music for my friend to get better

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i have a v.close friend who recently had a fairly serious stress&overwork related breakdown

she just wrote me a long letter about what she does these days to rest and recuperate, and since a lot of this involved the sea and swimming, it reminded me of robert wyatt's "rock bottom", which i'm going to tape and send her

of course since i've already said that her letter reminded me of this record, i'm already a tiny bit nervous that she'll listen for a bit and say "mark this is awful, do i really remind of you this? how horrible!!" — not very likely, perhaps, but who doesn't tiptoe a bit round convalescents? her getting better is far more important than her getting better taste

(let along sharing my tastes, which by all sane accounts = getting worse tastes)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

anyway this is a thread about music and unwellness, and what helped you through whatever, or your friend — and do you still listen to it and like it, or was it just pale fever dreams on the way to recovery, and left behind when you/they stepped out of bed?

mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

piano magic - a trick of the sea

gareth (gareth), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm...a very good question. Anything I could describe as 'warm' would fit the bill, which while generic has the advantage of being enveloping (as I see it). Something like early eighties Eno, pre-debut album Slowdive...anything quietly cocooning. Gareth's choice is a fine one.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i vote for early
Jamaican vocal group stuff:
creamy harmonies

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

during an epic attack of flu earlier this year (not at all the same kind of illness, but it totally floored me for two solid weeks - never, ever will i use this word to describe a mere cold), i found barbara morgenstern's nicht's muss, greg davis' arbor, ogurusu norihide's modern and a vast amount of the cocteau twins really beautiful and soothing...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

jackson five!

Nellie (nellskies), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

music for invalids = billie holiday, bob dylan, ugly cassanova, elliot smith, johnny cash anything with that soothing, organic sound.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Music can have very strong physiological effects on people, especially in terms of fighting stress/anxiety. Sometimes subtle droney music can do more to reduce one's stress levels than a variety of medications. Some stuff along those lines that I recommend:

Future Sound of London's Lifeforms
Talvin Singh & Amar "Jaan"
any of the Talvin Singh/Bill Laswell ambient albums
Peter Gabriel's Passion

Also, the human voice can be very therapeutic (as it's one of the instruments/tonal colors that our bodies react to with the greatest significance), some recommendations more along those lines:

Ladysmith Black Mambazo
Zap Mama
yodeling (either the kind they do in the Alps or the Appalachian kind)
traditional Innuit singing
traditional Pak. qawwali music (Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan = pretty much undisputed master of this)
in fact, most regional traditional singing styles that are rooted in faith-based things (such as the Gregorian monk chants or the Tibetan chants or Indian hymns or Native American tribal chants etc.) are very very good for this

There's also Buckethead's super-sublime Colma album, all acoustic guitars and very sparse beats, it's like audio Sunday-morning sunshine. I'd recommend "White Wash" off that album in particular.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been listening to Roxy Music : Avalon since age six whenever I needed some uplift. So now the record is linked to pretty much every unpleasant event in my life - failed exams, bad trips, heartbreaks, puberty hell, dental surgery, a car crash, that brick I catapulted onto my head when I was eight, etc etc - and it still doesn't get old or boring. As a matter of fact, Bryan Ferry soothes my hangover as we speak.

Sommermute (Wintermute), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Bill Laswell

these words strike a chord of terror up my spine - if someone were to force me to listen to laswell while ill, i would hate them forever...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't mean to be mean, but some of these recommendations would probably make me feel worse (and not because I don't like them, or because they are bad, but just because of the kind of feelings they tend to conjure up). I probably wouldn't want to listen to Dylan, Billie Holiday, or Roxy Music (at least not Avalon, which I find depressing under the best of circumstances) if I were down.

On the other hand, listening to some sad sounding Arabic music has helped me get through depressed times, so who knows? (I think in my case not being able to understand the lyrics made the sadness of the music less distressing.)

I personally tend to like droney or otherwise spare sorts of music when I am feeling run down. My own choices would probably be closest to nickalicious's general recommendations (but not necessarily specifics). Some of my favorites for days of sheer exhaustion: the two Fripp & Eno collaborations, Fred Frith's Clearning, (any guitarist whose last name beings "Fri"), Hans Reichel's Bonobo Beach, baroque lute by Weiss (though lately I haven't been reaching for that very often). It looks like I like guitars and guitar-like instruments under those circumstances. Non-guitar: Sun Ra's Monorails and Sattellites (but a lot of other Sun Ra would work for me, as well, under those circumstances, including, particularly, Out There a Minute, although when I first bought that album I found it kind of a downer).

I think it's a really personal thing that's hard to predict.

Al Andalous, Friday, 15 August 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Clearing, not Clearning.

Al Andalous, Friday, 15 August 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I went to my favourite happy music pretty often when in a bad state: the refined sound of ecstasy made into music is the late '50s work of Louis Prima. Happiest, most fun music I know. Daphne & Celeste are great too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Bach always makes me happy.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

music with no words.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Haikunymn speaks truth
get a Paragons "best of"
for instant wellness

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

my first tape =
rock bottom/return of the giant slits

that is strange music to swim around in

but yes i think i will do a prima/congos tape to go with it, as nice upfulness

mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

along trick of the sea lines, charles atlas' worsted weight (I know I'm plugging friends but I think so).

Eno: Music for Films or the Shutov Assembly, which is very, very calming and beautiful but no-one ever seems to remark on it.

All of the Landing records I've heard would fit the bill as well.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

see the person in question can get very ratty when they feel they are merely being "calmed" or "soothed"

(also i find eno quite unsettling quite often)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Talk Talk: Laughing Stock

Joyce: Feminina

are two records that have a supernatural calming ability upon me.

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Saturday, 16 August 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I think Bossa Nova would be quite nice. I don't how much of that you have or whether you like it enough to make a comp but the harmonies and the singing are lovely.

How abt ornette coleman: does that person like jazz? anyway, at least 'lonely woman'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 16 August 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

yes i think i might steer clear of a song called "lonely woman" for the exact precise moment - but "live at the golden circle" is a nice idea

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

When I had my throat pox of doom I seem to remember listening to the Tatu album a lot. This is probably because it was on repeat and the CD player was over the other side of the room.

Sarah (starry), Saturday, 16 August 2003 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i second Nathans suggestion of Laughing Stock.

i'd also suggest Herbert's Bodily Functions - like the Talk Talk album it's simultanously soothing and upbeat.

if these suggestions are a bit too abstract what about some Bill Withers or Al Green? Few songs can soothe like Lovely day, Grandma's Hands or Simply Beautiful.

jed-e-3, Saturday, 16 August 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

''yes i think i might steer clear of a song called "lonely woman" for the exact precise moment - but "live at the golden circle" is a nice idea''

heh. well you could give it another title. there are many of course.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

um, what i meant was: give another title for 'lonely woman' as its a wonderful tune (he has many great melodies but that is special).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 16 August 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry Mark, I laughed out loud when I read Julio suggesting 'Lonely Woman', SO magnificently inappropriate (there's always the MJQ version, tho...)

What abt some oceanic electric Miles?

Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 16 August 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

bah.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 16 August 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)


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