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Which was designed to be right smack-dab between the North and the South.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Very blow-up-able.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

The National Air and Space Museum is kinda cool. Esp. when you're 12.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

It's pretty close to Ft Meade.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

August in the area can be kinda nice.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. Pretty lukewarm reaction. I actually am pretty fond of DC. The Metro kicks the ass of any other subway I've been on. Most of the museums are free. All of the touristy parts are very attractive. Due to building height regulations, you can find your way to the Washington Monument from anywhere downtown. Plus it's the Chocolate City.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah that's all true Nick but the traffic sucks.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I once had a rager of a Christmas party there.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

It's full of phallic symbols!

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

h - that's why you take the Metro, dumbass. Just kidding.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you for not posting pictures of Lady Bird Johnson, Pat Nixon, Betty Ford, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush or Laura Bush.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Diversity!
http://www.haringkids.com/keith/snap/pol/dc.jpg

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick - what if you're driving in from Richmond, then?

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

My ex's roomate had a huge signed framed photo of Nancy Reagan in his bedroom. It made me laugh and laugh.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil - You fly!

OH wait, only British people can fly.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah see I drove through D.C. (going from Charlottesville to Philly) a couple weeks ago and it sucked.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

wow do you like any place besides the south!

There's a good Chinese restaurant, I think on M St? Maybe not on M St. It's near there. It's good.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I like D.C.! The traffic just sucks.

Though actually, I consider D.C. and Maryland to be the South too.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a big discussion over this like Saturday night? Some people, right. I think it was decided that Maryland was NOT south because it was not Confederate. Or something, I wasn't paying that much attention to be honest with you.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Maryland, like Kentucky, was neutral during the Civil War. Which doesn't mean there weren't plenty of Confederates from there.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Well none of this implies that there weren't Confederate sympathizers in the North either. I don't really think Maryland qualifies even geographically as the South. As NA says, it's dead center.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

um, it's below the Mason-Dixon line.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

You know what? I'm not even going to have this conversation with you. You feel free to live in a world in which people consider D.C. "the South". The rest of us will keep talking about things we like in D.C. Is that sorted?

Anyway, I like Union Station.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

this is interesting (googled from some web site):

Maryland's Status During The American Civil War

The fact that the original Mason-Dixon Line ran along the Maryland/Pennsylvania border might lead one to think that Maryland was a Confederate state during the American Civil War. It wasn't - Maryland fought on the side of the Union. However, Maryland was a slave state and many Marylanders served in the Confederate army. I'm grateful to Amy Mayer who brought this point to my attention.

Susan Travis kindly sent me this information which further explains Maryland's position:

As a native of Maryland now living in Georgia, it is nice to have some backup arguments to my assertions that Maryland is, indeed, part of the South!

In regards to Maryland being or not being in the Confederacy during the Civil War, there are a couple of points which may be of interest to you. Maryland did remain a part of the Union, that is true. However, there were very strong Southern sympathies in Maryland during the War, and she probably would have seceded if she had been allowed to do so. If Maryland had seceded, the railroad lines into Washington, D.C., the Union's capital, would have been completely cut off, thus prohibiting messages and supplies from getting in and out of D.C. The Union troops actually placed cannon in Baltimore facing, not out to the harbour as might be expected, but rather on top of a hill (known as Federal Hill) facing into the city to keep the troops and citizens in line! As with any border state, troops were raised in Maryland for both the Union and Confederate sides. I hope this helps even further to clear up some of the confusion about Maryland's status during The Great Unpleasantness (as it is often referred to here in the South)!

Harris P. Murphy sent me a message expressing another view of Maryland's status during the American Civil War which demonstrates that passions still run deep on this question:

Having reviewed your site regarding the South and Maryland's place therein, I feel compelled to write and correct an inaccuracy. Maryland was not a "Union" state during the Civil War, as many revisionist historians would have us believe. It was a decidedly pro-Southern state that was held in the Union illegally, by force.
Her governor was under house arrest. The writ of habeas corpus was suspended, and those members of the legislature who would have voted to secede - a majority, see below - were jailed. Additionally, the occupying Federal forces had their guns trained on the city of Baltimore. Prior to being occupied, the citizens and the legislature provided clear indication of Maryland's stance with regard to both the state's Southern inclination and secession. In the presidential election preceding the war, Maryland's votes were almost identical to those of the other states of the upper South. See "A Southern Star For Maryland". Moreover, the full legislature's last resolution with regard to the issue of secession was to "cast her lot with that of her sister state of Virginia." In sum, Maryland was, is, and will always be a Southern State, despite the best efforts of the revisionist Yankees who seek now, as then, to occupy her.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/postcards/washingtondc2.jpg

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

WEll, ya learn somethin' every day.

Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

anyway, the last time I was in D.C. for a visit (and not driving through), I saw the 4th of July fireworks, which were pretty great. And there's a lot of cool stuff to do in and around the D.C. Metro area.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Union Station is pretty sweet.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.ping.be/~bliek/dccab.jpg

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Union Station is really pretty, I took lots of pictures of it but they all came out blurry, I think because I was tired and shaky when I took the pix.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

D.C. has many Ethiopian restaurants, and I sure do like Ethiopian food. The bread is the texture of human skin.

quincie, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

*fears*

Thy Lethal Zen Ned (Ned), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean that in a good way.

quincie, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

did I mention that I love DC? yeah, I did. Eastern Market, Rock Creek Park, U Street, the Ellington Bridge, Mount Pleasant, K Street, I even love K Street, I tell you. :)

This site has lots of great photos of DC, of the neighborhoods and such, not the usual tourist sights.
dc photos: "The US government is shut down and schools are closed -- but the beer must get through."

daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing that excited me most about Washington D.C. was being able to see Washington D.C. license plates. You NEVER see those anywhere else in the country! (ok, not NEVER, but they're rarer than most)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I live between DC and Baltimore...i choose Baltimore. Nuff said.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

D.C.'s newer license plates read: "Taxation Without Representation." What other state/non-state has a cheeky license plate?

quincie, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember when Wisconsin was looking for a phrase to put on their plates, and they were taking suggestions from people to vote on. One guy submitted: "Eat cheese or die" A parody of whatever state thinks we should live free...or whatever. I thought that was pretty witty, but alas my opinion does not count.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

That's New Hampshire. Live free or die. It seems pretty, like, bossy.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

:) This is why I refuse to give up my DC tags even after I moved away, though I have the old "Celebrate and Discover" plates. I've seen all of one other car w/DC tags here in southern New England.

Rhode Island, incidentally, now offers special Mr. Potato Head plates. what a weird state it is.

daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Rhode Island...Greatwhite. Its pyrotechnics reperations, i think.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I believe Lee's Antietam campaign led him to Maryland where he hoped buckets of confederates would flock to his cause. Or am I thinking Kirby Smiths Kentucky campaign? DC is fine with me.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Constitution Gardens on the Mall between the Vietnam Veterans memorial and the Washington Monument, just North of the Reflecting Pool, is the most beautifully landscaped urban park I've seen. Oh wait, now it's ruined because of the WWII memorial.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)


nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually ran into a really fun gay rights parade the one time I was in D.C.-- only other decent pride parade I've ever seen was in Paris, where they actually had can-can dancers on the floats. The Chicago one is just a headache for anyone who has to get downtown and nobody even wears anything cool. They just get really really really drunk and wear leis and piss in the streets.

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

actually now that I think about it, I miss the Pirate House.

hstencil, Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.homevideos.com/photoscomedy/beingthere.jpeg

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 August 2003 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.nbc4.com/news/17204642/detail.html
Commuter's Bike Considered Too 'Ugly' At Union Station

html tsar (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Sunday, 14 September 2008 23:10 (sixteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

The temperature has dropped like 15 degrees from where it was earlier today

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 00:27 (five years ago)


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