Willy Wonka remake coming soon

The fact that its produced by Pitt and Aniston does not augur well. Burton as director sounds more promising.

At the risk of sounding like a writer of a letter to Points of View, why oh why oh why can't they restore the original title of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory this time around?

(By the same token, I was never ALL that crazy about the first movie, beyond Gene Wilder himself and the unavoidable nostalgia bite. I liked the books much more.)

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I suppose the whole build-up thing with Charlie being the main character who finally finds the fabled Golden ticket lends itself much better to a TV serial than a film. in fact, I'm surprised the bbc haven't tackled it (maybe they have and I never heard about it). But then, hasn't the slot it would occupy...sunday afternoons, e.g. Lion the Witch & the Wardrobe, Brat Farrar ect ect disappeared now?

Come to think of it, I'm not sure. If not, that might be unfair of me -- two books are obviously going to leave more of an impression than a movie that only covers one of them. (I was also one of the only kids I knew who liked Glass Elevator more than Chocolate Factory, and who read Fantastic Mr Fox or Danny, Champion of the World -- so my Dahl opinions might be totally weird, I don't know.)

A Charlie/Wonka/etc miniseries -- BBC or whoever else could do a good job -- would be great. Surely no one would object to that! Much less chance of it being a remake of the movie than something that just happens to be based on the same source material.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4737975-3156,00.html

I haven't found the link, but someone on IMDB has it solid that he has signed for the part.

I like Burton more than many, perhaps; I liked Sleepy Hollow, for what it was, and loved Nightmare Before Christmas (although I saw it as a parent, and realized that has a lot of influence over how you watch movies). James and the Giant Peach came out decently, produced by Burton and directed by Selick, Burton's director on Nightmare. I'm not going to discount this project before seeing as trailer.

Weird that I remember those details -- ohh, and some kind of meat pie that had hard-boiled eggs in it -- and not the actual plot.

Fantastic Mr Fox was what Animal Farm reminded me of, when I read that later -- a very smart fox outsmarting the farmers, and it ends with this like self-sufficient animal utopia starting up underground ...

I'm sure you can still find those in decent country-town butchers' shops. Along with things like tripe and haslet.

and that

Johhnie Depp is always in atrocious films? name one good film he has been in ( don't say Edward bleedin Scissorhands)

i just cant see what both of these guys' reputations are built on.

Wooo. Now I need to get famous and I can ask you to ask her about a Danny movie! I think I'm starting to grok this networking thing.

also Christopher Walken was originally supposed to be Willy in the remake.

it avoids putting anyone in danger, it avoids the genuine sense of malice in the orginal, and it tacks on a family friendly happy ending with a really banal message thats why the movie was so good, wilders, it poisoned this fake setiment that infuses adults realtonships to children

and the set design, too much, too manic, too picturesque, and the father is still alive, and god is it awful

do they have beats & glitchy production?

also, i heard that the squirrels were real, trained. am i just gullible, or is that true? they sure looked real to me!

i liked the new oompa loompas better, as well. but missed some of the other songs.

I haven't seen the Wilder film in years, but some of the scenes felt exactly the same. Others felt completely hollow (which may have been the point sometimes). Why didn't Burton just make Charlie & the Great Glass Elevator, as (aside from Depp v. Wilder) he didn't really bring anything new to the story.

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Hang on, the IMDB is claiming that Doctor Wonka, easily the biggest difference to the first film, is not in the book at all?

I really like this but it shares the same faults as the first one in that there's a rather heavy handed puritan streak running through it like the letters in a Wonka bar. The Oompa Loompa's were like some Chris Cunningham/AFX Twin nightmare and had a greater sense of mischief, but still too much finger wagging.

I like Depp's portrayal rather more than Wilder's, a little stranger, more unpredictable and much funnier. I never could believe the way Wilder switched from rage to fatherly love in the original.

CJ otm about the Grandad looking like Dahl, I did a double take when I first saw him.

Watching the Rifftrax take on the original flick, I'm at the scene in the test labs. I'm remembering reading somewhere that Jon Pertwee was offered the Wonka role, but couldn't take it due to his other shooting schedule. The two things that make me remember this is that I see more Pertwee than Gene Wilder with 'Time is precious; you must never waste it' gag with the alarm clock, then cutting to him riding the mixing bike and singing.

Oh yeah, and the crushed velvet overcoat and large bowtie.

Also, there's far more ADR in this movie than I ever remembered. Like in every single scene, you can pick it out.

Are the Oompa Loompas in the remake a tribute to Flash Gordon?

original film's director Mel Stuart dead

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-mel-stuart-1928-2012

Prepare for the cursed object

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYmtRhKvmVE

lol if someone told me this movie had already been released and was a huge success/failure I would believe them.

The Hugh Grant Oompa-Loompa character already feels like a well-worn meme along the lines of "I Don't Always..." guy.

Just in time for Christmas 2019

It really does feel like it should be on a doublebill with Robert Downey Jr's Dolittle as a forgotbuster special.

I don't know if WB thought the IP would do the marketing for it, but I had no idea a) this was a musical and b) was from the director of the two "Paddington" films and c) had songs from Neil Hannon, which gives me more hope this could actually be good, even if I have no desire to see it. Though it does have Keegan-Michael Key, whose presence in anything apart from Jordan Peele is generally a bad omen.

seems to be getting good reactions from critics

yes, those paddington films are pretty much adored by tons of people... and i had no idea on the connection until reading the guardian review today. very odd marketing to not make that front and centre.

Pretty sure every trailer I've seen mentions "from the director of Paddington" and mentions a Harry Potter connection. I remember because the Paddington mention was the first time I became even mildly interested in this.

Yeah, but I was never going to watch the trailer, lol.

I quite liked this. My wife didn't, really.

It’s not v good

It’s terrific.

it strained so hard to be a classic, but the magic just wasn't there for me. without wonka's dark streak he's just twee, and it didn't help that almost every other character seemed to have been custom designed for a corresponding luvvie.

^ the only bit of Chalamet's performance that actually sparked anything is when he's presaging harshness, the "ladies and gentlemen, do _not_ eat the chocolate". The rest of the time it's good but not great, you can hear the gears turning.

It works a lot better when it's by the director of Paddington then when it's a prequel to Willy Wonka, the tweeness and procession of Ghosts / Horrible Histories alumni are a feature not a bug

Also an enjoyably magpieish eye for what to fill the other characters with: a little Matilda, a little Madame Thenardier.

i ... loved this? it's not very dahl-esque (ie no darkness to wonka at all) but it's very paddington/paul king and that was enough for me. songs range from fine to great (the comic songs are much better than the ballads). chalamet is miscast but tries very hard and sometimes succeeds at quirkiness/wistfulness. mostly i enjoyed the parade of british comedy pros doing their things, paterson joseph is the ringer but even matt lucas got some laughs out of me.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as "love", but I was very pleasantly surprised by how good this was, definitely the Paddington vibes helped this be more enjoyable.

the problems I had w/ it

1) you don't really get to see Wonka become who he'd be later, he seems already fully-formed already at the beginning of this film, just undiscovered. So it feels like a Forbes article titled "How Willy Wonka Rose to Power in the Chocolate Industry"

2) heavily auto-tuned songs since few people in this movie are trained singers. very robotic sounding.

otherwise, it was fairly inoffensive, if forgettable. I did like Calah Lane and (forgive me) Hugh Grant.

It was good enough to remind me of how much better Paddington and Paddington 2 were. There seemed to be a weakness in the core of the story which the film-makers tried to cover over with a surfeit of incident and star turns, with enough sub-plots (albeit hackneyed ones) for several movies and a stable of gifted actors not given enough space/material to work with.