Picture Thread: Objects Of Small-You Desire

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http://users2.ev1.net/~rik1138/MB/MB-BigTrak.jpg

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

wtf?!?!

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

oooooohhhh! I remember mine! It was my teddy bear for months!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Total bug-eyed envy of playground c.1980 (none of them ever actually worked at least that is what I told myself when my parents wouldnt buy one)

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

what IS that??

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.majormattmason.net/gif/6331f.jpg

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

it's like a big space-age tractor thingy that you could control by pressing the telephone-esque buttons on the back. Problem was, it always seemed to move faster than a little kid could catch up to it to change the direction with the buttons.

hstencil, Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.datamath.org/Edu/Images/Dataman.jpg

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah for the days when everything had those long swoopy yellow-orange-red-black stripes

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(i wasn't even sure if callisto had existed or i'd dreamed him until lovely google camr to my rescue!!)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Nate, you like the German flag, obviously.

hstencil, Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JCLT.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

re: the Big Trak, you were supposed to "program" it. you could tell it to go several feet, turn, go several feet, reverse, turn around etc... It was awesome!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.ocremix.org/images/systems/segagenesis.jpg

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"MAJOR MATT MASON'S FRIEND FROM JUPITER: THE MYSTERIOUS ALIEN WITH ADVANCED MENTAL POWERS!"

*goes and looks up Callisto on Friendster*

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

German flags remind me of Porsches, maybe, which brings me neatly to this:

http://www.seibertron.com/cotm/200207/Jazz_t002.jpg

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

my friend used to hide cigars in his blue monster doll, it had a hole in the armpit. (he was seven at the time). that nose would really hurt when the toy as a whole was used as a weapon in pillow fights.it was shortly banned after the old red friend hit the carpet.

chicken tonight (chicken tonight), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.netassoc.net/ultima/images/u6cover.JPG

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Lord British! Who hell he?

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.toymania.com/news/images/0702_toynamisdcc2.jpg

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

A close pal of J. Jesus American III

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I wanted a Batmobile.

http://www.commercial-photos.com/original-batmobile.jpg

I wanted a sea monster for a friend.

http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/SSM/pcSSM.jpg

I wanted to do something, who knows what, with Wonder Woman.

http://www.geocities.com/dudleynightshade/eerieeyes.jpg

I didn't have a very realism-oriented childhood.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.streetplay.com/store/images/snoopyconemachine.jpg

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i really fancied wonder woman,but your picture won;t show on my computer. there's an ITV weather girl who looks like her. guilt.

chicken tonight (chicken tonight), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/thumbs_aloft/pocketeers/pics/steeple.jpg

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

looking at the Snoopy snow cone machine reminds me of this game I always think of when I see the Ice Snoop. It was this Dracula game that had a vampire with a clock and you would stick a finger in the mouth and 2 red dots would "bite" you. Does anyone remember this game? I so want it.

Carey (Carey), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.a-arca.com/transcon/transcon2002_images/transcon2002_images_03.jpg

fortress maximus. I heard he wasn't even available in the UK=>my plan for finally proving the existence/nonexistence of santa=>I never got it and could never decide if it was because there was no santa or because I forgotten about it by christmas.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

When small (alas, the box is a newer version):

http://www.eparent.com/toys/images/perfection.gif

When somewhat larger:

http://www.telespiele.de/atari/atari-vcs.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

The Snoopy Sno-Cone Machine reminds me -- this is the one food item I was never, under any circumstances, allowed to have when I was a kid. Not even if I bought it "with my own money." So naturally I wanted it like nobody's business.

http://theimaginaryworld.com/tic523.jpg

I also wanted to go to a Red Sox game

http://www.roadtrips.com/images/baseball/boston.jpg

("You're too young!")

And be a space chemist. (No image available.)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.majormattmason.net/gif/6339.jpg

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.nineiron.co.uk/VenusianDeathCell.jpg

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember it Carey!

dengo, I saw the Snoopy snow cone maker in Kay Bee last year. You can still get it! Fulfill all your childhood desires!

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.majormattmason.net/gif/6353.jpg

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah "small you" haha, i am going to remortgage my flat tomorrow morning!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

MAJOR MATT MASON:

#6380 VOYAGE TO GALAXY III SET
Copyright 1969--first year available 1970. Product never released.

This was one of two items listed in the 1970 Mattel dealer's catalog that has never been found. No proof or clues to substantiate its existence have turned up either. The catalog lists this as a gift set that includes Major Matt Mason and his Cat Trac, the Star Seeker and the non existing "Or" with his Orbitor from Orion. This set was most likely never produced.

PACKAGE DESCRIPTION:
Though no box is pictured the individual toys are. And the package is described as being 12" x 12" x 21 5/8".

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.thehatstore.com/thehatstore/hatpages/s36.jpg

http://cyclurba.free.fr/pbi/Atari%20console.jpg
(Cool kids had Atari. We had Pong and Odyssey^2, because my father was a professional nerd.)

I knew very quickly what I was destined to do:

http://www.kconline.com/kurtkelsey/toys/img/oven.gif

http://www.emuunlim.com/doteaters/breakout.gif
And my God, who didn't want their own arcade game in their bedroom?

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I also really wanted to be Orion Quest's friend.

Oh, that picture doesn't seem to be showing, it's the arcade version of BREAKOUT!

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

http://members.cox.net/maxwellm/Images/karza.jpg

Never got one, neither.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm 32 and I badly wanted a Snoopy Sno-Cone machine when I was five. My mom even guilt-tripped me into taking part in a day-camp singing sketch by saying I wouldn't get a Snoopy Sno-Cone machine unless I performed for The Man.

Later, when I actually got one, she made me wait until the brick of water finally solidified into ice in our freezer, and this took, oh, a week or so. I think she was freaked out by the idea that the thing I'd use to shred ice could also concievably shred my tender pink flesh.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh man, Google Images just totally failed me. But this wasn't a "what I wanted" it was "what I was so so so happy I had." Hand-me-down toys, which couldn't be replaced really: Batman and Spider-Man action figures with magnets in their hands and feet so that you could make them ACTUALLY CLIMB WALLS if the walls were refrigerators.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.majormattmason.net/gif/6359.jpg

#6359 SCORPIO
Copyright 1969--first year available 1970

Scorpio was the last character introduced into the Major Matt Mason toyline. Unlike the other Mattel astronauts he is an 8 inch figure and is not compatible with other space equipment. Though he is also a "bendy" type figure, he is more like Captain Lazer being that he's unique in size and that he's battery operated.

One "AA" cell battery that fits under his head in his hard plastic torso powers a flashing bulb that illuminates his eyes and mouth. Of course he's really nothing like Captain Lazer with his looks of an insect -like being with "pink" skin and "purple" attire. Scorpio has a unique "green" colored plastic vest projector accessory that launches harmless Styrofoam search globes. Not a weapon but a useful knowledge seeking device operated by a purple air bellows that fires the globes throughout the solar system or your living room.

Yet his menacing looks give us the impression that he's an enemy or villain. According to the short story of Scorpio on the back of his 8" x 13" x 2" window box he is a friend and alley of Major Matt Mason from another far away galaxy. The box is dressed in "green" and "yellow" 1969 / 1970 graphics with scorpio visible behind a cellophane window in front of a plane "green" background wearing his "purple" arm and leg shields. The vest projector and bellows are hidden inside the other half of the box.

Scorpio is the toughest to find of all the Major Matt Mason characters. Being that he was made during the final year of the toyline there were very few of them as compared to the astronauts and other aliens. And good luck on finding him with any accessories, especially the arm and leg shields, these were easy to fall off and get lost.

Reprinted here for the first time on the web, is the complete legend of Scorpio that was included with the instructions for the figure. It's a large file but worth it!

http://www.majormattmason.net/gif/6359d.jpg

COMMENTS:
Scorpio is difficult to find loose, and almost impossible to find in boxed, mint condition. Examples have sold for well over $1,000 dollars making this one of the most sought after collectors items from the Matt Mason line.

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It's weird that Major MATT MASON has no enemies, really. The aliens are CALLISTO HIS FRIEND FROM JUPITER and this SCORPIO guy. The other humans are described as his "Space Buddies".

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.jeanscollectibles.com/feelfreesoap.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

That's because it's space propaganda, mark, just like E.T. and Cocoon.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://img.lugnet.com/display.cgi?set/town/lego6390.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Bastard.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://base58.com/ilx/lego_monorail.jpg

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I had that.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/_biotron_/original/rtglow.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

in space no one can see u r all gay

(i wonder is that why i liked callisto so much — apart from the obvious lizardly hottness!! — cz i always had a thing for "companionship"...?)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

http://users.fairfieldi.com/~layne/bh1.JPG

Twenty years later, and I am still bitter.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, I found this http://home.arcor.de/robot_collection/images/Robot38.jpg photo of a little funny robot ['dingbot'] I or my brother had when small.

I also got a kind of remote control robot w/ perspex dome on top and everything for a christmas but it never worked so it had to be swapped. for what I cannot remember. this is off topic but OK.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

slutsky, I had a verbot! I saved up for it, since I wasn't patient enough to save up for Omnibot. It was very cool for about a month, and then some of the novelty wore off and it was also less responsive for some reason.

(I had dingbot, too.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://members.lycos.nl/frx/zoids/gojulas.gif

stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

What's a verbot? I'm intrigued. I was actually considering ebaying an Omnibot earlier this year for a movie, but thankfully or not I never got around to it.

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.djhobby.com/catalog/images/ERE837530.jpg

The hilariously-named "Erector" set.

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't the first robot you posted a verbot? If not, they're close -- same makers as the Omnibot, etc., but smaller and basically just a robot-shaped voice-activated radio-controlled car.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone remember those tesseracting tiles you could connect to build stuff? they were called Polygons or something?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just thinking about those! Or maybe it was something else, those clear plastic bubbly things.

Tep: I thought that was an Omnibot! Oh no oh NO!

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh dear. Maybe when they made the new Omnibot, they took the parts from the old one and added the voice recognition thing?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate fun.

New York Times, August 31, 2003
I Don't Want to Grow Up!
By CHRISTOPHER NOXON

It's fair to say that the singer-songwriter who calls herself Gwendolyn never thought her band, the Goodtime Gang, would appeal to anyone over the age of, say, 7. A typical performance includes covers of the preschool standards "Bingo" and "The Itsy Bitsy Spider" and original compositions that tackle topics like human anatomy, the importance of sharing and bugs.

So it was with some surprise that Gwendolyn, who is 28 and performs in a Raggedy Ann dress, cartoonish pigtails and knee-high socks, found herself one recent evening in a packed Los Angeles nightclub performing for a crowd of fans whose idea of a stiff drink extends beyond undiluted o.j. Many in the audience sat cross-legged on the floor, cocktails perched on bobbing knees. Some sang along.

The performance was part of a bill that began with an elaborate puppet show and ended with an appearance by the Trachtenburg Family Slideshow Players, a "conceptual art rock band" from New York, which includes a 9-year-old girl on drums. For Gwendolyn, who has no children of her own but who says her songs for children are inspired by "a 4-year-old kid inside me," performing children's music for an audience of grown-ups was more than just a hipster lark — it was liberating.

"All the inner children of these adults are suddenly speaking up and saying, `Hey wait — what about us?' " she said. " `It's our turn to have some fun.' "

From childless fans of kiddie music to the grown-up readers of "Harry Potter," inner children are having fun all over. Whether they are buying cars marketed to consumers half their age, dressing in baby-doll fashions or bonding over games like Twister and kickball, a new breed of quasi adult is co-opting the culture of children as never before. Most have busy lives with adult responsibilities, respectable jobs and children of their own. They are not stunted adolescents. They are something else: grown-ups who cultivate juvenile tastes in products and entertainment. Call them rejuveniles.

Celebrated by market researchers and fretted over by social scientists, rejuveniles come in all ages but are mostly a product of the urban upper classes (free time and disposable income being essential in their lifestyle). Evidence of their presence is widespread. According to Nielsen Media research, more adults 18 to 49 watch the Cartoon Network than watch CNN. More than 35 million people have caught up with long-lost school pals on the Web site Classmates.com. ("There's something about signing on to Classmates.com that makes you feel 16 again," the "60 Minutes II" correspondent Vicki Mabrey reported.) Fuzzy pajamas with attached feet come in adult sizes at Target, along with Scoobie Doo underpants. The average age of video game players is now 29, up from 18 in 1990, according to the Entertainment Software Association. Hello Kitty's cartoon face graces toasters. Sea Monkeys come in an executive set.

And a big hit on Broadway this summer is "Avenue Q," which stars googly-eyed puppets grappling with career disappointment, maxed credit cards and failed relationships. Part of the show's pleasure — besides the puppet sex — is the "rediscovery of the real attachments we had to creatures like this as children," said Jeff Whitty, the librettist. "It awakens the kid in us."

No single word has emerged to describe the phenomenon, but a few phrases in the marketing lexicon describe some of its aspects. The San Francisco advertising firm Odiorne Wilde Narraway & Partners calls the resurgence of retro brands among 18- to 34-year-olds "Peterpandemonium." Toymakers now take aim at "kidults," defined by the Italian company Kidult Games as "adults who take care of their kid inside." Researchers at the MacArthur Foundation are studying "adultolescents," those 20- and 30-somethings who live at home and still depend on their parents for emotional and financial support.

While some marketers court rejuveniles directly — "Who knew you and your daughter would have the same best friend?" asked an advertisement for a revived line of Strawberry Shortcake dolls — others speak to the rejuvenile soul by simply selling to kids. The Honda Element, the Tonkalike mini-truck introduced by the company as a "combination dorm room/base camp for active young buyers," has been marketed mostly at extreme sports and surfing events, said Andy Boyd, a spokesman for the American Honda Motor Company. But the average age of Element drivers, Mr. Boyd said, is 40. "That's exactly what we anticipated," he said. "It's a new definition of the family buyer — someone who doesn't want to give up their individual character even though they're getting older."

While there is nothing new about adults reveling in kiddie culture — Shirley Temple, Roald Dahl and Pee Wee Herman all had plenty of adult fans — market researchers say an especially strong wave of childishness began about two years ago. Milk and cookies, macaroni and cheese and meatloaf began appearing on the menus of highchair-free restaurants. Puma, Converse and Keds sneakers leapt from the schoolyard set to the fashion-conscious crowd. And then there is Harry Potter, whose cross-generational popularity prompted the British publisher Bloomsbury to release an edition of the books with so-called grown-up covers. (Adult-friendly kid titles are listed in Booklist, the trade magazine, under "Crossovers: Children's Books for Adults.")

"We're seeing this phenomenon worldwide," said Debra Joester, president of an independent licensing company that handles Care Bears, one of the lines of discontinued toys and merchandise recently reintroduced in part because of pent-up demand from grown-ups. (Other resurrected brands include He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, My Little Pony and Rainbow Brite.) A 2001 market research study by American Greetings, the creator of Strawberry Shortcake and Care Bears, showed that "purchase interest" was identical among women who wanted to buy a doll for their child and those who simply wanted to rekindle a love affair of their own.

"This consumer wants Care Bears in their life," Ms. Joester said. "And not just to share with their children."

In part, researchers say rejuveniles are simply seeking comfort in jittery times. Who better than a character like SpongeBob Squarepants to relieve free-floating anxiety? According to Nickelodeon, a full 26 percent of SpongeBob's regular audience is over 18.

Some social scientists, however, see signs of a deeply troubling trend. That so many adults expend so much time and energy pursuing the thrills of youth just proves how significantly "adulthood has lost its appeal," said Frank Furendi, a professor of sociology at the University of Kent at Canterbury in England. "Adulthood has got nothing attractive about it anymore. That's actually quite sad."

Mr. Furendi began researching what he calls "the self-conscious cultivation of immaturity" after spotting college students watching "Teletubbies" in a university bar. The scene stuck in his mind, and he came to think of it as representative of a wave of infantilism sweeping Britain and beyond. What is happening, Mr. Furendi maintained, is a natural if extreme response to a media culture that equates being old with being square and being young with being relevant. "Today, the way you demonstrate your worth is the extent to which you still go to rock concerts, you're still groovy, you're still a player," he said.

But many of those who fit the profile best — grown-ups who wear Sesame Street T-shirts or skin arthritic knees on their motor scooters — insist they are not simply obstinate Peter Pans or connoisseurs of kitsch. Many describe a nearly frantic compulsion to remain playful, flexible and fun in the face of realities like fixed-rate mortgages or lawn care. Mitch Anthony, president of a branding and design firm in Northampton, Mass., is a full-fledged adult: he has children, a closet full of suits and a picket fence that cost $10,000. But as he approaches his 50th birthday, he sees "absolutely no reason to give up doing what I loved as a kid," he said. "I still bike. I still love to hang out with my friends and talk about sex. I still play in a rock 'n' roll band. Why would I want to stop doing any of that?"

Rejuveniles reserve their deepest respect for adults who manage both to take care of business and to make time for play. The skateboarding mogul Tony Hawk is 35 and the father of three, but he is a hero of rejuveniles everywhere for staying in sync with the "12.5-year-old suburban male" who represents his core audience, said Pat Hawk, his sister and business manager. "He's not trying to live in a fantasy child world," she said. "He skates for a living, and he gets to travel in a private jet. How cool is that?"

Still, it is one thing for a 12.5-year-old to idolize a guy like Hawk. It is another for his dad to pine for a life of nose grinds and front-side kickflips — as many do. (Ms. Hawk describes her brother's adult fan base as rabid.) Bryan Page, a professor of anthropology and the chairman of the department at the University of Miami, said: "Play has historically been about recreation or preparing children to move into adult roles. That whole dynamic has now been reversed — play has become the primary purpose and value in many adult lives. It now borders on the sacred. From a historical standpoint, that's entirely backward."

Many rejuveniles, however, reject the notion that their enthusiasms are childish in the first place. "I like Chipmunks records because they're funny, period," said Jacob Austen, 34, a Chicago writer and authority on music by Alvin and the Chipmunks, part of a genre of children's music fans affectionately call rodent rock. Mr. Austen, who also produces a children's dance program on Chicago public-access television, says the best entertainment for kids is universal.

Ironically, most actual kids could not care less about much of the stuff that enchants rejuveniles. Take "The Langley Schools Music Project: Innocence and Despair," a CD of Canadian schoolchildren that has been praised by the likes of David Bowie and John Zorn, who called it nothing less than "music that touches the heart in a way no other music ever has." Irving Chusid, the record's producer, said that what adults find haunting, kids find utterly mundane.

Mr. Austen said he understands that distinction all too well. While friends and family have come to regard his love of old kids' records as charming or sweet, children are less forgiving. "I get the most censure from little kids, definitely," he said. "I'll be playing a Chipmunk record in my car, and if a kid hears it, they get seriously weirded out."

hstencil, Monday, 1 September 2003 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

This consumer wants Care Bears in their life

Time to hunt and slay.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)

the only qualm I have with the article (besides how queasy it makes me) is that I've never considered "Chic-a-go-go," Jake Austen's "children's dance program on Chicago public-access television," to be for kids.

hstencil, Monday, 1 September 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

That always seems to be the case with a few of the things focused on in these articles; there was the sidebar in ... CBG? I only read it reprinted in blogs ... that pointed out the figures in a lot of "look at all the adults buying KIDS' BOOKS!!!" articles were inflated by including all comic books purchased at bookstores as "kids' books," regardless of content or target audience. The Cartoon Network should be expected to pull in more 18 to 49 year olds, just as I imagine ESPN does, or TNT: not all of its programming is aimed at kids, and that includes non-nostalgic programming. Etc.

(Arguably the comfort food trend could be separated from a "return to childhood" trend, too, since it isn't limited to "children's food," but tends to focus more on middle American home-cooked food in general.)

Not that I'm actually arguing with the article -- people writing about trends often end up with a few extra fish in their nets, that's all.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I know Tep, but it still makes me feel creepy. But maybe I should've posted it to trife's thread about childhood and susceptibility to television advertisements (esp. as the article seems focussed on 20-30-40-somethings who came of age after the golden years of advertising i.e. 1960s).

hstencil, Monday, 1 September 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

http://aliceww.com/Treasures%20In%20Motion/images/LisTeddyAndGrubby.jpg

I wanted the one on the right SO BADLY, but could never get it.

Alternately, I also wanted this:

http://collectingx.com/images/gpk5.jpg

This was the one thing that was absolutely forbidden by my parents, though. So naturally when some of my cousins got them, I would beg to look at them and would end up flipping through their collections constantly.

I did also want the Snoopy Snow-Cone machine, but another cousin of mine had it and she let me use it a lot so I felt as though we BOTH owned it, sorta.

Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Garbage Pail Kids are coming back! (why didn't they mention that in the article I posted?)

hstencil, Monday, 1 September 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I was OBSESSED with them!

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I was more into Wacky Packages. Boy, that Garbage Pail Kids Movie was weird, wasn't it? Weird and horrible. Also, Art Spiegelman was behind one of them right? WPs I think.

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I know Tep, but it still makes me feel creepy.

Oh I know, like I said, I'm not arguing with the article. I'd only really noticed it among women roughly my age or younger, for most of those things they list -- with guys it often seems to be "G.I. Joe was so cooool!" but fewer things that actually involve spending money. I kind of find lots of brands of cutesiness -- I'm counting G.I. Joe as cutesy, so maybe it isn't the best word -- off-putting, and I can't decide if they're all nostalgic/childhood-reclaimed oriented or not.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Milk and cookies, macaroni and cheese and meatloaf began appearing on the menus of highchair-free restaurants.

Yeah, in the 1980's. So is the current trend for comfort food trend retro nostalgia for the original one?

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Here is an AP article WRITTEN BY MY BEST FRIEND about the Garbage Pail Kids comeback! (I read it in a newspaper in Victoria, B.C. while on tour - way to go Lukedogg!).

Garbage Pail Kids set to return to market

Gross-out stickers were popular in 1980s
By LUKAS I. ALPERT

NEW YORK - Long before South Park or Beavis and Butt-Head entertained kids with lowbrow toilet humor, there were the Garbage Pail Kids. Now, the grandfather of gross-out is making a comeback.

After being off the market for 15 years, a new series of the hugely successful stickers that entertained children in the mid-1980s with depictions of bodily functions will be released in August by The Topps Co.

Garbage Pail Kids still maintain a cult following, with several dedicated fan Web sites and an active trade on Internet auction sites.

But will the stickers, originally conceived as a spoof of the wildly popular Cabbage Patch Kids, find an audience among a jaded generation raised on the hyper-potty-humored Jackass and the sophomoric SpongeBob SquarePants?

"I think gross-out has always been and will always be of interest to kids," said Arthur Shorin, chairman of Topps, whose Manhattan headquarters is crowded with mountains of candy and collectible cards. "Garbage Pail Kids was a phenomenal fad - it really struck a funny bone - and we expect kids will still enjoy them because it's a spoof on real life."

The new series finds plenty of things to make fun of, like "Fartin' Martin," who gaseously propels himself on a Razor scooter, or the heavily pierced "Metallic Alec," who is pulled out of his shoes by a magnet.

They even take a shot at the bespectacled child wizard - "Harry Potty" - toilet plunger in tow, doing his business in the loo.

To help modernize the series, Topps also plans to launch a Web site in August that will let youngsters create their own Garbage Pail Kids and take a tour of a Garbage Pail Kid city.

Not all the ideas are new. About two-thirds of the series is made up of art drawn for stickers 15 years ago that were never released.

The maker of baseball trading cards and Bazooka bubble gum made millions of dollars on 15 different series of Garbage Pail Kids from 1985 through 1988, Shorin said. The unreleased art was drawn for the 16th series, which never saw print because popularity had waned.

Garbage Pail Kids suffered a backlash of sorts from parents who thought gross-out humor was detrimental to children - something that probably spurred their popularity.

"I would get letters all the time from parents saying, 'This is in poor taste.' Well, of course it's in poor taste!" Shorin said. "But it's not in wrong taste; we would never do that."

hstencil, Monday, 1 September 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I like how the only small objects we desire are toys from the 80s.

Carey (Carey), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Also I'll note that my Snoop Sno-Cone Machine was my most treasured possession.

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 1 September 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I found it!

http://www.x-entertainment.com/pics/cula15.jpg

Carey (Carey), Monday, 1 September 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.dirtroad.com/toy7.jpg

oops (Oops), Monday, 1 September 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Garbage Pail Kids are coming back! (why didn't they mention that in the article I posted?)

Oh how cool! Back to sully the brains of innocent young children. ;) (I'm so kidding, but that is probably what my parents thought at the time. "Oh no, we're not letting her have that. She'll get it and suddenly become rude and snotty." That sort of thing.) Also, thanks a lot for the article post! Sounds like they're going to do an update on the line, which is good.

Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 1 September 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"Power wheels. Pow,pow,power wheels,Pow,pow,power wheels, Power wheels, king of the road!"

oops (Oops), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.he-manandshe-ra.org/pics/katie3.jpg

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

http://64.95.118.51/images/opti/04/cf/kifmGamesPreschool_ActionHungry_Hungry_Hippos-resized200.jpg

OMG I *am* Donnie Darko.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey! I was just about to post that!

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

We weren't allowed to have HHH cos it was so damn noisy and everyone else who had one broke it after like, three goes.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

http://crimsonguard.tripod.com/defiantopen.jpg

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"Fairy-stories were plainly not primarily concerned with possibility, but with desirability. If they awakened desire, satisfying it while often whetting it unbearably, they succeeded.. I had no desire to have either dreams or adventures like Alice, and the account of them merely amused me. I had very little desire to look for buried treasure or fight pirates, and Treasure Island left me cool. Red Indians were better: there were bows and arrows... and strange languages, and glimpses of an archaic mode of life, and, above all, forests in such stories. But the land of Merlin and Arthur was better than these, and best of all the nameless North of Sigurd of the Völsungs, and the prince of all dragons. Such lands were pre-eminently desirable... I desire dragons with a profound desire." Tolkien, On Fairy-Stories, 1938

My desire for Callisto was NOT television-generated. If Major Matt Mason was promoted on TV I never saw it. He was advertised in UK comics I think, but not really the kinds of comics I read much. If my memory is being honesty with me, I saw a ONE-PANEL half-page ad, just once (on the back of a cereal packet maybe?) (I picture it with me sat at my usual breakfast seat , the light behind me), for the Space Station set mentioned above (it may even have been that picture): that was what ignited the fire.

I don't think television CREATES the desire: I think this is reactionary (and in fact silly) thinking. I accept that television contributes to the belief that desire can be easily slaked (buy Mousetrap and shut the kid up!!) and thus set aside — but then so do articles like that New York Times piece. I accept that a kind of symtomatic fetishism operates round the lost utopias of these kinds of objects: but you don't dispel a symptom by saying "grow up" at it. "Now I am a man I have set aside childish things": are the "realistic" desires of achieved adulthood really so undeluded? I wrote as a half-joke that my desire for Callisto was no more than a youthful semi-gay yearning, based round my "thing" as a child for perfect (mathematically exact and equal) companionship. After I read it back, I thought "ULP GOLLY BLIMEY!! ": of COURSE I had a "thing" for companionship — apart from family and adults working with my mum and dad, I grew up almost entirely starved (accident of local geography) of friendships of my own age. I had lots of affection and attention, but it was the opposite of "mathematically equal".

mark s (mark s), Monday, 1 September 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

the last line of the tolk shd be: "I desired dragons with a profound desire."

mark s (mark s), Monday, 1 September 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.auntie.com/dustcatchers/he%20man/hm_castle1.jpg

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It looked different in my day, of course.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.collectorman.com/images/U104.jpg

very different.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you. Just been looking through a comprehensive pictorial record of every original figure - I seem to recall being aware even then that most of those characters hardly appeared in the cartoon and were just cash-ins, but still got my parents to buy them of course.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The toy I was (and still am) the most passionate about was Lego, and as a kid, to my mind the most notable thing about their TV ads was that there practically weren't any. If I was actually lucky to see one once, I'd never see them again.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I had Castle Greyskull!

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't even know they made a Castle Greyskull playset, man. I would've been all over that.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

You didn't? It was the scene of some pretty crazy goings-on in my basement. Somehow some of the characters from Star Wars infiltrated it and there was a lot of head-butting.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Lego! How could I forget Lego. I loved it.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I had Castle Greyskull, too. The trap door was the best thing.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I was a rich kid and I got an Omnibot. Gave up on all the complicated programming stuff and used it only as a remote-communication device. For a day or two! I also had Dingbot and I lurved him much more!

Aaron A., Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

The Dingbot was weirdly great. I don't know if I can describe the appeal. Ever have an action figure from that sucktastic age when a lot of action figures couldn't actually do anything, and maybe couldn't even move, and you loved it anyway? It was like that.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh man, Lego was my favorite toy growing up! I loved loved LOVED Lego. I still would too if I knew where my Lego pieces were, or even if I still have any.

Lego + stuffed animals + board games = practically all of my toys & "wish list" items from when I was a wee little tyke.

Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Dingbot was manic and cute and fun and chicks digged him. I knew in my heart that Omnibot had more to offer, if only I'd take the time and care to plumb his depths, but who has time for that shit?

Aaron A., Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Dingbot got right down to it. He didn't ask for much, but he gave all he had. You don't find that much these days.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)


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