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So I became the proud owner of a shiny new iPod yesterday....for FREE! Of course it doesn't work on win98. Or does it? Do I need to upgrade?

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 8 September 2003 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Buy an iMAC. Then you can also be the proud owner of iTUNES. :-)

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 8 September 2003 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

This is meant to work from win 98 up, but only the early version. He's trying to see if people want 95 and 98 support.

All other little utils seem to be win 2000 and up, unfortunately.

If you do look at another computer, consider a mac. eMac's are pretty cheap and N. will attest to its quality.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

What one is the eMac? The ugly beautiful one which is just a monitor sat on top of a half-sphere base? How cheap are these?

David. (Cozen), Monday, 8 September 2003 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I love asking questions which I could easily answer myself using google or ebay.

David. (Cozen), Monday, 8 September 2003 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that's pretty cheap. I wouldn't mind a desktop Mac but do I really need one (currently running iBook: G3 600 Mhz, 640 MB RAM, 20 GB HD)?

David. (Cozen), Monday, 8 September 2003 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

that's the iMac, which is due for an update as early as this lunchtime (the apple store being off-line for updating when I checked prices)

A further check shows that iMacs start at £999 inc VAT and eMacs from £649 (source micro anvika)

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still using my venerable powerbook G3 (500Mhz, 640Mb, 12Gb HD) and have no problems apart from the pitifully small hard disk (my first HD was 20Mb). I'm not likely to upgrade until the powerbook G5 appears.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Those eMacs are pretty cheap. Mmm. I hope my checque is FAT.

I don't need one. I don't need one. I don't need one.

Powerbook G5!!!

David. (Cozen), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I like my eMac but do wonder about the upgradablity of it sometimes (I think I can add RAM but that's about it).

Having seen various jukebox programs on PCs, I can confirm that they are absolutely appalling compared to iTunes. Surely it's possible to write something similar for Windows?

I have many issues with my iPod though, great as it is. For a start it's getting all scuffed up after only a fortnight - do they expect me to keep it in that ridiculous pouch all the time? I know I could use the remote, but that's even more of a faff, finding something to clip it onto and taking off all the time.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

There are rubber iPod sheaths available which are better than the standard case, allowing you to use the buttons and all. See the 'iPod Skin' on this site, i've seen them for sale in Britain, my brother has one.

iTunes for windows should appear by the end of the year, so that windows users can buy tunes from apple.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

You got a pouch? Did you find the little plugs? I found out another gripe about the iPod the other day, quite an elaborate one but I can't remember it right now.

And it's supposed to get scuffed up real bad. It makes it look better. I like my decayed looking iPod better.

I don't agree with your remote qualms. Although I have never used this particular remote, I never had any trouble when I clipped my MD remote to one of my belt-loops each day: accessible, minimal-fuss, you don't have to lift your shirt each time &c.

David. (Cozen), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed, so that will work for win98 first edition? hopefully....of course I still need to add a firewire card to my pc anyways.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't guarantee it, I don't use a PC. but it might be worth a try.

On the upgradability issue, N, what would you need to upgrade (other than memory and HD which you can) that can't be added on using USB or firewire?

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

if it doesn't work I have access to a OS upgrade anyways. But now I realized that my pc has only 2 available pci slots which are both taken. in order to add firewire I need an extra slot. damn it all to hell. is there an ASA firewire card available, hmmm.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris - or USB2? (I read something about how firewire seems to be losing the battle to USB2 now that Apple have announced USB2 support in their latest models).

Ed - I didn't realise you could change the internal HD. I guess I was vaguely thinking about replacing the processor one day but maybe not.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

replacing the processor is rarely as good an idea as it sounds. Motherboards change to suit processors and newer processors don't tend to suit older machines that well. My far older and inferior mac is still serving me well. The only reason to get a new one would be to get the latest toy. Unless you do a lot of graphics/video work or are a hard hardcore gamer there is no real reason to stay at the bleeding edge of technology anymore. Most computers (Macs especially) of the last three or four years are still able to do what most people do perfectly well.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris, it may be worth upgrading the OS, microsoft is going to stop supporting win98 early next year.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah USB 2 as well, but my pc is so old I think it runs the old USB 1.1, which means if I hook up the 2.0 it will still run through the old 1.1 crapola.

I'm going to upgrade to OS. I hate pc's.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris, it may be worth upgrading the OS, microsoft is going to stop supporting win98 early next year.

Most new software is not compatible w/win98 anyway, so it probably is worth it to get the upgrade.

Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

My old iPod was OK using Ephpod on W98. Bit frazzly at times and needed watching over, but generally did the job fine and dandy.

Still waiting for 20GB models to become available here in the Uk...

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah EPHPOD works with 98se. Not first edition. Oh well, I'm going to upgrade.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Make sure you get all the patches to what ever you upgrade to. There are so many exploits and vulnerabilities in the later versions of windows.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I plan on running the auto update as soon as I get it installed.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

iMac was just updated, it now starts at 1Ghz instead of 800Mhz, still starts at £999.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ssshh - don't publicise Mac clock speeds or PC owners will laugh at us.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

even intel have had to admit that clock speed doesn't count for everything.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

20 and 40 gig iPods as well.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

It looks so shiny in its little dock, its quite frustrating knowing I can't use it until I update the pc. Grrr.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 8 September 2003 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

40 gig iPods! Yes! Really? Yes! OMG yes!

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuxors! I want part-exhange for the 30GB I brought last month!

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

fucking hell it's even the same price!!!

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, so slightly thinner again (one news site said it was thinner than 2 CDs but thankfully this was a mistake) and a third more storage. No new features. I'm not that upset.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

no it WEIGHS less than 2 cd's - i find this astonishing - do they mean without cases? - of course, yes.

colin o'hara (jed_e_3), Monday, 8 September 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully (for my peace of mind) this means that the battery life got shorter again.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually from the side view on the apple site it looks like it might have dispensed with the metallic back - maybe this made a difference.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the same iPod that was released in April, just a bigger disk. It was a selling point that it weighed less than two cds (with cases).

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Did it come with a new Volkswagon?

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 8 September 2003 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I have just discovered for myself what Ed says above. No thanks to the apple PR dept -

From http://www.apple.com/ipod/ :

New 20GB and 40GB models

Smaller than ever (just 0.62 inches thick)

Cheek!

As a matter of interest, how do hard drives keep getting bigger without getting umm.. bigger?

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

the white heat of technology

or more acurately by improving magnetic head technology so that the data blocks get smaller.

Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed should post a recipe for Welsh Rarebit to this thread.

David. (Cozen), Monday, 8 September 2003 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

40 Gigs, sheer insanity. I'm impressed but my heavens.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 September 2003 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only just twigged that that's the size of my Mac's hard drive.

btw, is it normal for a '15GB' iPod to have an actual capacity for MP3s of 'just' 13.9MB? 1.1GB seems a lot for just an iPod's OS and playlist info etc. Just checking I haven't been shortchanged.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I might start considering iPods again when they have a windows iTunes ready.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 8 September 2003 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Just wait a few more weeks, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought that reasonable excuse would keep me safe a good while.

: ((((

RJG (RJG), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha Steve Jobs made RJG get a job.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

In the meantime, there's also this:

http://www.musicmatch.com/download/free/?OS=pc&OEM=APPLE

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Musicmatch is evil, I hate it and I am glad by the time I can afford an iPod the windows iTunes should be ready.

Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only ever had one, and that was secondhand, I think you have to be prepared to work on them a bit to keep the little bastards alive

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

A bit like a tamagotchi in many ways

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

my first http://linuxbrit.co.uk/gadgets/lg/IMG_0450.JPG

was stolen. which was sad. i was very fond of it. the second i got pissed off with after it kept giving up on me when i was djing. this one i have refused to form a relationship with and am looking forward to when i can manipulate evil apple into upgrading me to a 40gb touch screen.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

good luck fag

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

Not sure if everyone knows about this site? I've used the businesscard trick on 2 ipods, and worked both times. My first ipod gave me 3 years, then since I cracked it open and added the card, an additional 2.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/03/05/crunchgear-how-to-fix-an-ipod-that-wont-boot/

paulhw, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

I looked at that site but that looked too complicated for the likes of me

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

My iPod works just fine, except for the fact that there's a black line about a quarter of the way down the screen that over the past few weeks has gotten thicker in places. It looks like it was drawn with an Etch-a-Sketch. Good thing I never use the iPod to watch video, but I'm still concerned that the screen will slowly, eventually become unreadable.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

anyone able to clear up why i was called a "fag"?

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago)

aspergers

DG, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago)

fun fact: $10,000 invested in Apple stock the day this thread was started would now be worth over $135,000

wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago)

My friend types now:

so my art teach was trying to steal some more music from my iPod today.so after fucking with this iPod ripper thing(Zenuti) all during my study hall in there
she hands it back. After school I try to play a song and it just skips to the next song,then to the next one(and so on).So now all three thousand somethin songs are all showing up BUT WONT PLAY! I came down with the terrible feeling,like my girlfriend left me or something,as lame as that sounds.
will some one iPod savy PLEEEEEEEEASE HELP ME!
I will be forever in debt

My friend is done typing now.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 01:02 (seventeen years ago)

Delete and re-sync from Mac.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 03:47 (seventeen years ago)

get the art teacher fired

electricsound, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 03:49 (seventeen years ago)

Fire a round into the art teach.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 03:55 (seventeen years ago)

brrrrrrat brrrrrrrrrat

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

Mail me the iPod and I will fix it.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 04:07 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Got an iPod for nothing, which was pretty rad, and after working out teething problems (or not, as evidenced in the firewire questions thread) with USB I went to give it a go, and the headphone socket doesn't work.

I cracked it open and it appears the ribbon cable has come apart from the little white box (top right of the left half)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2083/2192693128_fb5b163610_o.jpg

Looks like it'd be a right bastard to solder, has this happened to anyone else? Should I take it into an Apple store? I wonder if there are Apple stores here.

It's a third gen iPod, like this one upthread

iPod ???

S-, Monday, 14 January 2008 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

dude, just google.... this stuff is well documented

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 14 January 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

I think my iPod is finally dead, it's making a sort of chirping noise, which apparently means it's fucked

Tom D., Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

iPod ???

and what, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:24 (seventeen years ago)

My iPod lives again again! I stuck a knife in it and it started working.

Tom D., Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:25 (seventeen years ago)

When you're on a date, take a girl through a park and pick her some flowers. Then, knife an ipod. -- (after) chaki, Monday, 17 December 2007 23:30

Mark G, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:32 (seventeen years ago)

how long do you think it will be before we will be able to buy ipods with the maximum capacity which are the size a nano is now?

I have a nano (owned since October last year). I always have it on shuffle, yet most ppl I speak to hate shuffle. I associate listening to whole albums with sitting at home. On the move I like to be surprised. It kind of fits with travelling through a changing environment to have changing music.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:38 (seventeen years ago)

I'm hanging onto my mini until it finally packs up for good, in the hope that a mini/nano size 80GB (or not even that much, I guess 30 would do fine for me really) will come out soon. Not that I have the money for a new ipod anyway at the moment.

I always have mine on shuffle as well unless there's something specific I fancy listening to.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:46 (seventeen years ago)

I also really like the fact that it's shiny silver on the back. The future has arrived!

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:48 (seventeen years ago)

Genie, I listen a lot to shuffle while out and about. It's really good for discovering and rediscovering stuff that's kind of lost on my CD shelves.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:50 (seventeen years ago)

Never solved the problem I had just up thread. Despite Jon's insistence to google there doesn't seem to be a solution I can find.

S-, Thursday, 31 January 2008 11:00 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPNaATd3u7U

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 April 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

I can't find an appropriate thread, but:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8117619.stm

BBC lets 13-year old use tape walkman for a week instead of his iPod.

"It took me three days to figure out that there was another side to the tape."

StanM, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

"I mistook the metal/normal switch on the Walkman for a genre-specific equaliser"

hahahaha

ledge, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45984000/jpg/_45984325_scott_466.jpg

BEGGING for a caption.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

and a haircut!

Matt P, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

Diet's definitely working for Gervais, tho.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it was a young James Corden.

Alba, Monday, 29 June 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

I'm so glad everyone's linking to such an entertaining and informative article!

can iiiijjjjust (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 June 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, I hope the kid is OK! He had to use a walkman for a whole week!

can iiiijjjjust (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 June 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

Fathom the thought of such a harrowing ordeal!

can iiiijjjjust (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 June 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

Results 1 - 10 of about 6,170,000 for ipod left channel not working. (0.48 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,890,000 for ipod right channel not working. (0.36 seconds)

strange imbalance (literally)

for me the right channel started cutting out recently and won't work at all unless i press the area where the earphone cord starts but it's well random

unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, there's a physical reason for the imbalance, but I'm probably not the right person to explain it. It'll have to do with plugs having three contact points (tip, ring, and sleeve, I think?) and how stereo connections use them differently. So whatever bit always goes wrong on iPod jacks would seem to more often be the bit for the left channel.

I'm surprised about the jacks, to be honest -- two out of three iPods I've used have had the jacks fail. It's hard to imagine someone selling something that expensive and not just putting a sturdier jack in. (I am trying not to be cynical about replacement sales or anything.)

nabisco, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

aha, wait, I think I can explain it -- with stereo plugs it's like:

sleeve = ground
ring = right channel
tip = left channel

so on iPods possibly it's the tip connection that fails more often

nabisco, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

how do I get this stupid Voice Memo thing off of my main menu. it is not listed under the "Settings/Main Menu". it just appeared the other day. totally annoying me.

Owa Tana Siam (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

can't, you just gotta move it to one of your other screens that you hardly ever look at - that's what i do with "stocks" and "youtube" and whatever

Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

unless you are talkin about a different kinda ipod i dunno

Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 December 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

eh I just rebooted the OS and that got rid of it. although I am perplexed as to why it just appeared in the first place. the only thing I can think of is that I plugged it into a mixing board the other day and it must have mistaken that for a microphone input and started up the feature...? whatever. its gone now.

unobtaintium (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 December 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Have you filled your iPod? I never have. I'm curious about how everyone treats theirs.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't yet, but that's only because I haven't gotten around to putting the 28-disc Sun Ra set on it.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

i have an 80 gb and filled it a long time ago. currently jonesing for the 160 one

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

six months pass...

My (always chock full) 160GB has found a new way to vex me. It functions normally on its own, and mounts in iTunes just fine, but refuses to let me alter its contents. If I try to delete stuff, iTunes just perma-freezes. Anyone encountered this? I have to wipe it don't I :(

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

eight years pass...

anyone know of a good mp3 device with bluetooth they would recommend? super dumbed down interface preferred, i often find the 'features' that the iphone environment forces on you to make things harder. streaming from my phone is getting untenable. 32GB or 64GB would probably be fine. i don't want cloud-based anything, i don't mind updating manually at all

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:41 (four years ago)

oh, and if this is becoming a thing outside of the apple world, YES i want a headphone jack, jeez

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:41 (four years ago)


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