did anyone see kilroy this morning? subject: swingers

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missed most of it as i had to go to work, but would have watched it, mainly coz i think swingers are unintentional comedy genuis. is it judgemental and wrong to find what people do in their private life so damned amusing, am i being childish, conservative and reactionary or are swingers just legitimately funny? discuss.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think it's funny, it's a shame i wasn't off ill today, i would've watched it! Daytime tv rulez!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Were they plug ugly mingers?

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

you are all jealous and hate fun

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, let's just say you wouldn't feature them in any swinging recruitment campaign

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

and one woman actually kept on saying "i do it becasue it's fun", mark...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've probably mentioned this before: I was giving The Boss a hand with a web design problem a few months ago, leaning over his shoulder and looking at his computer screen. He had an email folder open for a mailing list he's presumably on: a list for local swingers. I wanted to giggle a lot.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

ah, bless...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

ooh fabulous. was it car keys in a bowl? were there any bitter divorcees whose other halves had run away with another swinger, leaving them broken and without enough money to feed their dozens of cats? did kilroy shout at people who touched his hair?

― j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

now that's the thing... i'm noty particulary repulsed by it, not do i think it's insidious and evil, just funny and rather quaint!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I dont know about rather quaint, it's just allowed adultery!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

imagine if you threw an orgy and no one came!!

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

i know, but i've always thought that they're all in the same room together, going at it on the shag pile with mrs jones from number 34 and mr morris from the chemists, then they probably have a cup of tea and a biscuit and talk about the weather.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

mr sinkah, come work with me in tabloid newspapers

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think it's great (even though I wouldn't be one) - press coverage always does make them seem terribly English in a very sweet way whereas the same papers will cover sex parties in Paris and New York as if they're the height of frisson fashion.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

ts: edgy vs comfy

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

absolutely otm, tom. it's the "taking a walk through this leafy suburb, who could have imagined what was going on behind the net curtains of no 63 acacia avenue" aspect of it that i love/find endlessly amusing. also have to add, though, that being one is the last thing i would want to do, especially after seeing these people this morning.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

comfy!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I would imagine the sex they have is often really good and exciting too.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Idea of orgy - classic. Reality of surbaban orgy - seemingly very dud indeed.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have you been to one Dave?

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

"anyway those grapes were sour!!"

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

of course i bloody haven't!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

but if i do i want vol-au-vents and fondue to be served

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fondue at an orgy = major spillage hazard.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Obviously if you've got hang-ups about the middle-aged human body they might not be for you.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Er, that was directed at Mr B, who sounds like he has some experience in this area.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

isn't there a terrific fondue-orgy scene in asterix in switzerland?

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fondue at an orgy = major spillage hazard.

however the vol-au-vent must be perhaps the most convenient sex-party food ever

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

The thing that creeps me out about it is how sexist it seems. Wife swapping and mock-lesbianism ahoy.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, but there's no sex in it (mostly because they are all covered in cheese for reasons I can no longer remember, and some have been thrown into the river with weights attached to their feet).

X-post with RickyT - yes, but surely it's husband-swapping as well? It's only as sexist as you want to interpret it... (Ilxer who has been to a real-life swinging orgy to thread, if there is one!)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Anyway, when the women are on the carpet lezzing up, the blokes are in the kitchen preparing the tea and scones - it is actually a real revolution for sexual stereotypes.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have no experience at all, but my impression as garnered from the News of the Screws and documentaries on Channels 4 and 5 is that this is what they are like.

Ricky T OTM. My impression as garnered from the problem page of the Sun and the Screws is that it is the man who is pressurising his female partner to attend an orgy = he wants to get his end away with other people but wanting a guilt free knobbing by indiciating that it's ok for her to have random shaggage too.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

the blokes are in the kitchen preparing the tea and scones

Ha! That's their story...

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's a sausage roll party.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think the same thing about swingers as I think about nudists: group sex and nude swimming are terrific if they occur spontaneously in a nice place with people you really like, but trying to organize these events with strangers or with people you know only for those purposes strikes me as more than a bit desperate.

― Anonymous regular, Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Sexual Life Of Catherine M. is in the Top Ten at Waterstones!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

She's a doity boid

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I believe that they got thrown into the lake because they lost their bread in the fondue

see, my childhood wasn't entirely wasted

― j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

they lost their bread in the fondue
=
best euphemism ever

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Naturism: definitely dud.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did anyone see that short film on C4 about 2 weeks ago about a couple having difficulties due to her naturism. I fell asleep before the end and do not know what happened.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

i saw a bit of that - it looked shite so i turned it off. i also think that flashing is a curiously british thing, but a bit more threatening than consensual mass adultery and/or playing ping pong in the buff...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 10:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

See what you mean - I want to shock, so I'll show you my knob, since that is shocking - only works with an attitude to sexuality and the body where such things are seen as almost shameful in themselves = britain.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 11:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah but i live in london and everyone i know loves a bit of random cock waving. obviously i wouldnt do it myself, but i applaud it whenever i see it

― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Your search - asterix fondue orgy image - did not match any documents"

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes Mark i too recall the fondue orgy bit in that particular tome...i wonder if i still have the book?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 19:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

I believe it was Asterix in Switzerland - that or Asterix and the Golden Sickle

― j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

definitely Switzerland. i found it all a bit nauseating as a child to be honest. off topic, has anyone ever eaten a wild boar Obelix style?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

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