas. His skin is pale and also has a bluish or purple cast to it; completely dissimilar from what would typically be seen as a skin tone.

This strange, bright coloring is made more noticeable by the warm tones filling the background of the painting. It immediately draws the viewers to the painting. One notes that the Cardinal suddenly takes on a supernatural cast, even from a good distance. He appears to be glowing from within—but not in a “mundane” way, for lack of a better term. He bears no resemblance to the iconography of the Virgin Mary or the Saints featured in other paintings, who also give off a glow but a warm, inviting glow. The glow of the Cardinal is steely, almost possessed in nature, and cold. He is still obviously a man empowered by God—but not a figure of forgiveness and salvation in the traditional manner of religious painting.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Today I put in my request for vacation time at my office job, to which I wear a suit and tie, so that I can go to Burning Man and become a fundamentalist Christian vegetarian.

P.S. Moxie sucks, u r all het.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Beards are so incredibly hawttt, I wish everyone would grow one! I love them almost as much as I love myself, and for someone with an ego as big as mine that's more than you can possibly comprehend.

I wish N. would post more, he is so cool and funny and smart.

Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

something on topic

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 11 August 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU ARE ALL FILTHY PERVERTS. Get away from my message board.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Sweetie Dude! It was like fantabulous to see you at the FAP. You AB-solutely must come visit me in D.C. (if you know what I mean). (Mental note: Stock up on Absolut in preparation.)

;-) ;-) ;-)

When come bring Pi!

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

for fucks sake either it rocks or it doesnt stop fucking trying to analysing it and just use your ears, if you have to ask whether its fake or not then theres no hope for you, go back and listen to that manufactured shit you pretend to like.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing is, Said discusses the concept of close-mindedness and intellectual fault, but one argument against this logic that Said doesn’t really touch upon in this piece is that, by default, European nations should have been no more able to self-govern than Asian nations. European history is littered with examples of despotic rule (Said mentions Napoleon); England still has a figurehead monarch. If these nations could become self-governing over time on their own, why would it be logical that the Oriental couldnt do the same? Anyone?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't we go to a bar for once?

Tom (Groke), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom, what you don't understand is that Freire argues that this form of education is a type of necrophilia, understanding men and women as objects to mold and control, instead of living beings with experience and capacity to change and influence.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't abide the taste of lager

Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Certainly lager is better than various vodka drinks, no? I find it true that when I drink lager, I get much drunker than when I drink vodka, though, so really I find it best to avoid both. Did I tell you I quit smoking?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd rather just do bonghits

Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Why does everyone make such a big fuss over cats? They're annoying little vermin.

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

There was an old man from Nantucket....

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

My boss is like the world's nicest man. He just lavished me with all sorts of praise on my performance and appearance, and actually told me to take a load off and go home early! I hope to work for him forever and ever; I love being the personal assistant to a man of such high moral and professional calibre.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG! WHAT IS UP BITCHES!!! LAVISH ME WITH ATTENTION!!!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

So I've been thinking a lot today. The current popularity of the tattoo makes it a valid issue demanding a Christian, Biblical response. When dealing with controversial issues, many demand chapter and verse in the Bible that deals namely and specifically with that issue. Those who do so fail to realize the nature of the Bible. The Bible is a book of principles that apply to any age, any culture, any person, any matter of life and living. Suppose the Bible specifically addressed every item, issue, and idea of every age, culture, and person. One would need a semi-truck to bring his Bible to church! But, the reason the Bible is applicable to every age and every person and every culture, is that, even if it doesn't address an issue specifically, it deals with it by its principles. There is also what is called the tenor of Scripture. The tenor of Scripture is its very nature--all that it conveys, stands for, means. We must not look just for chapter and verse, but for principles and not just for principles but for that which is becoming, fitting, and appropriate for those confessing the name of Christ. First, let's look at what has been used as chapter and verse in reference to tattoos:

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD" (Leviticus 19:28 KJV).

While, perhaps not referring to tattooing as we know it today, we will see later that tattooing developed from and is classified as scarification of which this verse is in reference to. Besides that, the point is that this type of marking of the body is a pagan, ungodly practice coming from heathen peoples.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

tomorrow, in accordance with our new dress policy, shorts and short skirts will no longer be allowed.

also, t-shirts must be without language or pictures. since some companies place their logo on shirts, a small company logo is allowed.

thank you for your time.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck it, i'm off.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

why hasnd'T ANYONE repsonded to me??? I'm all like, WTF?? Ally, you know you want me.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Being anti porn does not make me a "radical". Do not automatically assume that because I am anti-porn that I am also a man-hating, sexually deprived unfortunate of society who just doesn't understand that viewing pornography is "normal". I am anti porn because I have the right to be. I have the right to say how I truly feel. I have the right to demand respect and love, not degradation and disregard.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I had no intention of offending anybody and I'm very sorry if I did

Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

God, luna, you're so irritating.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

lesbian porn, whats the point? i prefer church

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Bob Shaw OTM.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

So there I am with one foot on the endtable, trying not to lose my balance while greasing up the candlestick, and somewhere in the back of my mind I'm wondering "is that REALLY just a friction blister, or should I have someone take a look at it?" But anyway, we're going at it, and my arm's getting tired because I'm flogging with my left hand, what with right one being busy with the candlestick, and then her MOM walks in --

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Ally, do you ever shut up?

Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

*yawns* You're more boringer than luna, Millar. Fucking vegans.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Not only am I anti-porn, I'm anti-drinking and drugs as well. I'm training to become a nun. Will you all attend my wedding to Christ?

luna (luna.c), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

ILX is SO annoying and I hate everyone here. *rolls eyes*
I'm gonna go put on my black on black ensemble and listen to Rage.
You're all a bunch of FUX0rs.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"don't feed the trolls"

Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

HELLLOOOO!!!!!!

I AM A WEREWOLF!!

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Rah! This is so spiff!!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you know, those Harry Potter bks really are so charming... and that Pratchett fella, why he's a laff riot...

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I Hate Slayer.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, shut up already, jel. Miserable git.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Heavens!

luna (luna.c), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, Doomie puts things so much more sensitively yet perceptively than no-brain arrogant cockfarmers like nabisco or luna. But no-one wants to hear my opinion, I'll just sit here quietly.

Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone want to see some photos of some food I ate for lunch?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Screw you Mark. You come to the next FAP and I'll beat you down, boy.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

from this day forward, i shall forgo from any of my masturbatory impulses. and still, what is WRONG with you people? i cant find any reason why anyone would want to solicit or proposition ANY of you for intimate relations.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus OTM

Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

If you were locked in the International Space Station with Mick Hucknall of Simply Red and Andrew Ridgeley of Wham!...

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Horace, I'd like to introduce you to my sister sometime. When can you make it to the area? Cheers!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone know where I can find a really obscure recording by some band y'all have never heard of?

luna (luna.c), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I need more caffeine

Millar (Millar), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey do any of you want to meet up when I'm in NYC?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 August 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

My feelings toward the place where I live are in no way ambivalent or conflicted.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet you're all stoned. You should just all shut your stupid dirty bongholes right now.

nickalicious with a vengeance (nickalicious), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

nick's post is the most shockingly unexpected one yet!

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Nickalicious just doesn't understand the hippie lifestyle, it is amazing. You wouldn't believe the magical times I had following Phish around for 18 months in a VW bus.

Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

nick also doesn't appreciate the genius of mike patton, buckethead, and jonsi birgusson!

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah, sigur ros is like the greatest band ever.

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I really love this thread, this gag could go for days and days and still be unbelievably hilarious to me

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the best thread I've ever started.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, Mike Patton, he's that guy from that war that had that movie about him, right?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I were back in Tampa. Seattle sucks.

Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Heads up everyone -- I've decided to become a socialist and campaign for the Green Party. I think NPR is too conservative for me. I'm going to find an anti-war protest and join in, and print "Impeach Bush" shirts, before deciding that the U.S. sucks and moving to France. Those French people know us best anyway.






*quietly hurls away in corner*

Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I've seen Ned naked.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I need to be less pragmatic, I think

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Comics are for retarded kids.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a Big Mac on my way to church today. What a day!

Hugs to everyone.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Really, Eyeball Kicks? I got THREE BIg Macs and piled them all on top of each other and opened my mouth wide... MMMM! MMM Mmmm MM MM MMM!

Sarah MCLusky (coco), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate kids.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

If you don't like the direction this thread is going, I think you should bitch about it rather than ignore it. It's your duty to impose your will on others.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Honestly, all you flaming carnivores make me sick. Don't you know what goes into commercially farmed meat? When I found out I couldn't eat for three days, and since then I've only been able to keep down organic lettuce.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

J0hn D. needs to stay away from this thread!

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Really, Eyeball Kicks? I got THREE BIg Macs and piled them all on top of each other and opened my mouth wide... MMMM! MMM Mmmm MM MM MMM!

Well, I would have had three, but then I would have felt really bad about taking communion.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

this is the thread where adam is bored at work!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

DAVE GROHL SUCKS!!!


(oh, lord that is awful)

Aja (aja), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that's really good, sensible advice, there, and your life is such a shining example of togetherness and goodness and positivity that I hope we can all follow your example and emmulate your success!

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus makes a really good and well-written point...

martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

What is your problem? The Dave Matthew's Band is not dull, Good Charlotte kick ass, AND GWEN STEFANIE (sp) IS THE BEST SINGER EVER!!!

Aja (aja), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm getting married next month.

-- Sean (saturns...), August 12th, 2003.

Given recent changes in SF, is this unexpected or not anymore?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Sean's stylist fell off of his heels and injured himself. So Sean couldn't get a haircut.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Good Charlotte dont kick ass!they suck!They do have musical talent but they pretend to be all hard rock and stuff which they certainly arent!

Claire113 (Claire Kavanagh), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, well done.

Anyway: Boy I love network and cable TV! I can't live without it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 April 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm indifferent to John Cena.

Tanika Olage (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 April 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Bush should die a slow and painful death

CAss (CAss), Saturday, 17 April 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
Cripes, sorry I have been way too swamped with work from my challenging yet fulfilling job to post to ILX recently.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 October 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

saul good. I've been gone for about the same amount of time. We're on the same schedule, apparently.

Smokin' funk by the boxes (kenan), Monday, 11 October 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

John Howard is the greatest man ever to live.

Syndey is the centre of the universe.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf you assholes, can you not make a post that's longer than two lines? christ almighty.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred is often right

bulbs (bulbs), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck off, you cunt-sucking shit-faced internet posers. Grow a goddamn life and stop bitching on your precious ILX.

I AM AJA, SNITTY HOES!

I'mma gonna C, collectively, on your Ts

Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Lordy! I just visited my church for the daily worship, and God was in there! Just sitting on a pew, looking somewhat distraught. I asked him what was wrong, and he said not enough people believe in him anymore. This saddened me, so I took him out for devonshire teas.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Rock died in 1978, due to Talking Heads and Devo's signification of the commercial capitulation and assimilation that was "new wave," along with the tuneless artistic nihilism of "no wave." The best band of the few truly decent rock groups to follow was Uncle Tupelo.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad that Atlanta is coming back tonight.

(No, really. I hate Atlanta, but I hate the Astros worse. And if Atlanta wins, they'll be too tuckered out to play the Cards well.)

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The other day I was walking along Hampshire Street, and the most peculiar feeli....shit, I gotta go. Yet another booty call. No rest for the wicked in bed.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Steely Dan is bland elevator music for idiots. Imagine a horrible mixture of the worst of Crosby, Stills, and Nash, The Doobie Brothers, Holiday Inn style fake jazz, and add a touch of Barry Manilow, and you'll come up with something as dreadful as this garbage. This is a group of souless, bland, light studio musicians who churn out generic light jazz rock with pompous and pretenious lyrics. The rhythm section sounds like they are falling asleep playing songs with tempos that plod along lazily. The singer has the gayest sounding voice since the Bee Gees. Every cliche of jazz, and light blues is pulled out of the closet and grafted to the most wimpy sounding rock band ever. This group wouldn't know a good hook if it fell on them. Avoid at all costs if you have any taste at all.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit piss cunt fuck cocksucker motherfucker and tits!!! Whew...

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

'Syndey is the centre of the universe.'

(Cont) ....and not just to people for whom Liverpool or Parramatta is the extreme western edge of the said Universe.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't believe it! i had thought Fred was a xenophobe, but he's on the money again!

bulbs (bulbs), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(....insert latest Daily Mail outrage of your choice) is just another example of political correctness gone mad.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I love that new Robbie Williams single!

Simon Green (fatmancunian), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
So where does that leave the non-melodic monotonous drumbeats which pass as 'dance' music at the moment? The only thing that is dancing is the speakers from the excessive amount of bass that seems to serve no purpose otherwise apart from the rupture of eardrums. I'm not being argumentative but I do have a genuine interest as to why people find the monotonic banging appealing. Thank god dance music is dead.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 10 January 2005 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)


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