premiership predictions - round 02

Okay, I'm in! Of course, I don't mind losing points ;)

Newcastle v Man Utd = 1-3
Bolton v Blackburn = 1-1
Chelsea v Leicester = 2-0
Everton v Fulham = 1-1
Man City v Portsmouth = 4-1

Southampton v Birmingham = 2-0
Tottenham v Leeds = 3-1
Wolves v Charlton = 0-0

Aston Villa v Liverpool = 1-2
Middlesbrough v Arsenal = 0-2

Blackburn v Man City = 2-2

Leeds v Southampton = 2-1
Leicester v Middlesbrough = 1-2
Portsmouth v Bolton = 2-2
Charlton v Everton = 2-1

Arsenal v Aston Villa = 3-0
Liverpool v Tottenham = 0-2
Man Utd v Wolves = 5-0

Newcastle v Man Utd = 0-2
Bolton v Blackburn = 0-1
Chelsea v Leicester = 2-1
Everton v Fulham = 3-1
Man City v Portsmouth = 1-2

Southampton v Birmingham = 0-0
Tottenham v Leeds = 0-0
Wolves v Charlton = 3-1

Aston Villa v Liverpool = 2-0
Middlesbrough v Arsenal = 1-4

Blackburn v Man City = 1-1

Leeds v Southampton = 0-1
Leicester v Middlesbrough = 1-0
Portsmouth v Bolton = 2-0
Charlton v Everton = 0-1

Arsenal v Aston Villa = 1-2
Liverpool v Tottenham = 3-1
Man Utd v Wolves = 4-1

actually the Monday game will also count double, but only if you get the result dead right

Newcastle 0-2 Man Utd
Bolton 1-3 Blackburn
Chelsea 5-0 Leicester
Everton 1-1 Fulham
Man City 3-0 Portsmouth
Southampton 2-1 Birmingham
Tottenham 1-3 Leeds
Wolves 1-0 Charlton
Aston Villa 0-0 Liverpool
Middlesbrough 2-1 Arsenal
Blackburn 1-2 Man City
Leeds 0-3 Southampton
Leicester 0-0 Middlesbrough
Portsmouth 1-0 Bolton
Charlton 4-3 Everton
Arsenal 5-1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 1-0 Tottenham
Man Utd 2-2 Wolves

Newcastle 1-2 Man Utd
Bolton 0-1 Blackburn
Chelsea 4-1 Leicester
Everton 2-1 Fulham
Man City 2-1 Portsmouth
Southampton 1-2 Birmingham
Tottenham 1-1 Leeds
Wolves 2-1 Charlton

Aston Villa 1-2 Liverpool
Middlesbrough 1-3 Arsenal

Blackburn 2-1 Man City

Leeds 3-1 Southampton
Leicester 0-1 Middlesbrough
Portsmouth 3-2 Bolton
Charlton 1-1 Everton

Arsenal 1-0 Aston Villa
Liverpool 2-1 Tottenham
Man Utd 2-0 Wolves

Saturday 23 August 2003
Newcastle v Man Utd 1-2
Bolton v Blackburn 0-1
Chelsea v Leicester 4-0
Everton v Fulham 1-0
Man City v Portsmouth 2-0
Southampton v Birmingham 1-0
Tottenham v Leeds 0-0
Wolves v Charlton 0-0

Sun Aug 24 2003
Aston Villa v Liverpool 0-1
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 1-3

Mon Aug 25 2003
Blackburn v Man City 1-1

Tue Aug 26 2003
Leeds v Southampton 0-0
Leicester v Middlesbrough 0-0
Portsmouth v Bolton 0-0
Charlton v Everton 0-0

Wed Aug 27 2003
Arsenal v Aston Villa 3-1
Liverpool v Tottenham 2-0
Man Utd v Wolves 5-0

Yikes. A full twenty points off the lead already!

Here we go.

Saturday 23 August 2003

Newcastle 1-2 Man Utd
Bolton 2-1 Blackburn
Chelsea 3-0 Leicester
Everton 0-1 Fulham
Man City 1-1 Portsmouth
Southampton 1-1 Birmingham
Tottenham 1-1 Leeds
Wolves 1-0 Charlton

Sun Aug 24 2003

Aston Villa 0-0 Liverpool
Middlesbrough 0-0 Arsenal

Mon Aug 25 2003

Blackburn 0-1 Man City [Anelka 87]

Tue Aug 26 2003

Leeds 2-1 Southampton
Leicester 1-0 Middlesbrough
Portsmouth 3-3 Bolton
Charlton 2-1 Everton

Wed Aug 27 2003

Arsenal 1-0 Aston Villa
Liverpool 1-3 Tottenham
Man Utd 1-0 Wolves

Stevem, thanks for doing all this. Yes, the Blackburn v City game comes hot on the heels of Saturday but is definitely in the third round of matches not the second.

ok, here goes...

Newcastle v Man Utd = 1-1
Bolton v Blackburn = 0-2
Chelsea v Leicester = 3-0
Everton v Fulham = 0-1
Man City v Portsmouth = 2-1

Southampton v Birmingham = 2-0
Tottenham v Leeds = 1-1
Wolves v Charlton = 2-0

Aston Villa v Liverpool = 0-2
Middlesbrough v Arsenal = 1-3

Blackburn v Man City = 1-1

Leeds v Southampton = 1-1
Leicester v Middlesbrough = 1-1
Portsmouth v Bolton = 1-1
Charlton v Everton = 1-1

Arsenal v Aston Villa = 3-0
Liverpool v Tottenham = 2-1
Man Utd v Wolves = 3-0

Newcastle 2-2 Man Utd
Bolton 0-2 Blackburn
Chelsea 3-0 Leicester
Everton 1-0 Fulham
Man City 2-1 Portsmouth
Southampton 1-0 Birmingham
Tottenham 2-1 Leeds
Wolves 0-1 Charlton
Aston Villa 0-2 Liverpool
Middlesbrough 1-3 Arsenal

Blackburn 2-1 Man City

Leeds 1-2 Southampton
Leicester 0-1 Middlesbrough
Portsmouth 1-1 Bolton
Charlton 1-1 Everton

Arsenal 4-1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 3-0 Tottenham
Man Utd 5-0 Wolves

Newcastle 1 Man Utd 1
Bolton 3 Blackburn 1
Chelsea 1 Leicester 0
Everton 2 Fulham 2
Man City 2 Portsmouth 1
Southampton 1 Birmingham 1
Tottenham 0 Leeds 0
Wolves 1 Charlton 3
Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 2
Middlesbrough 0 Arsenal 2
Blackburn 1 Man City 1
Leeds 3 Southampton 3
Leicester 0 Middlesbrough 1
Portsmouth 0 Bolton 2
Charlton 3 Everton 3
Arsenal 0 Aston Villa 0
Liverpool 0 Tottenham 0
Man Utd 2 Wolves 1

Newcastle 1 v Man Utd 3
Bolton 0 v Blackburn 2
Chelsea 4 v Leicester 0
Everton 2 v Fulham 1
Man City 2 v Portsmouth 0
Southampton 2 v Birmingham 0
Tottenham 3 v Leeds 2
Wolves 1 v Charlton 2

Aston Villa 0 v Liverpool 2
Middlesbrough 1 v Arsenal 2

Blackburn 3 v Man City 0

Leeds 1 v Southampton 1
Leicester 0 v Middlesbrough 2
Portsmouth 0 v Bolton 1
Charlton 2 v Everton 1

Arsenal 3 v Aston Villa 0
Liverpool 3 v Tottenham 1
Man Utd 6 v Wolves 0

Newcastle v Man Utd 3-2
Bolton v Blackburn 2-2
Chelsea v Leicester 5-0
Everton v Fulham 3-1
Man City v Portsmouth 3-0
Southampton v Birmingham 2-2
Tottenham v Leeds 2-1
Wolves v Charlton 0-2

Aston Villa v Liverpool 1-2
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 1-3

Blackburn v Man City 2-2

Leeds v Southampton 1-2
Leicester v Middlesbrough 0-2
Portsmouth v Bolton 1-2
Charlton v Everton 1-0

Arsenal v Aston Villa 3-0
Liverpool v Tottenham 2-1
Man Utd v Wolves 5-1

Newcastle v Man Utd 2-3
Bolton v Blackburn 0-2
Chelsea v Leicester 1-3
Everton v Fulham 2-1
Man City v Portsmouth 2-1
Southampton v Birmingham 1-0
Tottenham v Leeds 2-1
Wolves v Charlton 1-2

Aston Villa v Liverpool 1-3
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 1-3

Blackburn v Man City 2-1

Leeds v Southampton 1-2
Leicester v Middlesbrough 2-3
Portsmouth v Bolton 1-2
Charlton v Everton 1-3

Arsenal v Aston Villa 3-1
Liverpool v Tottenham 3-2
Man Utd v Wolves 4-1

Sorry, make that:
Chelsea v Leicester 3-1

Newcastle 0-2 Man Utd
Bolton 0-3 Blackburn
Chelsea 2-0 Leicester
Everton 1-1 Fulham
Man City 4-1 Portsmouth
Southampton 0-0 Birmingham
Tottenham 2-1 Leeds
Wolves 0-3 Charlton
Aston Villa 0-1 Liverpool
Middlesbrough 0-2 Arsenal

Blackburn 3-1 Man City

Leeds 1-1 Southampton
Leicester 0-2 Middlesbrough
Portsmouth 1-1 Bolton
Charlton 1-0 Everton

Arsenal 4-0 Aston Villa
Liverpool 2-0 Tottenham
Man Utd 3-0 Wolves

Newcastle 1 Man Utd 2
Bolton 0 Blackburn 2
Chelsea 3 Leicester 1
Everton 1 Fulham 0
Man City 3 Portsmouth 0
Southampton 1 Birmingham 1
Tottenham 1 Leeds 2
Wolves 0 Charlton 0

Sun Aug 24 2003

Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 2
Middlesbrough 1 Arsenal 3

Mon Aug 25 2003

Blackburn 1 Man City 1

Tue Aug 26 2003

Leeds 2 Southampton 0
Leicester 0 Middlesbrough 0
Portsmouth 1 Bolton 1
Charlton 1 Everton 2

Wed Aug 27 2003

Arsenal 2 Aston Villa 0
Liverpool 2 Tottenham 0
Man Utd 4 Wolves 0

Saturday 23 August 2003

Newcastle v Man Utd 1-3
Bolton v Blackburn 0-2
Chelsea v Leicester 3-0
Everton v Fulham 1-1
Man City v Portsmouth 2-0
Southampton v Birmingham 1-1
Tottenham v Leeds 0-1
Wolves v Charlton 1-2

Sun Aug 24 2003

Aston Villa v Liverpool 0-1
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 1-1

Mon Aug 25 2003

Blackburn v Man City 2-2

Tue Aug 26 2003

Leeds v Southampton 0-1
Leicester v Middlesbrough 1-1
Portsmouth v Bolton 1-0
Charlton v Everton 1-1

Wed Aug 27 2003

Arsenal v Aston Villa 1-0
Liverpool v Tottenham 2-0
Man Utd v Wolves 4-0

Newcastle 1-3 Man Utd

Bolton 1-2 Blackburn

Chelsea 4-1 Leicester

Everton 2-0 Fulham

Man City 3-1 Portsmouth

Southampton 2-2 Birmingham

Tottenham 0-3 Leeds

Wolves 2-0 Charlton

Aston Villa 1-1 Liverpool

Middlesbrough 0-3 Arsenal

Blackburn 2-0 Man City

Leeds 1-0 Southampton

Leicester 1-1 Middlesbrough

Portsmouth 2-1 Bolton

Charlton 0-2 Everton

Arsenal 3-0 Aston Villa

Liverpool 3-0 Tottenham

Man Utd 4-1 Wolves

Fucking hell - I'm top of this AND the fantasy league. Am I some sort of football genius?

Sadly not. I'm aware it won't last beyond next week.

Newcastle 2 v Man Utd 3
Bolton 2 v Blackburn 2
Chelsea 3 v Leicester 1
Everton 1 v Fulham 1
Man City 2 v Portsmouth 0
Southampton 2 v Birmingham 1
Tottenham 2 v Leeds 0
Wolves 1 v Charlton 1

Sun Aug 24 2003

Aston Villa 0 v Liverpool 2
Middlesbrough 1 v Arsenal 3

Mon Aug 25 2003

Blackburn 1 v Man City 0

Tue Aug 26 2003

Leeds 1 v Southampton 2
Leicester 1 v Middlesbrough 1
Portsmouth 0 v Bolton 1
Charlton 1 v Everton 2

Wed Aug 27 2003

Arsenal 3 v Aston Villa 0
Liverpool 2 v Tottenham 0
Man Utd 5 v Wolves 0

Newcastle v Man Utd = 1-2
Bolton v Blackburn = 1-2
Chelsea v Leicester = 3-1
Everton v Fulham = 1-0
Man City v Portsmouth = 2-1

Southampton v Birmingham = 0-1
Tottenham v Leeds = 0-0
Wolves v Charlton = 1-1

Aston Villa v Liverpool = 0-1
Middlesbrough v Arsenal = 1-3

Blackburn v Man City = 2-0

Leeds v Southampton = 2-1
Leicester v Middlesbrough = 1-1
Portsmouth v Bolton = 0-0
Charlton v Everton = 0-0

Arsenal v Aston Villa = 2-0
Liverpool v Tottenham = 2-1
Man Utd v Wolves = 4-1

Newcastle 2 Man Utd 3
Bolton 1 Blackburn 2
Chelsea 4 Leicester 1
Everton 1 Fulham 0
Man City 2 Portsmouth 1
Southampton 1 Birmingham 0
Tottenham 0 Leeds 0
Wolves 0 Charlton 0

Aston Villa 0 Liverpool 2
Middlesbrough 0 Arsenal 2

Blackburn 2 Man City 3

Leeds 1 Southampton 1
Leicester 0 Middlesbrough 0
Portsmouth 1 Bolton 0
Charlton 0 Everton 1

Arsenal 3 Aston Villa 1
Liverpool 2 Tottenham 1
Man Utd 5 Wolves 0

according to the grauniad start of season guide 1-0 was the most common result last season, 13% of all games, whereas only 21 matches ended 0-0 good to see i am solid mid-table in both competitions at the mo...

haha the only result I got right last time was the one i didn't predict 0-0 for. this will not deflect me from my strategy this week (altho' i see Martin's way ahead of me), however i need to ponder this wk's exceptions (2 this wk obv)...

I just thought that if I was leaning towards that kind of low score, maybe a draw, with the extra bonus points I might as well go all the way to 0-0.

Newcastle 1-2 Man Utd
Bolton 0-1 Blackburn
Chelsea 3-0 Leicester
Everton 2-1 Fulham
Man City 3-1 Portsmouth
Southampton 2-2 Birmingham
Tottenham 1-1 Leeds
Wolves 1-1 Charlton

Aston Villa 0-2 Liverpool
Middlesbrough 1-3 Arsenal

Blackburn 2-2 Man City

Leeds 2-3 Southampton
Leicester 0-2 Middlesbrough
Portsmouth 2-2 Bolton
Charlton 1-1 Everton

Arsenal 3-1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 3-1 Tottenham
Man Utd 4-0 Wolves

Newcastle v Man Utd 2-3
Bolton v Blackburn 1-3
Chelsea v Leicester 4-0
Everton v Fulham 2-1
Man City v Portsmouth 1-1
Southampton v Birmingham 1-0
Tottenham v Leeds 0-0
Wolves v Charlton 0-2

Sun Aug 24 2003

Aston Villa v Liverpool 1-3
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 1-0

Mon Aug 25 2003

Blackburn v Man City 2-1

Tue Aug 26 2003

Leeds v Southampton 1-1
Leicester v Middlesbrough 1-1
Portsmouth v Bolton 2-1
Charlton v Everton 0-3

Wed Aug 27 2003

Arsenal v Aston Villa 4-0
Liverpool v Tottenham 3-1
Man Utd v Wolves 6-1

Saturday 23 August 2003
Newcastle 2 Man Utd 2
Bolton 1 Blackburn 1
Chelsea 3 Leicester 0
Everton 1 Fulham 0
Man City 3 Portsmouth 1
Southampton 2 Birmingham 0
Tottenham 0 Leeds 0
Wolves 1 Charlton 2
Sun Aug 24 2003
Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 1
Middlesbrough 2 Arsenal 3
Mon Aug 25 2003
Blackburn 2 Man City 2
Tue Aug 26 2003
Leeds 2 Southampton 1
Leicester 1 Middlesbrough 0
Portsmouth 2 Bolton 1
Charlton 2 Everton 0
Wed Aug 27 2003
Arsenal 2 Aston Villa 1
Liverpool 3 Tottenham 0
Man Utd 2 Wolves 0

Well done on organising all this, stevem. Sounds like a lot of work.

Newcastle 0 Man Utd 3
Bolton 1 Blackburn 2
Chelsea 2 Leicester 0
Everton 1 Fulham 2
Man City 1 Portsmouth 1
Southampton 2 Birmingham 1
Tottenham 0 Leeds 0
Wolves 1 Charlton 2

Aston Villa 0 Liverpool 1
Middlesbrough 1 Arsenal 3

Blackburn 2 Man City 0
Leeds 0 Southampton 2
Leicester 0 Middlesbrough 0
Portsmouth 2 Bolton 0
Charlton 1 Everton 2

Arsenal 2 Aston Villa 0
Liverpool 1 Tottenham 1
Man Utd 5 Wolves 0

Newcastle 1 Man Utd 3
Bolton 1 Blackburn 2
Chelsea 4 Leicester 0
Everton 0 Fulham 0
Man City 4 Portsmouth 2
Southampton 2 Birmingham 1
Tottenham 0 Leeds 0
Wolves 1 Charlton 2
Aston Villa 0 Liverpool 2
Middlesbrough 1 Arsenal 3
Blackburn 2 Man City 2
Leeds 1 Southampton 1
Leicester 0 Middlesbrough 0
Portsmouth 2 Bolton 0
Charlton 1 Everton 1
Arsenal 2 Aston Villa 0
Liverpool 2 Tottenham 1
Man Utd 4 Wolves 0

Writing with a nosebleed from the heady heights of an early UEFA Cup qualification place (it'll never last if I keep predicting partisanly....)

Saturday 23 August 2003
Newcastle 1 Man Utd 3
Bolton 1 Blackburn 2
Chelsea 4 Leicester 0
Everton 2 Fulham 0
Man City 3 Portsmouth 1
Southampton 2 Birmingham 1
Tottenham 1 Leeds 0
Wolves 1 Charlton 1

Sun Aug 24 2003
Aston Villa 2 Liverpool 1
Middlesbrough 1 Arsenal 3

Mon Aug 25 2003
Blackburn 1 Man City 2

Tue Aug 26 2003
Leeds 2 Southampton 0
Leicester 1 Middlesbrough 0
Portsmouth 1 Bolton 2
Charlton 0 Everton 0

Wed Aug 27 2003
Arsenal 3 Aston Villa 1
Liverpool 1 Tottenham 1 (despite all logic)
Man Utd 4 Wolves 0

Saturday 23 August 2003
Newcastle 2 Man Utd 4
Bolton 0 Blackburn 0
Chelsea 0 Leicester 0
Everton 0 Fulham 0
Man City 0 Portsmouth 0
Southampton 0 Birmingham 0
Tottenham 0 Leeds 0
Wolves 0 Charlton 0

Sun Aug 24 2003
Aston Villa 0 Liverpool 0
Middlesbrough 0 Arsenal 1

Mon Aug 25 2003
Blackburn 0 Man City 0

Tue Aug 26 2003
Leeds 1 Southampton 2
Leicester 0 Middlesbrough 0
Portsmouth 0 Bolton 0
Charlton 0 Everton 0

Wed Aug 27 2003
Arsenal 0 Aston Villa 0
Liverpool 0 Tottenham 0
Man Utd 1 Wolves 0

hmmm 14 points so far! At least Spurs won, always said Freddie was a good signing.

it's the half-time report, and the scores are...

64 - pj miller
56 - robin
55 - benjamin
52 - james ball
51 - david beckhouse
50 - daniel
50 - mark h
48 - stevem
43 - greig
41 - chris b
41 - darren
40 - matt dc
39 - tom ewing
38 - mark c
38 - martin skidmore
35 - zebedee
34 - matt coastal
30 - carsmile steve
30 - william swygart
30 - billy dods
29 - haikunym
26 - gareth
24 - bert
22 - scott pl
22 - dom
18 - pinefox
17 - jel
17 - sean g
6 - kilian

dom, sean and bert will rue not entering this round i think.

dom't forget for the remaining games you will earn double points for all exactly correct predictions

Can't claim extra points, I know, but my prediction above that Anelka would score the winner on 87 minutes was pretty extraordinary.

My prediction that the lads would balls up the first league game at the new ground didn't take much prophetic vision, though.

No correct predictions whatsoever for me this weekend, but I was four minutes away from one last night. Those double points will make a hell of a difference to anyone getting it right this week.

I was the sam James, in fact I was so knackered last night that when I first looked at my predictions I thought I'd got last night's right, but then it was " oh yeah......bugger."

"it's the half-time report, and the scores are...
64 - pj miller"

This is the happiest day of my life :-)

carsmile steve was the only one to benefit significantly from last night's excellent game, a full 20 points for he - but kudos to Daniel and his spooky prediction regharding Anelka's 87th minute winner

damn, I had a 2-2 prediction for yesterday, as well. Perhaps the Charlton-Everton halftime score will hold up...

...or perhaps not.

Portsmouth are Top .........tonight
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/premiership.html

Ooh, I picked two of the 0-0s tonight! That will score well for me!

yes indeed, tonight has done interesting things to the leaderboard...

name	pts
zebedee carsmile steve pj miller greig matt dc martin skid billy dods benjamin robin william swy james ball gareth stevem daniel mark h david beck chris b darren tom ewing mark c haikunym matt coastal scott pl pinefox bert dom jel sean g kilian	81 76 67 63 63 62 61 58 56 56 55 55 54 53 53 51 50 47 42 41 35 34 25 24 24 22 17 17 15

ok that totally fucked up, hang on

Can you check my score, Steve? I thought I'd picked up rather more than that in this latest round.

you are correct, i gave everyone 20 points for the 0-0 draws instead of 30. this was bound to happen sooner or later. apologies, re-calculations in progress...

update

101 = zebedee
96 = carsmile steve
82 = martin skidmore
73 = greig
73 = matt dc
67 = pj miller
66 = william swygart
65 = gareth
61 = billy dods
58 = benjamin

but don't expect another double points bonanza of this type for a while after this!

Bah!

How come you get more points for a 0-0 than anything else?

i think i have proved my point. i will play sensibly from now on.

You might start playing sensibly now zebedee, but I think I'll start doing 0-0's myself from now on.

two 0-0s on one night is still not that common

i may put the 15 points for a 0-0 to the public vote soon though...

If there was fun in getting the 0-0 somehow, I'd be up for it. But if it makes people less likely to predict 6-5 results, say, then it's a bad thing. I'd offer bonus points for correctly predicting games with 5 or more goals, maybe?

not a bad idea, but 6-5 is far more unlikely than 0-0 - at least people are getting lots of points this way

Yes, thus enabling them to leapfrog me :-(

I must have missed the nil-nil rule, because I genuinely think most matches are going to end nil-nil, but that's because I'm a miserable sod and I don't want to appear miserable, so I predict two-nil thrillers instead.

the 0-0 extra points rule was just added to provide some sort of consolation for when games disappointingly end 0-0. of course its possible for a 0-0 draw to be a thriller but generally, we want goals.

i'm guessing only 1 in 10 matches ends 0-0, could be an even lower frequency though. the mad thing is because there were a couple on Tuesday night people a few people got as much as 60 points just for predicting two correct results!

I'm aware of the extra points for 0-0 so have leant extra hard in that direction when it seemed reasonably likely. I'd get rid of the extra points there, but you must let us know in advance of a round, not after we have predicted.

the 0-0 extra points thing stays for now, unless it really does occur often enough to cheapen the whole shebang

5 or more goals in the match, Steve, not by 1 team.l

that evil genius zebedee got lucky this week - i'm now a bit concerned about the massive gulf between the top and bottom but i think things will balance out a bit more sooner or later - there's nothing to stop someone predicting all games as 0-0 or 1-0 or whatever but it just so happens you got quite a few goalless draws in the same week it was double points for correct results - annoying coincidence (unless you're zebedee)

Also, that would be completely boring.

I have two suggestions from the wilderness of my BRANE:

1) Name one random match the BIG MATCH and give double points for that match only. The excitement will be unbearable.

OR

2) Allow us to each pick a match and PLAY OUR JOKER for double points, in a 'jeux sans frontieres' stylee. This is a bit complicated, but we will all CREAM OURSELVES on a weekly basis.

It's good anyway.

Anything with JOKERS is a good system as far as I'm concerned.

yeh i thought of that Joker idea as you describe - its a good one - probably good to have some weeks without a joker/bonus type thing at all but we can definitely deploy it from time to time

but don't forget...

premiership predictions - round 03

you've only got til saturday lunchtime...

Another idea I had - do any of the big websites (BBC Sky etc.) have any professional pundit predictions that run as far as actual scorelines? It could be fun to feed them in, more work for stevem though but his reward will be in heaven.

Tom, there's always Challenge Lawro: http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/challengelawro/index.shtml

yup, I'm on Challenge Lawro and doing abysmally. In fact if anyone is doing the bbc fantasy footie and isn't in a league already, drop me a note of yr pin and I'll put you in the Zurich style Premiership (I'm looking at you here Mr Jones)