As of today the much-loved, much-linked, huge and ever-expanding Momus website is down and dead. This wasn't unexpected, as a huge unpaid bill had been mounting to unscalable proportions for some time. Some deus ex machina or web-squatter's curfew aside, it looks unlikely that the Momus site at its demonic address will ever be re-instated.
My site has been online since 1995, stimulating and titillating with essays, photos and multimedia. Like Tom and other ilX people, I've provided content free of charge as a labour of love. If anyone can suggest a mirror site or a server with 100 MB free for low to no fee, speak now!
― Nick Currie (Momus !), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― J (Jay), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
(joking aside, I hope this site is up again right quick)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)
My sympathies re. hosting bills - I suspect Demon are a rip-off though so some good will come of this when you find another host.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.ipowerweb.com/(seems good, plus i think you can double bandwidth by just buying 2 accounts which is less that those shitty folks who start adding on $25/GB or whatever)
love, the folk hero of html
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Monday, 11 August 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 August 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)
have you tried http://www.ghoulnet.co.uk
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 11 August 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 11 August 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
momus, have you thought of setting up a paypal account? it's really a shame to see this go down permanently.
― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― joopy, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm sorry, Momus. I feel your pain. My old site only recently stopped giving me the "not authorized to view this page" message and went completely dead and gone.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Adrian Simmons, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
Drop me a line if interested.
It's the least I can do for a fellow who has cracked me up so many times!
― Daniel Swan, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Currie (Momus !), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Itchyfinger, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)
If you need a cheap domain name, I use www.namesecure.com. They charge $15/year for one year but the price slides to only $9.90/year if you buy 10 years. Too bad somebody else already has www.momus.com, though.
So hurry up, already. I'm jonesing for the next essay and "pic of the day."
― James Dawson, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Andrew, that's a kind offer. I haven't yet heard back from Daniel, who made a similar offer. My concerns are:
1. It should be free for me and for the public.2. Permanence. I want it still to be there in ten years.3. Freedom from censorship, advertising, editorial pressure, moral pressure, etc.4. FTP access by me. I do all the coding, uploading etc myself. I'm very low maintainance. In fact, no maintainance!5. Size. I'd need about 500 MB, I reckon. Although Daniel's offer of a gig was nice! Would encourage me to put a lot more mp3s up.6. Bandwidth. It should be able to handle multimedia files and about 1000 hits a day.7. Aliasing. I want to buy a domain name and have the address be 'www.whatever.com'.8. Redirection. I'd like to set up a redirect from www.demon.co.uk/momus to the new site, but maybe this is a service I need to buy from Demon, which will be problematic if I owe them a ton of money (and they just e mailed me today, and I do. A ton. Bridges burned, then.)
Any advice on these points, anyone?
― Nick Currie (Momus !), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Daniel Swan, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)
Was going to suggest that you look into V3 com, and click on "Web Hosting". However, they only go up to 300 MB, though they do give FTP access.
Onward.
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)
for the public yes, for you - possibly ;)
2. Permanence. I want it still to be there in ten years.
is fairly secure as its a dedicated unit that i pay for. and seeing as i now can't live without one i would endeavour to secure another one very quickly should anything ever happen to my current providers
3. Freedom from censorship, advertising, editorial pressure, moral pressure, etc.
no problem
4. FTP access by me. I do all the coding, uploading etc myself. I'm very low maintainance. In fact, no maintainance!
5. Size. I'd need about 500 MB, I reckon. Although Daniel's offer of a gig was nice! Would encourage me to put a lot more mp3s up.
can meet this
6. Bandwidth. It should be able to handle multimedia files and about 1000 hits a day.
gigs a day not a problem so should be fine
7. Aliasing. I want to buy a domain name and have the address be 'www.whatever.com'.
np
8. Redirection. I'd like to set up a redirect from www.demon.co.uk/momus to the new site, but maybe this is a service I need to buy from Demon, which will be problematic if I owe them a ton of money (and they just e mailed me today, and I do. A ton. Bridges burned, then.)
yes this ball is in Demon's court sadly - but i'm sure something could be worked out with them
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm going to make this a bit less verbose that my original reply, so I canget it off to you quickly...
> Do you host it yourself at home on your own server,
A PC Server, in my own home, hooked up via DSL connexion. It's got mirroredhard drives, it backs up nightly to DLT tape drive, and also backs up to aTSM backup server, allowing point-in time restores. This ensures data isprotected from both physical failure, as well as butterfingers. I lost alot of work once, and take pains to ensure it won't happen again.
I update my DNS records automatically several times a day with No-ip.com,and I keep spare hardware handy in case of failure.
I'm a decidated unix Sysadmin concerned about security, uptime, availability, and integrity of data. You'd have your own Lunix develenvironment as well, if you desire to play with such things.
>How's the bandwidth (I think my site gets up to 1000 hits a day,
Raw hits wouldn't be a problem in themselves, but culmulative bandwidthcould be an issue, if you're streaming a lot of multimedia. An idealscenario (for me) would be to host your core website on my server, and themfarm your multimedia out over a few other depots, in order to split up thetraffic. I can help arrange sites... Many of my buddies have DSL connexions, and I'm sure they'd be happy to contribute to the effort. It would be transparent to web site users.
> although obviously links to the new address will take a while to establish)?
I figure that we could have this up and running in two days, if wecoordinate well. Here's a summar of "todos" as I see them:
1) Momus registers his domain name with no-ip.com (1 hour)2) Dan configures server to host site (4 hours)3) Momus uploads site to server (~5 hours)4) Dan checks site, ensures proper functioning, tweaks where needed.5) Site goes publicly online!
> And is it likely to endure online for years?
As long as I'm around! The beauty of having your own domain name, is thatIF it should be necessary for you to move in the future, you can move in aday, and still keep the same domain name.
> Are you sure you can spare that much space (I probably only need half that)for what might be years? And would there be any kind of content restrictions?(Not that I'm planning to go crazy with obscenity or multimedia or whatever.)
Easily! As mentioned, bandwidth is a bit of an issue tho, but there'sseveral ways we can manage that if you're flexible.
>Where are you physically located?
Calgary, alberta, Canada.
> I'm thinking of buying www.imomus.com
As you like. I assume momus.com, momus.org, and momus.porn are gone?
> Tell me more! And thanks, already! If you're in New York, we could do lunchnext week, I'm there. (If you're in San Francisco, today. If you're in London,the week after next. Phew.)
You're a busy fellow! I'd love to stop by, but we're too far. I'm inKentucky at the end of this month, if that helps...
― Daniel Swan, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― David. (Cozen), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)
This restriction is likely less than ideal for you. A commercial, no-cap solution would be far better for you, but my price is hard to beat!
I'm happy to work with you on the matter though... I'm sure some stuff can be hosted locally, and some stuff can just be distributed among a few depots. My buddies would all be glad to help out.
― Daniel Swan, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)
Not a problem, althoug a copy of Oskar would be appreciated, as I can't get one in Canada.
It'll be around as long as I am! It's best if you buy your own hostname, as it enables YOU to move to to any server you want. The hostname is just an alias, that can point to wherever you like, meaning that in the event you do need to change servers, you can do so seamlessly.
Not a problem, although I may exert moral pressure for a copy of Oskar.
This is the way I'd visualized it, although I'd provide Sftp access, instead of ftp. Works much the same, but more secure for you and I.
Not a prob. Truly, I've got tons of free space... Past a certain point, bandwidth could become a bottleneck, and in that case, I'd want to move the MP3z to offsite depots, which I'd arrange foryou.
Hits not a problem... Bandwitdth not a problem, to a point.. See above.
Easy. Even multiple aliases can point to the same site.
Dunno about that one... See my post above.
― Daniel Swan, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Daniel (dancity), Thursday, 14 August 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Satan, Thursday, 14 August 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jesus (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 14 August 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)
go back to paisley, nick.
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 14 August 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)
(not really)
― Itchyfinger, Thursday, 14 August 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 August 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
details only given to you by return e-mail.
or you can try simply names and get 250mb for around £100 pounds with name.
Graham
― Graham CopeKoga, Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)
I can give you 100mbs for six months until things get sorted out.
Graham.
― Graham CopeKoga, Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)
1. It should be free for me and for the public.
Free for the public I get & am cheered by, but I don't understand why the rest of us who have websites should pay for ours while Momus's must necessarily cost him nothing.
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.savoy-truffle.de/dylan/bilder/usaforafrica.jpg
There comes a time when we heed a certain call.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 15 August 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Friday, 15 August 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 15 August 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 15 August 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 15 August 2003 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Adrian Simmons, Saturday, 16 August 2003 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)
(drumroll)
www.imomus.com
The blackout is over! To all the angels, samaritans and bystanders, I have just one thing to say: 'Let me entertain you!' No sleep till HTMLmersmith! We will rock you! etc.
― Nick Currie (Momus !), Saturday, 16 August 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 August 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 16 August 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 16 August 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)
From Grant Morrison's homepage http://www.grant-morrison.com/links.htm:
"www.demon.co.uk/momus/ - Brilliant insight from Nick Currie, my favourite songwriter and cultural commentator"
― J (Jay), Saturday, 16 August 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― J (Jay), Saturday, 16 August 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 16 August 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Sunday, 17 August 2003 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Monday, 18 August 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Things you never want to hear from your butcher, part XII
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 August 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 18 August 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
J-Morrison has mentioned being a momus fan in interviews before, as well. I wonder if they've ever met and what they might have talked about.
-Rosh
― Roshan A, Sunday, 24 August 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 24 August 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 August 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Baka, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)