just applied for my ideal job...now what?

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this job would be perfect for me and i am pretty confident i could do it. only, i'm not very confident that i will actually get it or even an interview based on past form. it's probably just down to the fact there will be the usual 'overwhelming number of applicants, which we never expected, i mean we're only a hugely successful online enterprise advertising the job on our website that gets thousands upon thousands of hits a day' and maybe i just don't stand out enough.

so while i now suffer the agonising wait to see if they like the cut of my jib, cheer me up with anecdotes about how you went for that dream job and actually got it (bonus points if you fucked the interview up completely and came away thinking you had no chance but then still got it) - plus any other general tips i should take note of?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

the other annoying thing was i first saw this job listed by a leading recruitment agency. but then i guessed which company the job was with went to their site and lo and behold it says 'we will not accept applications via agencies' - but i'm convinced it's the same job - so i applied both directly and via the agency.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I worked at the NHL for a number of years and basically invented the job I filled. I'm pretty sure I'm also responsible for interns getting paid there. Then I got laid off. I had a good three year run out of it tho.

I do my dream job now, though the freelance opprotunities are thin sometimes. Yyuck.

ModJ, Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Long story short, it can happen, and apparently quite often.

ModJ, Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

freelancing is cool but not enough for me, i wanna be a corporate whore-slave again

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Steve when I finally land my dream job I'll be sure to post it. Hopefully once art school is finished I will get my dream job.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Good luck stevem, hope you get it! Who is the job with? (I work in the same game as you, so I'm intrigued.)

Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, funny steve.. i just applied to my dream job too. wonder how long it takes for these big companies to respond to applications.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Good luck Steve! I don't have a dream job, apart from the dream of not having to work, so I can't answer! But, yeah, hope you get it dude!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

actually i have several dream jobs, but this is a big one - i think the dreamiest part is the salary

if i hear about this job at all it probably won't be until the end of next month anyway, so on with the waiting game

and cheers all, jel i thought you worked for West London Tourist Board?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm just a volunteer for the WLTB!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

In my recent experience, if the company is going to get back to you it does so within two weeks after you submit your resume.

In the meantime I totally feel for you; this summer I applied several times for a couple of jobs that struck me as ideal, and never heard from either employer.
:^P

Here's hoping your your application is more successful than mine have been!

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

> In my recent experience, if the company is going to get back to you
> it does so within two weeks after you submit your resume.

in my recent experience you will hear nothing. ever. 8(

last time, about 4 years ago, i went on an interview. interviewer wasn't wearing shoes or socks, rest of staff i saw were sat there complaining about the heat. but was great work and nicely situated. was meeting up with friends that night, some pub in camden near the camden falcon, JtN was there. was rambling about job and how good it was and how i'd never get it, 15 people interviewed for 3 places etc. anyway, got the job, spent 3 great years there (4th year it went to shit but hey...).

unfortunately it's not 1999 any more.

andy

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

try to find someone who works there, ingratiate yourself, find out who the hiring manager is, email them directly. This is seriously the only way to get a job, because HR people are idiots and they screen all resumes for pretty much every company. Did I mention that they're idiots? They are.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i just got hired for my ideal job and by my ideal company, but i got in by doing an internship even though i was no longer a student and actually working full-time (i worked part-time to take the internship) so i don't know if that is very helpful. i went after the internship as though it were a job...dropping off my resume at the company in person, following up on my interview with handwritten thank you cards, etc.

if you don't hear from them within a week, you should definitely call/e-mail/fax and inquire.

good luck!!!

fiofio (fiona), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

don't closing dates for applications mean anything then (except after the date)?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd also been convinced that if I was to contact the hiring manager or equivalent directly they would just instantly ignore my application because I had not gone through the proper channels. I wonder how many people do take this option and succeed. I really want this job, but I have no idea how to actually GET it now.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

A friend of mine got an interview at Saatchi purely because she harassed the hell out of them. They mentioned at her interview that they really liked her initiative. In the end, she was not hired because they decided they wanted someone with experience at Saatchi, but considering that she is now working for a US Congressman, I would say it was their loss.

Go for it. They won't know your application from the proverbial Adam's if you don't draw some attention to it.

The other thing about looking for the ideal job is: apply directly to a company you want to work for even though they may not have any openings at the time and follow up like mad so you'll be in their heads. By the time an opening does come up, they may think of you. Because when a position is posted online, the opening has already been lurking around for a long time.

fiofio (fiona), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there are some nice little laws that suggest they HAVE to offer you an interview if you meet the person spec etc on paper. But I have never heard of any company that was remotely troubled by this in reality...

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 08:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I applied for my ideal job & got the interview which included a sort of audition in front of a sort of jury, this I screwed up badly (I thought), completely mixing up the stuff I was to say & do so it must've come across as mad rambling, and I almost peed in my pants because I was so nervous & my hands were shaking the intire interview & I was sweating and said incredibly stupid things - but - I got the job for some mysterious reason! (I really don't know why, only explanation is that everyone else fucked up even more than I did.) So - keep your fingers crossed, you never know.
I would just call them if I were you, you've nothing to lose.

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 28 August 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay Steve! Good luck fella - is this the job we were talking about on MSN the other day?

*keeps everything crossed*

j0e (j0e), Thursday, 28 August 2003 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay I may try calling the woman next week with some excuse like 'just wondered when the closing date was/when can I expect to hear back'. At least the application was made to a specific person.

Last job I had an interview for was by phone only. I'd made it to the last 18 applicants but they asked me questions like 'what is the keyboard shortcut for...' for software i know really well...except for bloody keyboard shortcuts i never use. naturally i didn't get the job even though everything else had gone really well. what annoys me the most is that when you get rejected and then try to ask them where you went wrong they just ignore you completely (though in this case i guess it was obvious where i went wrong)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 28 August 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there are some nice little laws that suggest they HAVE to offer you an interview if you meet the person spec etc on paper

i can confirm that they are clearly ignoring the arse off this little law

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 28 August 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

There is no such law. There is equal ops legislation which is far short of law, but breaching its principles and guidelines can leave you open to discrimination lawsuits (though these are always hard to win)(especially if you are not in a disadvantaged group, and Steve isn't). Following equal ops rules means you have as objective criteria as possible, and this can include a 'pass mark', but you are not obliged to interview an arbitrarily large number of applicants - you can just interview the best 5/10/whatever.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there are some nice little laws that suggest they HAVE to offer you an interview if you meet the person spec etc on paper. But I have never heard of any company that was remotely troubled by this in reality...

-- Archel

Time Bastard Out certainly didn't. I mean it was writing about shopping in London, duh. More fool them.


Although Steve I got the M!xmag job straight out of college and pretty much straight off the dancefloor at Gatecrasher (please don't take the piss), so at the time it really was my dream job. Apparently my old journalism teachers are still using me as an example of dream jobs actually happening.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 28 August 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

that's nice and re-assuring to know, and i wouldn't dream of taking the piss, unless you were wearing silver face paint and a tiara made out of glowsticks at the time...

i may have another freelance gig at least, and another couple of good-sounding jobs to go for

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 28 August 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I have an actual interview for my actual dream job (more or less) today. It is fucking SCARY! In some ways it would be easier if I did NOT get an offer because then I wouldn't have to choose between the more-or-less dream job and my current less-than-dream-but-not-at-all-bad-in-fact-rather-cushy job.

Good luck and cross your fingers for me, too!

quincie, Friday, 29 August 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Good luck Steve.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't you like me, Ronan? Do you not want me to have a happy and fullfilling job, too?

*sniff*

quincie, Friday, 29 August 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean FULFILLING -- ONE "l". Jesus, to think I'm interviewing for an editing job. . .

quincie, Friday, 29 August 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

hehe, sorry I only read the top line. good luck quincie! now everyone will want some good wishes

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate writing cover letters as well. On my latest one I tried to be a bit more pushy and put 'I am wondering if I could speak to you directly next week with regards to an interview' or similar. This is like ending a first date saying 'So let's have sex next time yeah?'

stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I think i worked out why you didn't get that Time Out job Anna. They already have an Anne Fielding working in books, and were probably worried they would mix you up. Something professional like that.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I applied to my ideal job they. They rejected me without interview. They sent the rejection to a misspelt version of me in the wrong postcode with no house number, how it got to me I don't know. HR people are incompetent, Royal Mail appears not to be.

Ed (dali), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Why do you think they rejected you Ed? I want to know why I am not getting invited to interviews and what I can do/need to do to rectify this. Maybe it's something to do with how somedays I'm not sure I want to actually do the jobs I'm going for but it seems the best thing for me to do given my skills and experience so far. Maybe they can 'smell' this from my applications?

stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sure that's like a swimming pool factor though - once you're in you adjust and love it.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)


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