Cricket

Yep, it's complicated.

There are six balls bowled each over, and there are a variety of different bowling styles such as fast bowling (80-90 mph) and spin bowlin (40-50 mph)...the bowlers aim is both to restrict runs and get wickets. The intracacies of bowling are hard to explain. Runs are scored by running between the wicket, or if the ball goes out of the playing area to the boundary rope it is singles as a 4, if the ball passes the boundary rope whilst in the air it is a 6. Runs are also scored by leg byes, byes, wides and no-balls.

It's probably best to watch cricket to get a good understanding of the game. The best team in the world is Australia. Hope this helps alittle!

***Hence off-spin and leg-spin (also off-break and leg-break), which bounce on the respective side of the batsman***.

It doesn't make any difference where they bounce - it's the direction the ball goes AFTER it has bounced which gives rise to the terms off- spin and leg-spin.

**Swing = when fast bowler spins the ball hard and it moves in the air***

The bowler doesn't SPIN it. Instead the seam is placed so that it is pointing to slip (out-swing) or fine-leg (in-swing). The best chance of getting swing is to use the fingers and wrist to keep the seam in that position when it goes thru the air. (It may move off the pitch in the same direction if the seam hits). The bowler can also influence this by the position of the front foot and by sweeping the bowling hand down the correct side of the body AFTER the ball has gone. If the seam wobbles in the air, you've less chance of knowing which way, and how much it will move (both in the air and off the pitch).

Reverse swing is when you go for outswing, but at the last minute the ball darts in towards leg after 'shaping' to go off-side. I've get to see a convincing explanation of HOW it's done, but it's a bastard to play!

To get around to the answer, Tracer, most bowlers do not get any appreciable swing - even if they follow the textbook. There seems to be something about swing bowlers actions which is not entirely coachable, whereas most people can get some movement off the pitch (seam-bowlng).

Occasionally even the best swing bowlers findthey can't control the amount of swing and get TOO MUCH movement so that the batsman doesn't need to play the ball.

If you really wnat to get wierd about bowling we can talk about leg- spin, where the top bowlers have several viciousl spinning deliveries which are bowled with slightly different actions. Some spin one way, some the other, some keep low, some go straight on and some are bowled with lots of disguise to look like one of the other deliveries. It's bluff and double-bluff.

It is an almost magical combination of the use of rare skill and athleticism, aerodynamics, and exploiting natural phenomena.

It requires humidity to create a more dense air mass, and for the ball to be buffed to a shine ON ONE SIDE OF THE SEAM ONLY.

When the ball is bowled with the upright seam and the extra spin along the axis through the seam imparted by the bowler's index and middle fingers along it, with a smooth,shiny ball face one side and an unrestored mucky one that creates more friction, for the same reasons planes fly, the ball swings to one side in the thicker air.

It usually also dips sharply, sometimes VERY sharply, and the extra energy this generates gives it tremendous bounce off the pitch, while the combination of the seam hitting the pitch, at an angle created by the bowler, affected by the other forces such as rate of spin, can make that bounce extremely variable in height and direction.

The bowler's action, and precise preparation of one side of the ball, without tampering, and the required air density, are the keys, and it's awesome to watch!

Glen McGrath, Brett Lee and Jason Gillespie are the best exponents of the art.

Cricket - Ballet and War, with Bats and Balls! ...lol

Greetings fellow posters. Nice to see so many erudite, informed individuals.

The US also has hundreds of cricket teams, and must surely be on the verge of entering a team in even a one-day match? That would be great.

Today in OZ I predict the Aussie batsmen will be smashing the world record for a final innings to defeat New Zealand...their form says they'll do it, but either way it will be FUN!!!!!!!!

Thanks for sharing an interest in cricket.

No, I'm not complaining. But the conditions would have been perfect for him on the first couple of days. It's a shame, he's almost 29 and for reasons of family pride I want him to get a decent stab at it.

of course, the cute new zealand bowler made watching like 10 hours of cricket so much more interesting:
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2002/sep/23vet.jpg

1) Notts failed to get more than ONE bonus point from their game
2) Yorkshire and Durham drew
3) Durham got maximum batting points.

Astonishingly, 1) and 3) have already come true, and 2) looks to be very much on the cards barring an absolute mare for Durham tomorrow.

Notts would have got the 2 bonus points by taking 7 or more Sussex wickets inside 130 overs, an occurrence which happens in almost every single Championship game. With an abysmal bowling display, they took just 6, accruing one point.

Notts would then have got the 1 further point they needed by scoring only 200 runs in their own first innings. Sussex had scored 550-odd for 6, so the pitch would seem to have been ideally suited to this.

They crumbled from 130-2 to 165 all out.

One of the biggest chokes in recent British sporting history?

(P.S. I'm a Worcs fan)

anyone following the test in hamilton?

yeah, thought so.

me, but its a bit of a foregone conclusion now innit

just looked at the scorecard at lunch. 36/4 from 18 overs. the scores of cook and vaughan total 22 runs from 33 balls, which means the rest of the sorry crew have made 12 runs from just under 13 overs. A run an over???

fraser's comments are spot on: england would never have declared as vettori did. they'd have waited until about 3 balls before tea, just in case mccullum hit 50 sixes in a row.

Do colly and bell have the bottle to survive? Better in this situation than KP and co but that doesn't mean anything.

they'll survive for the best part of an hour or so, in the english way. i'd be very surprised if the match goes into the final session, once the spinners get into their ribs and there are 4 or 5 around the bat.

funny how these things cycle. england outclassed at rugby today, being outclassed at cricket in a country where they probably expected to win, and going through transition in football. contrast to a few years ago: rugby world cup holders, ashes winners, rooney breaking into the england team...

Well, as a scotsman I enjoyed the rugby at least :) The cricket was sadly more predictable.

As a working class Englishman living oop North I enjoyed the rugby.

You enjoy England getting beat at anything, Jim.

its all in the mindset installed in them by coach and captain. Such a huge difference between that and the England we all grew up with.

this from the guardian report is interesting:

Stokes typically made his own telling contribution on the day, with a jaw-dropping direct hit on the dive to run out the dangerous Ravindra Jadeja from wide mid-on and leave his fellow all-rounder hobbling off with a hamstring tweak. But perhaps his biggest impact was the husbandry of Hartley, incredibly the third spinner under his watch after Will Jacks and Rehan Ahmed last winter to start his Test career with a five-wicket haul.

i wonder how long mccullum will be around

cunt team managed by cunts plays like cunts idk maybe i'm missing something

Somebody just tried to explain cricket to me and they pulled this insane graphic up. There's no way this is real. Be serious. pic.twitter.com/xEAxdFfbV1

— Hispanic Shaun King (@okimstillhungry) February 15, 2024

Me sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!

Me reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck. pic.twitter.com/xKs600BjNp

— DAISY CUTTER (@daisycutterzine) February 17, 2024

lol

Beautiful

Very funny

Classic England

well done Ireland, their first victory in Tests!

Super over for usa pakistan

Boy that was startling to read!

I know West Indies are rubbish but that's quite a test debut.

right, three in four balls too. really good slip catching to support.

right, three in four balls too. really good slip catching to support.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-under-19s-in-india-2024-25-1450208/india-under-19s-vs-australia-under-19s-1st-unofficial-test-1450217/live-cricket-score

Chap called Vaibhav Suryavanshi smashing Aus U19s everywhere. Click on his profile for an insane surprise

wtf! lol.

waht is problem, he's under 19, yeah?

I absolutely love that Jaiswal has helped set a Test record today and still gotten arguably upstaged by another left-handed opener nearly 10 years his junior

we regret to inform you the child is probably in fact 15

Bit reckless to declare with 1000 in reach.

I was checking the cricinfo records for 4th-wicket stands yesterday, thinking it'd be nice if these two made the lower reaches of that list. Now they're top.

I've always wanted to see England score 800. Incredible. Disappointed they declared but its better than a collapse haha

Insane. England have now scored three out of the four the highest innings totals in Tests.

omg first ball. How must he feel after being in the field so long

Also: Harry Brook now has - for a day or two - the second highest test average of all-time, behind Bradman.

this is some proper end-of-days stuff. they need to sack masood, drop babar and fire the entire pcb

Five down!

Excellent, exciting stuff.

fire the entire pcb

Isn't the issue here that its all political and the government appoints the members after each general election?

Yeah not sure Masood is to blame tbh

Lol @ firing ppl. Management bollocks.

This is great stuff. Test cricket can be genuinely exciting to a lot of the public again if its like this.

How many tests like this would've been a draw in the past?

All of them :)

I can't claim to have followed Test cricket that closely in the last 40-odd years but my impression was always: ENG concede 400+ runs in opening innings = can't possibly win, hope for a battling draw or bad weather. That was kind of how it went with run rates back in the day.
And this is now the third time in a row England have won after conceding 500+ runs in the first innings?

Someone on my twitter tl pulled this out as an example of where things were at..

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jun/06/england-new-zealand-first-test-day-five-match-report

Personally, I can watch boring tests all day long, but the public have not been enthusiastic about test cricket for a long time. In Eng there is more of an offer via the Ashes...anyway, its wild to see this coming along.

Pitches like that really aren't good, but Pakistan's meltdown, while eventually 'exciting' for England fans, felt fairly inevitable given their confidence as a team. I watched them against Bangladesh and it was the same story, they just melted down in the second innings. England's batters were utterly ruthless (as they were on the previous tour) and set up a victory push that was guaranteed as soon as Shafique swung and missed at a straight ball out of the gate.

And then this absolute clown of a skipper blames the bowlers: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pak-vs-eng-1st-test-shan-masood-scathing-in-criticism-of-bowlers-but-not-batters-after-multan-humiliation-1454850

I don't think a pitch like that could host a gripping Test. It could host a slugfest where one side low on confidence eventually falls to pieces. I wouldn't have called the cricket exciting before that though, there was basically no risk to batting

"I don't think a pitch like that could host a gripping Test."

It just has lol

Oops. India all out for 46 vs. NZ.

judging by this they did pretty well to get 46

Opening spell of NewZealand bowlers Vs India (ball by ball). 🔥#INDvNZpic.twitter.com/5FRLKz9Ovn https://t.co/oL3Y5ikL6G

— 𝙕𝙞𝙠𝙧𝙞𝙖 (@googly_555) October 17, 2024

Five ducks.

Classic unfolding, this

"And then this absolute clown of a skipper"

Shan Masood, the Pakistan captain, said: “If you want to be one of the top teams in the world you have to learn to play in all conditions.”

LOL @ Stokes putting India in with the sun splitting the sky and the temperature nudging 30 degrees.

and without a bowling attack at his disposal either!

Three Indian centurions now. Doh!

You know who has even less of a bowling attack though?

difficult with three bowlers

Given Jadeja's record in England I'd say two and a half at best

it seems to be turning a bit but he's not putting it on the spot enough

What a great test match and it's so good to see an England team that isn't scared of chasing down a high 4th innings target. It's even better having confidence in them to do that. It's not so long ago that teams would settle for a draw.

:/