― anthony, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― jess, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jonnie, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Yep, it's complicated.
― Dr. C, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
There are six balls bowled each over, and there are a variety of different bowling styles such as fast bowling (80-90 mph) and spin bowlin (40-50 mph)...the bowlers aim is both to restrict runs and get wickets. The intracacies of bowling are hard to explain. Runs are scored by running between the wicket, or if the ball goes out of the playing area to the boundary rope it is singles as a 4, if the ball passes the boundary rope whilst in the air it is a 6. Runs are also scored by leg byes, byes, wides and no-balls.
It's probably best to watch cricket to get a good understanding of the game. The best team in the world is Australia. Hope this helps alittle!
― jel, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gareth, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sam, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sarah, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Emma, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Disco Dave, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Geoff, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
***Hence off-spin and leg-spin (also off-break and leg-break), which bounce on the respective side of the batsman***.
It doesn't make any difference where they bounce - it's the direction the ball goes AFTER it has bounced which gives rise to the terms off- spin and leg-spin.
**Swing = when fast bowler spins the ball hard and it moves in the air***
The bowler doesn't SPIN it. Instead the seam is placed so that it is pointing to slip (out-swing) or fine-leg (in-swing). The best chance of getting swing is to use the fingers and wrist to keep the seam in that position when it goes thru the air. (It may move off the pitch in the same direction if the seam hits). The bowler can also influence this by the position of the front foot and by sweeping the bowling hand down the correct side of the body AFTER the ball has gone. If the seam wobbles in the air, you've less chance of knowing which way, and how much it will move (both in the air and off the pitch).
Reverse swing is when you go for outswing, but at the last minute the ball darts in towards leg after 'shaping' to go off-side. I've get to see a convincing explanation of HOW it's done, but it's a bastard to play!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
To get around to the answer, Tracer, most bowlers do not get any appreciable swing - even if they follow the textbook. There seems to be something about swing bowlers actions which is not entirely coachable, whereas most people can get some movement off the pitch (seam-bowlng).
Occasionally even the best swing bowlers findthey can't control the amount of swing and get TOO MUCH movement so that the batsman doesn't need to play the ball.
If you really wnat to get wierd about bowling we can talk about leg- spin, where the top bowlers have several viciousl spinning deliveries which are bowled with slightly different actions. Some spin one way, some the other, some keep low, some go straight on and some are bowled with lots of disguise to look like one of the other deliveries. It's bluff and double-bluff.
― anthony, Saturday, 29 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
It is an almost magical combination of the use of rare skill and athleticism, aerodynamics, and exploiting natural phenomena.
It requires humidity to create a more dense air mass, and for the ball to be buffed to a shine ON ONE SIDE OF THE SEAM ONLY.
When the ball is bowled with the upright seam and the extra spin along the axis through the seam imparted by the bowler's index and middle fingers along it, with a smooth,shiny ball face one side and an unrestored mucky one that creates more friction, for the same reasons planes fly, the ball swings to one side in the thicker air.
It usually also dips sharply, sometimes VERY sharply, and the extra energy this generates gives it tremendous bounce off the pitch, while the combination of the seam hitting the pitch, at an angle created by the bowler, affected by the other forces such as rate of spin, can make that bounce extremely variable in height and direction.
The bowler's action, and precise preparation of one side of the ball, without tampering, and the required air density, are the keys, and it's awesome to watch!
Glen McGrath, Brett Lee and Jason Gillespie are the best exponents of the art.
Cricket - Ballet and War, with Bats and Balls! ...lol
Greetings fellow posters. Nice to see so many erudite, informed individuals.
The US also has hundreds of cricket teams, and must surely be on the verge of entering a team in even a one-day match? That would be great.
Today in OZ I predict the Aussie batsmen will be smashing the world record for a final innings to defeat New Zealand...their form says they'll do it, but either way it will be FUN!!!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing an interest in cricket.
― Brett Fielding, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 May 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark C (Mark C), Saturday, 24 May 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― darren (darren), Sunday, 25 May 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)
No, I'm not complaining. But the conditions would have been perfect for him on the first couple of days. It's a shame, he's almost 29 and for reasons of family pride I want him to get a decent stab at it.
― Mark C (Mark C), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 May 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)
of course, the cute new zealand bowler made watching like 10 hours of cricket so much more interesting:http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2002/sep/23vet.jpg
― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 26 May 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Dada), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)
1) Notts failed to get more than ONE bonus point from their game2) Yorkshire and Durham drew3) Durham got maximum batting points.
Astonishingly, 1) and 3) have already come true, and 2) looks to be very much on the cards barring an absolute mare for Durham tomorrow.
Notts would have got the 2 bonus points by taking 7 or more Sussex wickets inside 130 overs, an occurrence which happens in almost every single Championship game. With an abysmal bowling display, they took just 6, accruing one point.
Notts would then have got the 1 further point they needed by scoring only 200 runs in their own first innings. Sussex had scored 550-odd for 6, so the pitch would seem to have been ideally suited to this.
They crumbled from 130-2 to 165 all out.
One of the biggest chokes in recent British sporting history?
(P.S. I'm a Worcs fan)
― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
anyone following the test in hamilton?
― whatever, Saturday, 8 March 2008 22:36 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, thought so.
― whatever, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)
me, but its a bit of a foregone conclusion now innit
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)
just looked at the scorecard at lunch. 36/4 from 18 overs. the scores of cook and vaughan total 22 runs from 33 balls, which means the rest of the sorry crew have made 12 runs from just under 13 overs. A run an over???
fraser's comments are spot on: england would never have declared as vettori did. they'd have waited until about 3 balls before tea, just in case mccullum hit 50 sixes in a row.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:02 (seventeen years ago)
Do colly and bell have the bottle to survive? Better in this situation than KP and co but that doesn't mean anything.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:09 (seventeen years ago)
they'll survive for the best part of an hour or so, in the english way. i'd be very surprised if the match goes into the final session, once the spinners get into their ribs and there are 4 or 5 around the bat.
funny how these things cycle. england outclassed at rugby today, being outclassed at cricket in a country where they probably expected to win, and going through transition in football. contrast to a few years ago: rugby world cup holders, ashes winners, rooney breaking into the england team...
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:12 (seventeen years ago)
Well, as a scotsman I enjoyed the rugby at least :) The cricket was sadly more predictable.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:20 (seventeen years ago)
As a working class Englishman living oop North I enjoyed the rugby.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:21 (seventeen years ago)
You enjoy England getting beat at anything, Jim.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:23 (seventeen years ago)
I've always wanted to see England score 800. Incredible. Disappointed they declared but its better than a collapse haha
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 10 October 2024 09:15 (eleven months ago)
Insane. England have now scored three out of the four the highest innings totals in Tests.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 October 2024 09:20 (eleven months ago)
omg first ball. How must he feel after being in the field so long
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 10 October 2024 09:20 (eleven months ago)
Also: Harry Brook now has - for a day or two - the second highest test average of all-time, behind Bradman.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 10 October 2024 09:33 (eleven months ago)
this is some proper end-of-days stuff. they need to sack masood, drop babar and fire the entire pcb
― imago, Thursday, 10 October 2024 10:37 (eleven months ago)
Five down!
― groovypanda, Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:09 (eleven months ago)
Excellent, exciting stuff.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 October 2024 13:08 (eleven months ago)
fire the entire pcb
Isn't the issue here that its all political and the government appoints the members after each general election?
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 10 October 2024 15:46 (eleven months ago)
Yeah not sure Masood is to blame tbh
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 10 October 2024 16:34 (eleven months ago)
Lol @ firing ppl. Management bollocks.
This is great stuff. Test cricket can be genuinely exciting to a lot of the public again if its like this.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 09:43 (eleven months ago)
How many tests like this would've been a draw in the past?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 09:44 (eleven months ago)
All of them :)
I can't claim to have followed Test cricket that closely in the last 40-odd years but my impression was always: ENG concede 400+ runs in opening innings = can't possibly win, hope for a battling draw or bad weather. That was kind of how it went with run rates back in the day.And this is now the third time in a row England have won after conceding 500+ runs in the first innings?
― Michael Jones, Friday, 11 October 2024 10:10 (eleven months ago)
Someone on my twitter tl pulled this out as an example of where things were at..
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jun/06/england-new-zealand-first-test-day-five-match-report
Personally, I can watch boring tests all day long, but the public have not been enthusiastic about test cricket for a long time. In Eng there is more of an offer via the Ashes...anyway, its wild to see this coming along.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 10:17 (eleven months ago)
Pitches like that really aren't good, but Pakistan's meltdown, while eventually 'exciting' for England fans, felt fairly inevitable given their confidence as a team. I watched them against Bangladesh and it was the same story, they just melted down in the second innings. England's batters were utterly ruthless (as they were on the previous tour) and set up a victory push that was guaranteed as soon as Shafique swung and missed at a straight ball out of the gate.
And then this absolute clown of a skipper blames the bowlers: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pak-vs-eng-1st-test-shan-masood-scathing-in-criticism-of-bowlers-but-not-batters-after-multan-humiliation-1454850
I don't think a pitch like that could host a gripping Test. It could host a slugfest where one side low on confidence eventually falls to pieces. I wouldn't have called the cricket exciting before that though, there was basically no risk to batting
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2024 11:22 (eleven months ago)
"I don't think a pitch like that could host a gripping Test."
It just has lol
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 11:30 (eleven months ago)
Oops. India all out for 46 vs. NZ.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2024 10:08 (eleven months ago)
judging by this they did pretty well to get 46
Opening spell of NewZealand bowlers Vs India (ball by ball). 🔥#INDvNZpic.twitter.com/5FRLKz9Ovn https://t.co/oL3Y5ikL6G— 𝙕𝙞𝙠𝙧𝙞𝙖 (@googly_555) October 17, 2024
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 17 October 2024 10:23 (eleven months ago)
Five ducks.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2024 11:14 (eleven months ago)
Classic unfolding, this
― imago, Saturday, 19 October 2024 10:07 (eleven months ago)
"And then this absolute clown of a skipper"
Shan Masood, the Pakistan captain, said: “If you want to be one of the top teams in the world you have to learn to play in all conditions.”
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 October 2024 15:04 (eleven months ago)
LOL @ Stokes putting India in with the sun splitting the sky and the temperature nudging 30 degrees.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 20 June 2025 18:21 (three months ago)
and without a bowling attack at his disposal either!
― imago, Friday, 20 June 2025 18:37 (three months ago)
Three Indian centurions now. Doh!
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 June 2025 11:13 (three months ago)
You know who has even less of a bowling attack though?
― imago, Tuesday, 24 June 2025 11:29 (three months ago)
difficult with three bowlers
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 13:34 (three months ago)
Given Jadeja's record in England I'd say two and a half at best
― imago, Tuesday, 24 June 2025 13:41 (three months ago)
it seems to be turning a bit but he's not putting it on the spot enough
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 13:46 (three months ago)
What a great test match and it's so good to see an England team that isn't scared of chasing down a high 4th innings target. It's even better having confidence in them to do that. It's not so long ago that teams would settle for a draw.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 18:11 (three months ago)
:/
― imago, Friday, 27 June 2025 12:16 (three months ago)
How great was that match? I didn't think the bails were going to fall. I'm surprised none of you heard my shouting for joy from all the way up here.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Monday, 14 July 2025 17:16 (two months ago)
Yes, great stuff. India getting the score one single at a time would have been amazing though.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Monday, 14 July 2025 17:19 (two months ago)
It looked really great.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 July 2025 17:37 (two months ago)
It was phenomenal. Stokes has a way of bending reality to his will against logic
― imago, Monday, 14 July 2025 18:28 (two months ago)
Gambhir however has some questions to answer
Australia 11-6 vs West indies
― nxd, Monday, 14 July 2025 20:07 (two months ago)
Sadly the other way around
― imago, Monday, 14 July 2025 20:10 (two months ago)
WI batting has long been a joke but handing old Starcy the quickest 5fer in Test history is a new low
― imago, Monday, 14 July 2025 20:11 (two months ago)
There's also something very unfortunate indeed that's been overshadowing this series and hasn't been handled at all well. I don't know much about it but I assume SV has the details
― imago, Monday, 14 July 2025 20:21 (two months ago)
They were 0/3 after the first over
― groovypanda, Monday, 14 July 2025 20:24 (two months ago)
They’ve steadied the ship at 18/6.
It is difficult to know how much the allegations hanging over one of the players have affected the squad as a whole. Doesn’t seem to have affected the player in question much but I can’t imagine it’s easy for everybody else.
― ShariVari, Monday, 14 July 2025 20:33 (two months ago)
New Zealand still has the lowest test score - but it came under serious threat today.
― aphoristical, Monday, 14 July 2025 21:28 (two months ago)
This England v India test series was fantastic.
― Corny Capitalism (Tom D.), Monday, 4 August 2025 11:03 (one month ago)
Yep! Amazing conclusion
― imago, Monday, 4 August 2025 11:44 (one month ago)
Great ad for the game, as they say
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 August 2025 11:53 (one month ago)
Fantastic stuff. Epic performance from Siraj.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 4 August 2025 13:37 (one month ago)
Just perfectly balanced, exceptional series.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 4 August 2025 21:53 (one month ago)
Think that's probably the most one sided match I've ever seen between two top tier nations. Winning by 342 runs in a 50 over match is just astonishing
― groovypanda, Sunday, 7 September 2025 17:06 (three weeks ago)
I can only imagine South Africa had one hell of a party the other night.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 7 September 2025 17:37 (three weeks ago)
West Indies: What Now FFS
― imago, Monday, 29 September 2025 19:01 (yesterday)
Second string sure but they just got beaten twice by a country that's just been couped via Discord
― imago, Monday, 29 September 2025 19:02 (yesterday)