All in all, it seems like soy is a bad idea if you already have family history of hypothyroidism, but this all kinda took me my surprise -- given how much I love soy products,. So, uh, there you go. Read as you will. (I'm not giving up soy by any means, but i'm glad i'm a little more aware)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)
"For soy to actually cause hypothyroidism, you'd have to be bordering on hypothyroidism to begin with," says naturopath Martin Milner, N.D., president of the Center for Natural Medicine in Portland, Ore., and developer of a new treatment for hypothyroidism.
How could you know? Many people eat soy for the health benefits. They may have no idea that they are allergic to the stuff until after they eat it.
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)
read: I'm not going to deny that it's an actual cause
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)
(and while i certainly take these issues seriously, i still can't get over how paranoid that anti-soy page is. )
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 4 September 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Thursday, 4 September 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Friday, 5 September 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)
August 27, 2003, Wednesday
DINING IN, DINING OUT/STYLE DESKFOOD STUFF; A Different Soy Sauce Every Day of the WeekBy Florence Fabricant
Lightly seasoned soy sauces packed in cute mini milk cartons are a nice addition to the condiment shelf. Kamada Foods International in Ottawa has imported them from Japan for years and is now selling them in the United States.
There are seven flavors, including Ponzu Soy, which makes a nice dipping sauce. Salad Soy has no oil but can be used as a salad dressing. Dashi Soy, seasoned with dashi, the Japanese stock base, is convenient to add to soups and noodle dishes. There is also a Salmon Dashi sauce, flavored with smoked salmon.
Boxes of seven seven-ounce containers, all one flavor or one of each, are $15.05 to $17.50, plus shipping, from (877) 722-5769 or www.kamada.ca.
To heck with Kikkoman!
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 5 September 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 5 September 2003 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 5 September 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 5 September 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Oblivious Man (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Freedom Dupont, Friday, 5 September 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)
If they really call themselves that, they can do whatever they want to. They slipped the bonds of earth long ago.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 September 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)
Still though, I don't think the soy/hypothyroidism link is all just propaganda from fruitamentalists or what have you. There is no such thing as a perfect food or drug, and I was beginning to wonder what lurked in soy's closet of skeletons. However, I'm sure the association of the Soy Lobby with Evil like that site i linked above is highly absurd and exaggerated.
(ANYBODY who likes to type out information such that every alternative word or phrase is underlined and hypertexted on their site raises crazy fondue-mentalist stylee suspicion)― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 5 September 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 5 September 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)
That's my favorite phrase for today.
― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 5 September 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 5 September 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)
"carrionian", heheh.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 September 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)
the problem has to do with iodine actually; i'm allergic to it.
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 5 September 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
huh
― janice (surm), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)
well i certainly hope it doesn't kill me! oops, ate too much soy!
― janice (surm), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)
hypothryroidism really really can fuck you up, esp cuz it usually goes undiagnosed...took my wife probably a year to be normal after she got on the correct meds :(
― my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)
omg really
wait so does salt do that to you too
― janice (surm), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
Huh. Did not know that, and it's especially interesting in light of the fact that a) my doctor suspects something may be up with my thyroid (constant tiredness, fainting, mood swings) and b) oh holy shit I eat SO MUCH SOY :(
― a black white asian pine ghost who is fake (Telephone thing), Friday, 23 July 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
(constant tiredness, fainting, mood swings)
any weight flucuations?
anyway you should get it checked
― my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
don't know abt salt, i didn't know soy caused it until this thread was bumped....
― my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
that's weird i've been feeling a little more tired than usual too and i eat a lot of soy. not excited about this idea.
― janice (surm), Friday, 23 July 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
sorry didn't mean to make u paranoid or anything...there is a test for it so if you feel like it you could get tested...but obv you could be more tired than usual for a million different reasons.
fwiw my wife did not eat like tons of soy or anything...but i think it's more common in women
― my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
my mom suggested that i get a baseline thyroid test so they know what normal reads for me -- thyroid probs run in my family (grandpa has hyper, mom has hypo) and so i wanted to be safe. so far no symptoms, but i was getting worried for a while there.
anyway, getting a read on your normal thyroid levels can help detect problems should they arise in the future (or so says my mom)
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Friday, 23 July 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)
i read somewhere that soy is healthiest in a fermented state (miso, tempeh, furu, soy sauce, etc.) and you don't need to worry about this so much. not sure if that's still considered to be valid research-wise or not.
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