**big huge sigh**
― Poor Lost Soul, Monday, 8 September 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
Thing is this--I sorta cheated a couple of years ago, and we've been working on the "getting her to trust me again" thing. I don't know. When do I just give up and say it's never going to happen?
― Poor Lost Soul, Monday, 8 September 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Texas, Biyatch! (thatgirl), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)
until you find the one that isn't.
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious is a bitter old man, just ignore him (nickalicious), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)
uhm, yeah.
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― sean g, Monday, 8 September 2003 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― sean g, Monday, 8 September 2003 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't plan on sticking my willy in any other girls. But I can't stay away from girls! I chat with a lot of girls that she doesn't know anything about (she even asks me sometimes if I'm doing so, and I yell at her for being suspicious...guess I'm a little embarrased that she's got me so pegged). I guess I still sort of feel like I shouldn't be held back from talking/flirting with girls as long as I know I'm not going to do anything with them.
Sure, she might have reason to be paranoid, but does that mean she gets to make my life miserable with her spying/accusing/on and on?
― Poor Lost Soul, Monday, 8 September 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)
It's a Big Ass Hassle!
― Poor Lost Soul, Monday, 8 September 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)
Why don't I feel bad about lying to her?
We used to get along so well, and I still really love her. I think she's my only REAL friend. She's the only person who's ever been able to put up with all of my crap. And it is CRAP.
― Poor Lost Soul, Monday, 8 September 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Either lay in the bed you've made for yourself and stop your bitching or move on from this relationship and flirt/chat to your cheatin' heart's delight.
― Texas, Biyatch! (thatgirl), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)
1. Insert both hands into rectum.2. Clap.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 8 September 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm a prick. You're all helping me see this. I knew you guys could help.
I don't know why she's still with me.
― Poor Lost Soul, Monday, 8 September 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Texas, Biyatch! (thatgirl), Monday, 8 September 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Monday, 8 September 2003 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)
they aren't necessarily pricks. but cheating is a pretty big sign that you aren't really THAT your partner. (unless you've got the whole polyamory thing going, which is a whole different kettle of fish cos then it isn't cheating.) and even if humans are humans and we all make mistakes blah blah, if your girlfriend still doesn't trust you a couple of years later then she's never going to trust you and you may as well call it quits.
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Monday, 8 September 2003 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
insert "into" between "THAT" and "your".
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Monday, 8 September 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 8 September 2003 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Its too early and I'm tired but god that sounds dirty ;)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 8 September 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)
It's wrong if it is causing some trouble between you and your girlfriend. If you don't want to give-up such interactions and are comfortable that you'd never take things beyond the chat/flirt stage, then you might be able to reassure your girlfriend by giving her free and unlimited access to the relevant chats/emails, so she is reassured that nothing is happening behind her back. I've found that most cases of jealousy in this area grow from one partner feeling excluded from something that is making the other person happy. So if it can become a 'let's experience this together' practice, then things might improve. BUT, if she's having trouble with this, then you owe it to her to be honest and stop (as she see's it) 'pursuing' other women.
Completely different subject. If you're lying and don't feel at all bad about it, then get out of the relationship. Period. No discussion. No argument. If you're not honest, and don't feel like you're doing her wrong by lying, then she deserves better.
You write that you love her, that she's your only 'REAL friend.' Bullshit. If you love her, if she is a real friend, then you'd not feel comfortable with lying to her. Ever. I'm not saying that you wouldn't lie, but that it would bother you to do so.
It sounds to me like the two of you have some history and have fallen into patterns that are driving you away from each other because that's easier than addressing whatever the issues might be. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, as many relationships follow that path. But you owe it to her and to yourself to be honest.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rage Against the Coffee Maker (Rage Against the Coffee Maker), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)
Granted, this may be because I didn't know it was an option...
― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)
You probably did not know you did it, but chances are, if you were,as you stated, a girlfriend several times over, there were souls that trampled on, beaten down, chewed up, spit out and driven insane. Howver, maybe the term snatch seems to be the source of confusion because it lends to the notion that it is a totally conscious effort. This, I concede may not be the case. Whether true voliton is involved or not doesn't really matter because the beat down is still the same.
― Rage Against the Coffee Maker (Rage Against the Coffee Maker), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)
having said that, i think your behaviour shows that you are not ready or willing to to the work that would re-instill trust in your girlfriends mind.
let it go, let her go and try to figure out why you have this need to flirt etc with other girls behind the back of someone you claim to love.
there are many ways of cheating. sex is only the most blatant one.
― donna (donna), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Did someone say, "Orgy in the house of whores?"
― Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Cool! That's kind of like being one of those zombies from POTC, I had no idea.
― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)
WORLD'S ARE COLLIDING HERE!"
― George Castanza aka Art Vandelay (nickalicious), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Texas, Biyatch! (thatgirl), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)
That, or it could be a case of split personalities that have learned to type.
i mean flirting usually means nothing.
But if you are already seeing someone, why would you need to practice 'come-hither' looks on anyone else?
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Flirting is one thing; lying about it (to someone you're supposed to care about and who's supposed to be able to trust you) is an entirely different thing.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)
Enter Shakespeare, stage right!
Honeymooners, stage left!
Jane Austen, kick Fran Drescher with your pointy boot and grab center stage!!!!!
Is this really a question with a nonfictional answer?
― Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)
she should be over his history by now, as i said earlier. she's not, which sucks. hes lying, which sucks. dude, this relationship is DOOMED.
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)
"she's lying."
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)