This is the thread where I say (Pt. 4)

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Miles Davis on Sunday morning is God's little gift to the world.
There are very few bad moods I can't be shaken out of by a drive up the coast with loud music playing under the light of the moon.
No one ever believes me, but daisies really are my favorite flowers. I like dandelions, too, even if they are weeds.
I really want to spend Halloween on the pier in Santa Cruz this year, but it closes after Labor Day, and there seems to be less reason now.
'Wouldn't It Be Nice'?

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 21 September 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

(continuing the madness begun here: This is the thread where I say (pt. 3) - I really adore y'all)

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 21 September 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

christ almighty.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Why bother? Really? Do you get that big a kick out of it?

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

if the banality gets any deeper here, the floor is going to need to be taken out to accomodate.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.inspire21.com/Images/eCardART/Hang_in_there.jpg

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

No one's forcing you to read it, Jess. If you don't like it, if it's that much of a burden on you to cast your eyes upon our (my) banality, don't fucking well read it.

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

dear ilx:

Do not go gentle into that good night,

Old age should burn and rave at close of day;

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,

Because their words had forked no lightning they

Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright

Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,

And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,

Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight

Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,

Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.

Do not go gentle into that good night.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

love,
gabbo

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

there is key lime pie still in my fridge. i need someone to feed it to.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

HI I AM THE AMAZING RANDY

Amazing Randy, Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go.


On Mondays, I rise and whine.


I can't be fired. Slaves are sold!


I'm only here until I win the lottery!


It's an ugly job - and guess who's got to do it?!


Somehow my income never matches my outgo.


There's no job too simple for me to complicate.


Better days are coming. They're called Saturday and Sunday.


Work: Something to do between weekends.


For maximum attention, nothing beats a good mistake.


I don't have time to be this busy.


It's been one of those days all week.


I may look busy, but I'm just confused.


It could be worse, you could have MY job.


What's a nice person like me doing in a place like this?


The beatings will continue until morale improves.


Warning: The dates on the calendar are closer than they appear!


Tomorrow is today's greatest labor-saving device.


You don't have to be crazy to work here but it helps!


Do not underestimate your abilities. That is your boss's job.


I like work...I can sit and watch it for hours.


Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. --A.H. Weiler


Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off NOW.


I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.


Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar. --Drew Carey


Two can live as cheaply as one - if they both have good jobs. --Laurence Peter


Today is the start of a new error!


If you don't believe the dead come back to life, you should be here at quitting time!


Science may never come up with a better office communications system than the coffee break.


If you have a difficult task, give it to someone lazy; that person will find an easier way to do it.


Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. --Doug Larson


Some folks can look so busy doing nothin' that they seem indispensable. --Kin Hubbard


If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.


Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.


Don't be irreplaceable; if you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted.


A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.


Hard work never hurt anyone, but why take the chance?!


If idiots could fly, this place would be an airport!


The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was.


It sure does make the day long when you get to work on time!


Deadline for all complaints was yesterday!


I do my work at the same time each day - the last minute!


I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow is not looking good either.


Team effort: A lot of people doing what I say.


The man who can smile when things go wrong has probably thought of someone he can blame it on.


There cannot be a crisis this week; my schedule is already full.


Just when you thought you were winning the rat race, along come faster rats.


This isn't a desk. It's a landfill!


This isn't an office - It's Hell with fluorescent lighting.


I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me.


A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door.


Can I trade this job for what's behind door #2?


I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks.


How do I set a laser printer to stun?


You can have it right, or you can have it now, but you can't have it right now.


It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off.


My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!


It is chance that made us co-workers, but hearts that made us friends.


Fax is stranger than fiction.


A meeting is an event at which the minutes are kept and the hours are lost.


I could work faster, but why risk chipping a nail?


We're not gossiping; we're networking!


When work is a pleasure, life is a joy! When work is a duty, life is slavery. --Maxim Gorky


I've used up all my sick days, now I have to call in DEAD!


I need less week and more weekend.


Find a job you love and you'll never have to work a day in your life.--Jim Fox

If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm. --Vince Lombardi


Variety may be the spice of life, but monotony provides the groceries.


Tell your boss what you think of him and the truth shall set you free.


A job is nice but it interferes with my life.


When the bosses talk about improving productivity they are never talking about themselves.


All I want is less to do, more time to do it, and higher pay for not getting it done.


To be employed in useless things is to be half idle. --Thomas Fuller


We the unwilling, led by the unqualified, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.


I hate coffee - it keeps me awake at work!


Doing the job right the first time gets the job done. Doing the job wrong 14 times gives you job security.


Just when you think you've won the rat race along come faster rats.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hatin' on the "where I say" threads is so rockist.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Or is it so high school? I forget.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

ts: high school vs. the orthodonists office secretaries pool.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

One is for the sleeping with, one is for the drinking with.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Deez Nuts to aisle 3--Deez Nuts, aisle 3

Kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

yo to all my ilx niggas still in da game-stay strong dont never quit/i bet some of u thought u had ur first pube till u pissed outta it

_(#/\#)_, Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

watch me pop posters like a zit, or a baloon or s'thing/yo do yall really think they created Live Journal for nothin???

_(#/\#)_, Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's high time certain individuals get the hell away from these "This is the thread where I say" threads, because they just don't fucking get it. This may seem a bit cutting and mean at the moment, but the people I read entries from in this thread series are some of the sweetest and nicest people I've ever gotten a chance to know and I think they deserve these threads as their own little ILX niche, so of course I'm going to defend their right to post here.

And in other thoughts....

I love living here, but then again I hate living here. I feel so comfortable and at home in this location, but at the same time I constantly feel its limits and boundaries. I wish living here wasn't such a compromise, because if it wasn't I'd definitely be planning on spending all my days here, but I feel like there's going to be a time when I will be compelled to look for other places to live, and the time may be coming close. EXCEPT, I don't know if this would be a pipe dream or not.

Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes I wonder if I ever found anything likable in jess or am just too damn generous.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the thread where I say that, but what isn't?

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU WOULD THINK TO SEE MY TATTOS?

Amazing Randy, Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you REALLY have anything all that interesting to contribute to ILE, jess? People say you do so on ILM, and I believe them -- it wouldn't surprise me. It only surprises me that you're so colossally useless and irritating on ILE. Do you actually have anything to say, or are you just determined to point out your problems with what everyone else says?

If you're as miserable and frustrated by ILE as you say, I'm glad. You have the board you've earned.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish people would stop trampling on gabbo's delicate flower

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Good for you.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, I used to really like you. But lately your self-hatred turned outwards and weaponized has become old and annoying. Go fuck yourself.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that's not really a fair assessment of things.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I've used up all my sick days, now I have to call in DEAD!

that is funny as hell to me for some reason.

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there any need for a fair assessment of things?

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

That's *my* assessment of things Ro, and from my pov it's fair. If Jess can't handle people attacking him, well then shit he shouldn't attack other people. right?

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.xpresssites.com/lee/lacrosse/xppromotions/def/images/promos/Ma-Cal%20Grove%20Country%20Club.gif

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

That coupon is almost a year out of date.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not even worth my arguing

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

All I mean, Ronan, is that ultimately Jess's reasons aren't important to me, because it's his actions that are irritating. I don't care if it's self-hatred or what. If everything he's said about nu-this vs nu-that were right, it wouldn't make him any less of a dick.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes suicide is the best option.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

jokes about suicide, how witty

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Who's joking?

oops (Oops), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i fear for the future of our children.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Hopefully you won't be having any.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

oops you must feel like king of the castle to have fallen in with this bunch, eh?

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"in the land of the blind, a man with a mucousy half-eye dribbling a little over his shirt is god."

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"hopefully YOU'LL go blind soon!" < /oops>

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"you haven't had any kids (thats a good thing) *slavers*"

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh jess! It's so very nice that you're around to save ILE from falling into the hands of banality. Only you can truly see the world. Your perspective is obviously the correct one.
Keep up the struggle!

oops (Oops), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

sigh/cry

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

actually this is more like the wake.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

If oops was suggesting suicide for Jess, that's way over the line. It's not like I'd punch Jess if I saw him in the street or anything. I don't think we'd even argue (Jess can answer that as well as I can, obviously).

I didn't mind the criticism and whining when it wasn't as prevalent, and when it wasn't the bulk (the total?) of his posts on ILE. At this point, they seem to be the only thing he has left for us.

And it isn't the wake, Jess. It isn't going away just because you don't like it. Even you're still here, for Christ's sake. Are you still trying to figure out how to be interesting? There are books and stuff. They might help.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

"Even when a tree falls it can sustain a vibrant growth of parasites and fungus for many, many years to come."

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Or maybe if you scrinch your eyes up weally weally tight and cry a little louder, Mommy and Daddy will give you your old room back so you know they wuv you. And then everything will be all right again and the new baby won't be as threatening.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Take all of this off this thread. Go compare cock sizes somewhere else please.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Cool, I love that fillum!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

boooo. i didn't get my piece of the quarterly bonus today, since i've only been full time since June. Feh.

oh well.

also, a large financial office building staffed by midwestern breeder suburbanites is perhaps not the hippest place to get my Crazy 88 costume. Such is life.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

*blushes*

Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

why?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm a bad bad girl. I'm heading for trouble, see it coming and am going to regret it when it happens. yet i go on. . .

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

what, getting involved with more interesting people?

Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

well let's see. . . maybe in fact it's not *so* bad. I'm not exclusive with either boy involved. However they were former friends who now want to kill each other. I have a feeling if they knew I was seeing the both of them. . .well maybe they'd want to kill me.

whatever. that bs is their business. I just find myself chatting with both at once - having hott chat with one and matter of course chat with another thinking "man, i'd better not mix these windows up. . ."

maybe I have a NaNoWriMo book on my hands.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

You just need to kill them and sew their corpses together into one perfect boy.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, build them into your story. Then, at the end of the month, you can just give them each a copy.
Surprise! I wrote a book! And you're in it! And so is that guy you hate!

That's how I'm going to let NA in on my secret life outside the home.

But yeah, who knows what the future may bring? If you end up sticking with one of them for a while and they really care about you, they'll get over it.

(x post) or, What nickalicious said.

I have the headache from hell. And yet I continue playing on iLX. I am a fool.

Sarah MClusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a friend who would accidentally type hott chat into our chat window all the time. We'd be talking about whatever, and then all of a sudden he'd say "uncut?" and then I'd get to harangue him for details about exactly who he was asking that about this time.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick has the key to your book.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Sam, have you ever had sex with one person whilst having phone sex with another, that other thinking you are alone?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I made out with someone who was making out with someone else once without that other person realizing I was doing any making out. I can't really give details, though.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

no martin. and nick and sarah have given me good ideas.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The receptionist just walked in to my office and straight up to my desk. I was in the middle of googling "Scary clown" to put on the Clown thread.

She said, "What are you looking at?"
I said, "Scary clowns."
She pauses.
Then she asks, "Why?"
I pause.
Then I say, "I dunno. I guess because it's Halloween."
She slowly walked away.

Sarah Mclusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Meanwhile, there are lots of kids screaming outside. I'm assuming they are trick-or-treating at the office complex. Better safe to assume than just go check it out.

Ok, I'm lazy.

But they sounded like happy screams!

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

That's because I'm KILLING THEM...with kindness.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

okay since we are talking about trashiness. . who has had two different people in their bed in a 12 hour period? (you have to put on fresh sheets of course. other wise that is really trashy.)

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Today I feel like planning a road trip to meet as many ILXors as possible.

(Nick, do you have any interest in Scary Movie III?)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

*raises hand* M-... Oh, yeah, that would be really sick if you didn't change the sheets, huh? I mean REALLY sick. I get shivers just thinking about it.

Actually, no.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

(I have no interest in Scary Movie III)

We could drive to Montreal and go to slutsky's Halloween party.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I like how the later in the workweek it gets, the giddier the posts on ILX get.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, more than 2 and less than 12 hours!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

who has had two different people in their bed in a 12 hour period?

JESUS! some of you really do need to start spilling your stories...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, just go get Penthouse Forum or something, pervo.

oops (Oops), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

shut it! make with the stories!

Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Do other people's beds in a 24 hour period count?

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes.

Abd ditto Martin.

luna (luna.c), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, what about if they're in your bed at the same time?

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

that too

luna (luna.c), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

What if one of them is a chimpanzee?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Double bonus points.

luna (luna.c), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

What's the most people who've been shagging together on your bed at one time? Mine is 4.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I found my futon in an alley. So who knows?

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know!

No wonder Joei is so calm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin, I think you're starting to make Sam look like a nun here. ;)

(Which would mean you make me feel like... yikes... a cloistered nun from the '50s. Or your grandmother. Whichever one's more conservative.)

Sarah and Nick, I've added you both to my buddy list. Hurrah!

I should be downstairs, getting ready to leave, but I don't wanna. I want to stay here, pass out candy, and watch Rocky Horror at the same time. Why can't I do that?

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Dee why can't you?

Kingfish not much to share. Sometimes sleep with more than one person a day. End of story.

Martin, you win. Surpising even to me I have thus far only shagged one person at a time.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The above was just talking about an actual bed, too! The number of people I've had sex with at one time is larger than that, but it was on the floor.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 November 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

sounds more convenient that way.

accessible, if you will.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 1 November 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin! I truly am seeing a side to you that i never realised existed.
Today is saturday & I still have a headache, it's so unfair this one has lasted for a week. James says I'm not allowed on here for long as it wont help, which is true, still!
Everyone have good w/e's! Adios.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Saturday, 1 November 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

It's hardly a side of me that I've kept quiet - I thought it was stuff that I had talked about far too much, but maybe not if you haven't heard any of it at all. It's all to do with a wild period of my life after over two decades of monogamy. It's a while since my sex life has existed at all, let alone involved more than one other person.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 November 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Apols Martin I wasn't being funny, jst not something I've ever heard you talk about before is all. I think good luck to ya!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Saturday, 1 November 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

No apology necessary - I wasn't at all irritated, just surprised. I do try not to talk about it all the time, as people get bored or think I'm bragging or something.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 November 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Pink just hasn't been around long enough (or in AIM enough) to know Martin: Swinger. It's such an endearing side of you sweetie!

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Saturday, 1 November 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, thanks. I was only a swinger for a relatively short time, but it was fun while it lasted.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 November 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought I was smutty but I've been a bit bemused by the last 40 or so posts :/

Mark C (Mark C), Saturday, 1 November 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i think we're gunna need a new thread for all this. we're already up to 1300+ posts...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 1 November 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

so?

oops (Oops), Saturday, 1 November 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

New thread started up by Sarah here...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)


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