The best thing about this UK by-election result to a non-UK-person like myself...

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...is the full list of candidates, as the story noted in a sidebar:

Robert Evans (Labour)
Uma Fernandes (Conservative)
Sarah Teather (Lib Dem)
Harold Immanuel (Independent Labour)
Kelly McBride (Independent)
Winston McKenzie (Independent)
Noel Lynch (Green)
Neil Walsh (Independent)
Alan Howling Lord Hope (Monster Raving Loony Party)
Jiten Bardwaj (No description)
Khidori Fawzi Ibrahim (Public Services Not War)
Brian Butterworth (Socialist Alliance)
Iris Cremer (Socialist Labour Party)
Brian Hall (UK Independence Party)
Rainbow George Weiss (WWW.XAT.ORG)
Aaron Barschack (No description)

WWW.XAT.ORG?

As for the result in general, Robin Carmody to thread!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 September 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't know that Aaron Barschack (AKA that rubbish comedian who crashed Prince William's bash in full Osama gear), had run.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Rainbow George was Peter Cook's hippie buddy wasn't he? The guy who tries to make money selling bootleg tapes of his and Cook's conversations?

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Rainbow George is indeed that person.

http://stabbers.muon.posiweb.net/stabbers/html/rainbow.htm

Chriddof (Chriddof), Friday, 19 September 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I can think of a few descriptions for Aaron Barshack.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 19 September 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

dam i was hoping it really was a pink hippo

stevem (blueski), Friday, 19 September 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

xat.org is not helping its cause by having such a hideous website

i'm quite impressed by Sarah Teather's age (29)

stevem (blueski), Friday, 19 September 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Ken must be secretly delighted they couldn't even hold his old seat.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 19 September 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

hooray for the lib dems. charles kennedy is definately my favorite uk politician, heck he's even presented Have I Got News For You!

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Friday, 19 September 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

That's my old constituency (and Toby's now I would have thought) The Lib dems used to campaign a hell of a lot more round there than anyone else (Labour = complacent/Tories = given up as a bad job?) So I'm not that surprised at the result, plus the turn out was probably ridiculously low.

chris (chris), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah 36% - almost euro-election level, eek!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought it was a good turnout for a mid-term by-election TBH; some of those had been 10% lower over recent years.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yup, nothing helps out your election chances by having a bright neon website with coloured balls dancing about.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

on ceefax it said the ballot papers were 42 INCHES long, however, on watching telly last night, they appeared to be 42 centimeters...

Sarah Teather becomes the youngest MP in the house (at the same age as me, there's still time yet ;))

the reason there were quite so many candidates this time probably had something to do with their not being a by-election for 19 months (is this a record? have all of our MPs suddenly become fitness freaks or summat? i'm sure they used to drop like flies), although at the last general election in Oxford East we had 9...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 19 September 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

and Toby's now I would have thought

indeed. we had literally 100s of leaflets through our door the last few days, it's been ridiculous - mind you according to the guardian today the lib dems alone printed a million leaflets for 60,000 voters, which i find a little implausible.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 19 September 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

The "No Description" Party sound like fun, I'd vote for them.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 19 September 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm disappointed that Rainbow George only got 11 votes.

Ed (dali), Friday, 19 September 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like to think that all the Independent candidates were standing on a ticket of taking themselves a bit too seriously and having a good sneer at frivolous Guardian readers.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 19 September 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

the real story here is that the Lib Dems now hold the constituencies still held in the first Blair parliament (97-01) by Ken Livingstone (as of this week ...) and Tony Benn (they won his old seat of Chesterfield when the latter retired in 2001), *and* they hold the constituencies still held for the first four years of the Blair era by renowned ultra-right-wing anti-EU Tory obsessives Patrick Nicholls (Teignbridge, Devon) and Christopher Gill (Ludlow, Shropshire). it's a major sea change in British politics and British society generally.

this may have something to do with the fact that the LDs were formed in 1988 - since which year there have only been three general elections - as a merger of the Liberal Party, which had the tradition in the more isolated rural areas which were less overwhelmingly Tory than rural "middle England", and the SDP, which was a breakaway of Labour centrists when the Labour Party swung to the hard-left in the early 80s and therefore had the stronger base in areas like Brent East. but I think it has even more to do with the great homogenisation of Britain and the erosion of locally-specific employment, the crushing of the trade unions *and* the power of the landowners, which eats away at the historic Labour and Tory support bases, merges them effectively into each other and makes tribalistic voting "because we always have round here" or "because my father did and my father before him" seem outmoded even to those who used to do it (my favourite description of social change in Britain is the line - either Martin Jacques or Peter Kellner - that we've changed from being a "people like us don't" society to a "well, why shouldn't I?" society).

meanwhile a new generation has emerged who would simply never vote tribalistically like that; it's just completely out of their experience. much of the old "automatic voting" has sadly given way to apathy and abstension, but it also opens the door for a rootless, non-geographically-based, multi-faceted party like the Lib Dems to thrive; they reflect the tone of this era very well precisely because they have no clear "heartland".

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 20 September 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)


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