so not to be all gareth, or even Tracer Hand, but I will be vacationing in that angelic city from August 22 (Fri, noon) to 25 (Mon, mid-aft). I will be staying with my grandmother in Playa del Rey, and spending most of my time there or about with her. Any tourist suggestions (see below for my working list) would be most appreciated.
Of course, I'd also love to see/meet LA ILxors while I'm there, though only briefly may be possible. No obligation, duh; I haven't been here long enough to know y'all that well, and I know some people don't live in the city proper, but if some of you want to meet up, great. Disclaimer - I may not make firm plans until I arrive, though I'll have net access and a cell while I'm there. I'll generally be free in the evenings (say 9ish on), and perhaps on Sunday afternoon. I will have a car (though probably not Sunday afternoon, unless I rent one), but my almost-nonexistent and extremely rusty driving skills are such that it might take me some time to get anywhere. And I won't be drinking if I'm driving (night-time and/or freeways will be scary enough).
Stuff I have done in the past, some of which I might want to do again:- been through most of the neighborhoods- shopped Third St.- wandered briefly around the canal in Venice- been to the Getty long enough to look at the buildings, the view, a painting and an urn- had lunch at a diner up on the hill on Sunset- had coffee at night in Abbott-Kinney *swoon* (with older hippie girl who liked me but was lost to Prague, oh well)- toured the Hollyhock and Ennis-Brown houses, and gazed up at the Neutra on the hill- walked around the Gamble house- visited the MOCA, the Norton Simon and the Southwest Museum- stepped into Union Station and walked through the touristy part of the pueblo across the street (was that Olvera street?)- visited UCLA, Cal-Tech (not sure abt USC but went to the museums next door when I was a kid)- run through fred segal in 5 minutes, feared price tags- wandered a bit of Melrose- noshed La Brea Bakery
Stuff I would like to do (I clearly have not allowed myself enough time; I'll be back): - be Nikki Sixx, or at least Riki Rachtman. I'm not going to pull off the fashion, duh, but I'd love to see the Whisky/Troubadour/Roxy/Rainbow/Cat Club (I want a t-shirt)/etc. (Gazzari's closed right?)- tour the Schindler House- eat the world's best taco- have only-in-LA food (asian, presumably. though I can be unadventurous on that end and don't eat pork)- have Silverlake hip rub off on me- catch a wave (probably on the "boogieboard" - is there an alternate, technically accurate term? - that i haven't used since i was 9 or something - are there people who teach this to the ocean-challenged or is this just something you learn by doing?)- eat a Pink's hot dog (with goth makeup on?)- buy cool flipflops- see the Frank Gehry house (y'know, the original) and the new concert hall- hear a norteno band play at a backyard party (ok, that's a stretch)- the Autry Museum- the big exhibit on at LACMA- JPL tour- Paramount tour (do any of the Culver studios have tours now?)- Santa Monica pier- musso and frank's? the ivy? you tell me- bar marmont? the one at the bev hills hotel? Skybar? you tell me
oh, another request. I'll be taking my grandmother to eat one night at Joe's in Santa Monica. Any recommendations for a similar place for another (potentially hypothetical) night, preferably in or near Santa Monica (but no Mexican or Asian)? My much-better-traveled parents recommend Lucques (though that's not really near Santa Monica). I was thinking maybe JiRaffe?
(also, the gabbneb LA style - how do i not look like the East Coaster that I totally am?)
― gab*neb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)
- eat the world's best taco
i'm never gonna shut up about Tito's Tacos on Sepulveda and Washington. every single time i come home i go there as soon as i can. order a taco w/cheese and a bean and cheese burrito and you're set. god i miss that place.
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)
my grandmother lives right off Manchester.
I once went to a Dodger game with my grandfather (who passed away) and the park was memorable. I'm trying to change my non-baseball-dude ways, but I think it would eat up too much time.
santa monica pier warning duly noted. it did look that way. but this makes me think of my favorite Ray Bradbury book - "Death is a Lonely Business" - which takes place in LA.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Amoeba - in hollywood. big enough to give you a 'holy shit'Rhino - on westwood just north of Santa MonicaAron's - Highland just north of Santa MonicaVinyl Fetish - i guess they've moved. also in hollywood, it says down the street from amoeba
and a trip down Melrose will give you enough small, mostly vinyl shops (along with tons of boutique-y clothing and hipster stores) to keep you busy for at least half an afternoon. great people watching.
and there are a bunch of Penny Lanes (where i used to work for - before it turned into a porn store) and Moby Discs that are decent but not great
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Stuff I would like to do (I clearly have not allowed myself enough time; I'll be back): - be Nikki Sixx, or at least Riki Rachtman. I'm not going to pull off the fashion, duh, but I'd love to see the Whisky/Troubadour/Roxy/Rainbow/Cat Club (I want a t-shirt)/etc. (Gazzari's closed right?)
Right. The big trio of industry showcase venues are the Roxy, Whiskey and the Troubadour. This is where you can see A&R scouts on a weeknight pretending not to be interested.
The Rainbow and Cocunut Teaszer are the 80s metal places.
They're all grungy but the Viper Room is a venue on the chic-er side of rawk. It is conveniently located near the Whiskey Bar at the
I second ?Jason's recommendation for Tico's.- have only-in-LA food (asian, presumably. though I can be unadventurous on that end and don't eat pork)
NONONONO, forget about Asian, that's what Jean-Georges Vongerscherschen is for. Only-in-LA dining experiences are Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles and Swinger's (the 323 one, not the Santa Monica one) on Beverly at 2 a.m. The food at Swinger's is unremarkable, go for the scene.
Kate Mantolini is a good combo of food, scene (Heat was shot there in part) and late dining. - have Silverlake hip rub off on me
Shop the one stretch on Vermont and see a show at Spaceland.
- eat a Pink's hot dog (with goth makeup on?)
Pink's is fun, as is the whole Fairfax district.
- musso and frank's? the ivy? you tell me
Ivy on Robertson is where the real fun is. Try the corn chowder, the berry crumble and if you have dough to blow and eat lobster, order the lobster grilled (not on the menu).
- bar marmont? the one at the bev hills hotel? Skybar? you tell me
You have to see the Chateau Marmont but the bar is pretty chill IIRC. The Sunset hotel bars are kind of what you'd expect. The bar at the Standard downtown is supposed to be the white hot bar du jour. Sunset Marquis is a classic rock glamor bar, but the only velvet rope-ish rock bar I know in LA.
Look for Angelyne.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)
What felicity said.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)
other only in la food are:phillipe's (where the french dip was invented) - right by Union Station, where olvera meets the 101.bob's big boy (burbank)ginza sushiko (b.hills... but only if you wanna drop some $$$)
the ivy reminds me of cheezy guys sweating cologne in bad suits and this person i spent way too much time and energy with. does it turn into a nightclub after a certain hour, i swear this is the place i'm thinking of.
hey you might see me at fred segal that weekend!
also: take the angel's flight up to bunker hill, actually do that and also take the walking tour of downtown la, i love it, i do it every year.
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)
Lucques is an exact replica of a Metapacking District restaurant in the 310 area of West Hollywood. Which is fine but why would you leave NY to do that? If you are staying in town to splash out you can go to L'Orangerie (LA's version of Daniel or Le Cirque) on La Cienega and send your mineral water back three times like in the Player. Jiraffe is perfectly fine but nothing special unless you need to be near Auntie Anne's Pretzels on the 3rd Street promenade. If you must stay on the West Side, why don't you go up to Geoffrey's on the PCH in Malibu for the spectacular view?
I like Fred Segal on Melrose but not the Santa Monica one. Boo, I had another thought in my head but it went away.
Anyway have a great time, gabbneb, I'm so excited for you.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway, you'll have fun, my only suggestion, since you seem to have spent most of your prior trips on the West Side, would be to try to explore neighborhoods east of Doheny such as Hancock Park (La Brea), Larchmont, Los Feliz, ok? It's like coming to NY and spending all your time in the West Village as opposed to the East.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Had a perfect spot to suggest, but just lost it. Sorry.
Have a grand time!
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Lucques caveat noted. I'll be spending $, obv., but L'Orangerie would be a little much, and Malibu way too far. firm insistence on tap water would make me the New Yorker I guess.
what are the angel's flight and angelyne? can anyone confirm my too-subtle reference/question re: Pink's - it's the one in the "Free Fallin" video, yes?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)
i think free falling was filmed in the valley, was pink's in it, i know not. pink's was however in mulholland drive.
angel's flight is near moca in downtown la, about a block east (?)... near pershing square.
more economical eateries i recommend joe's on abbott-kinney it's great and not over-priced (it's on abbott-kinney ha).
angelyne is the barbie doll looking bimbo most famous (?) for her picture in the moonlighting opening/intro. (x-post) she used to drive a bright pink corvette.
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
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― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 14 August 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)
Are you talking about Chaya Venice (as opposed to Chaya Beverly Hills near Robertson)?
I guess Hal's (a time-honored Venice art gallery scene restaurant) might fit gab's description, although all these restaurants have the same Chilean Sea Bass, *-Encrusted Salmon and 1/2 Roasted Chicken, admit it. Sea Bass is the Seared Tuna of the Aughts.
Actually, another only-in-LA food I miss is the fried fish and french fries at Versailles, a wonderful cheap and yummy Cuban restaurant in Palms. I don't know what they do to their fish but it is yum.
― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
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― JasonD (JasonD), Thursday, 14 August 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)
The only new nice places I have to add are A.O.C. on Third which is great if grandma can deal with Tapas, and Opaline and M on Beverly.
Also, if I'm in town, you should come by and we'll have a coffee at The King's Road Cafe and then walk up to the Schindler House.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 14 August 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)
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― pb, Friday, 15 August 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)
have you ever been to sun valley or van nuys!?!
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 16 August 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)
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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 17 August 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)
so that Silverlake street fair on Sunday sounds cool. If possible, I'd like to check out the Dandy Warhols on Sunday night, though I might make it only for the end. Anyone up for post-show drink/coffee at Spaceland/Tsunami/other? It's possible I'll also be around there and available earlier in the day, but that's even more tbd.
Anyone know anything about 5 Dudley, a restaurant in Venice (right near Joe's)? It sounds like exactly my kind of place.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 August 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)
but no I haven't heard of 5 Dudley.
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SFO - 9/27-30?SEA - 9/30-10/5?
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― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 15 September 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)
I'll probably be wanting to get some sleep. :-/ oh well.
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Live painting (to be auctioned off @ end of night)Mear OneJim MahfoodUmar Rashid "FroHawk Two-Feather "FloeAlfie Numeric+ more painters to be announced.
Also a Silent Auction with artwork and autographed items from many artists and other items donated by:Ubiquity records, Puma, Stonesthrow records, Beat Junkies, Quantic, HVW8'S, Mear One, Urb Magazine, Buff Monster, Kajmere, Noah Massey, Madlib, Jay Dee, Slum Village, Jim Mahfood, Umar Rashid, KCRW, Emortal Clothing, Z-Trip, Daz-I-Que & Bugz in the Attic, Brandy Flower, The Percussions & Herbie Hancock, PlasticGod & many more T.B.A.
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we'll be donating funds to: http://www.habitat.org
Plus to a Few Local churches in the New Orleans and Slidell area!!
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Have fun at Amoeba and wherever else you roam!
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