studying for the gre?

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okay so i want to go to grad school maybe and that means i need to take the gre and that means i need to at least sorta study.

i have no idea what the test is like or anything.

anybody who's done this recently have advice w/r/t test manuals, what to expect, funny stories, anything?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 5 October 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

The Verbal and the Quantitative are pretty much just like the Verbal and Math sections of the SAT, just harder. But same types of questions.

The Analytical section -- which might not matter, depending on what you're doing; a number of programs told me point blank, "We won't even look at that, don't worry" -- is like those logic problems you've probably had at some point. Bob, Ted, Carol, and Alice each have a car and a piece of fruit. The owner of the Camaro has an orange. Alice's fruit is juicier than Ted's. Bob has a Corvette. The person with the persimmon does not have a sports-car. Etc.

I think they're all done on computer now, aren't they, no paper tests? (The main test, anyway, I don't know about subject tests.)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 5 October 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Because of the answer funneling system, you'll probably be horribly aware of when you get a math question wrong. Like if you aren't sure about a Calc one and up pops "what is 9 x 2?" afterward, you probably got the previous one wrong.

bnw (bnw), Sunday, 5 October 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I wouldn't even say harder than the SAT, it's just that you're probably rusty since it's been at least two or three years since you studied for these things.

My advice is just to pick up a study guide or two and spend a little bit of time with it for a few weeks. If you did reasonably well with the SATs, there's nothing to panic over, only some stuff to brush up on.

Find out which sections the schools you're applying to are asking for, and for that matter, which they'd be likely to care about. I applied for a film program at a school where all grad applicants had to have taken the GRE, but I doubt they'd care much about my math scores.

As for the test itself, you'll probably find this out one way or another, but it's all on computer now. This has the great benefit of being able to have your score when you walk out of the place (except for the writing section - if you need to even do that). The way it works is that it starts you out with 500 pts, and the first question is a middle-difficulty question. If you answer that correctly, you'll get points and get a question on par with your now-higher score. If you miss the first question, you'll lose points, but your next question will be easier, since it will be on par with your score.

The catch with all that is that the first five questions are weighted the most - the first is 100 pts, then they start to be worth a little less each time. Everything from #6 onwards is about 10 or so points, so missing the first few so as to get easy questions for the rest of the test is not a good idea. If you are really careful and get the first five correct, you won't need to sweat the rest too much.

The verbal is pretty much on par with the SAT, and the math definitely is - nothing harder than algebra II and geometry. Well, maybe some light trigonometry, but again, just play around with a study guide or two and you'll be fine.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 5 October 2003 02:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I took it yesterday!!! I did okay!!! It sucked!!!

Dan I., Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, hey, and since no one has mentioned it yet, the analytical section has changed very much within the last couple of years. Now, you write two big essays. That's not fun either, but for me it was good cause I probably did those better than I would have done the old stuff.

Dan I., Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

And since it's all sort of fresh in my mind, let me tell you that the verbal is harder than the SAT verbal (SATs I got 790, GREs 720) but the math is pretty much the same (both for me sucky!) except I seem to remember that we could use calculators on the SATs and you can't on the GREs.

Dan I., Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

And there's not even any light trig on the math. No trig at all.

Dan I., Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoa, essays for the Analytical? (I haven't taken it since 2000). That's a huge change (and no getting your raw score immediately anymore, then). And a hell of a lot more work on their part.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I may have to take this for grad study. I didn't do SATs (cos I is British, innit?). I have no idea what to expect and am franky terrified.

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

hell of a lot more work on their part.
that's what I thought, too. I mean, how many tens of thousands of people take this every year!?

Dan I., Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, and multiple times, in many cases. (Come to think of it, to me the essay makes retaking the test a bigger gamble.)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't be terrified, though, nordic; the SAT/GRE tests are quirky, and I don't know if they're quirky in ways that have no British equivalent, but the quirkiness is more in the method than in the type of knowledge checked. (The Verbal test can get obscure, but I assume that's simply to force you into an educated-guess position.)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 5 October 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

My best advice for any of these tests is to find those books that ETS sells that have six or so actual tests in them. The more familiar you are with the test in form and content itself, the easier it is to deal with.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 5 October 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

dude, don't study! it's the GRE! it's kinda like the SAT but dumber

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 5 October 2003 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck essays!!

I'm under the impression that all the subject tests are still done on paper.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 5 October 2003 06:42 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.peta.org/kids/grrr301/tuno.jpg

Dada, Sunday, 5 October 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

four weeks pass...
i took this yesterday. i got:

verbal - 740
math - 640

is that any good? do schools really care about this test? (i am applying for english)

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 2 November 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

That's in the really-good-but-not-quite-amazingly-fantasic range. That's the exact score I got, actually! Although the individual test numbers were slightly different.

Just look at it this way: if you're applying for English, and you got a verbal score that's better than, what, 97 or 98 percent of the people that take the test, I think the schools you're applying to are going to be impressed.

And unfortunately yes, from what I've gathered schools actually do very much care about this test (although not unfortunately for you, I guess :)).

Dan I., Sunday, 2 November 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

verbal - 700
math - 800

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 2 November 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

nice work! i think my math skills stopped developing around 6th grade. every time i got a really easy question i knew i was blowing it and that really messes you up!

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 2 November 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

congrats Sterling and Ryan!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 2 November 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Sterling you are awesome.

Dan I., Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

How does this gre thing correlate with anything else? Does it tie in to the normal IQ test at all? Just curious, because we Brits have no equivalent to this.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

what to expect:
http://www.gre.org/practice_test/index.html

A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

On those practice tests, because I'm an engineering major, the math part seemed GREtardedly easy, but also with that I felt GREtarded on the verbal ones. Do those practice test questions seem to be what to expect on the test?

A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I still have to take it, and soon!

A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The two words i didn't know which i screwed up for sure on the verbal:

rebarbative -- prickly or dislikable
bootless -- fruitless, doomed to failure

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 3 November 2003 05:32 (twenty-two years ago)

bootless = kind of like 'bootyless'!! that's how i remember it anyway

geeta (geeta), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:06 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah a quest for a bootyless girl would be pretty futile, i guess.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:51 (twenty-two years ago)

My score with virtually no studying:
Verbal 720
Quantitative 790

To remind those scoring at home, I'm a lit major.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn you guys! Don't you know that if you're good at one thing you're supposed to be bad at the other?

(like I am...)

(and preferably bad at the one that won't benefit you in your chosen area of study, curse me for an idiot)

Dan I., Monday, 3 November 2003 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Jeez I'm trembling now, I took the paper-based so i have tow ait 6 weeks for my results..

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Monday, 3 November 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Geeta always sums it up so well. The GRE was highlight of fall 1999 for me, seriously uplifting after years of feeling like crap. I'll be taking the MCAT in the spring, I hope it works the same magic.

marianna, Monday, 3 November 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, I think I posted some place else before that the fact that the thing is computer based is quite stressful, I knew many people that decided to bail out at the last minute, when you are offered the option to either get your scores/process or quit/cancel and take again another day (for another hefty fee!)

It is also not good for the other people in the room when you walk out early with a big smile on your face, or when you hear others sobbing.

marianna, Monday, 3 November 2003 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I did so badly on this test when I took it a few years ago. I am still red faced.

Mandee (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 November 2003 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
To reiterate some of what was discussed above -

I am hoping to take this test. I am English and thus have no point of comparison. How much studying do I need to do? What are the best books? Do I get my results (from the computer test) straight away)? Is it multiple choice? What constitutes a "good" score? I have not studied for anything in 5 years+, should I be afraid?

Bruce Banner, Friday, 15 July 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

GRE for Dummies

All you need

Also, look into specific programs at different schools to see if it's even required. The MS I'm going for right now 'recommended' it but didn't 'require' it, and I got in without taking it at all.

TOMBOT, Friday, 15 July 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

i killed it - 800 math, 740 verbal. i used the princeton review GRE study book. very very good for learning how to do the stupid "tables and charts" questions in the math section, pretty good for tricks on how to untangle weird vocab questions. basically useless for the essay section, not really anything you can do to study for that.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah - i didn't get into grad school this year. so don't overestimate the importance of this test, as i understand, it's not particularly important as long as you meet your particular school's minimum scores.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah, especially for really specialized programs that only admit a few people, i don't think they give much of a shit.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

http://web.indstate.edu/psych/unvalidated_graduate_school_pote.htm

TOMBOT, Saturday, 16 July 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Bruce, it's multiple choice, but often time it comes down to 2 answers that both seem kind of right, you have to know how to eliminate using the deductive logic of deciphering what they are asking for. Get a book that has a sample test and take the practice test and see how you do. It depends what a good store is. 800 in each subject is perfect. Get 700 and you're doing very well. 600 less well. 500 about average I would think. What programs are you applying for? It depends on the competiveness of the program. If they are sort of touchy-feely that won't care that much. For some it may just be a formality, for others it could be really important, and for others grade point average can leverage it. It's hard to say what a passing score is, schools pretty much refuse to state their cut-offs bc they don't want to seem like they are in thrall to the tests, but the different levels of schools prob have their different unspoken cut-off, highest up if they are Ivy and on down the ladder. Thank God I will never have to take this test again. Fuck standardized testing, blah blah blah.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

I had a coworker who was on my case because I wasn't studying for the GRE as a graduating senior while she was.


She was a SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD FRESHMAN WITH OVERBEARING PARENTS


(Granted English wasn't her native tongue but you wouldn't know it unless she told you.)

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

the last question on the math portion of my gre was a really gnarly venn diagram, that sucked. otherwise it wasn't so bad.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 16 July 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

(off topic, but out of the thing tom just posted) I still don't understand how the concept of competition is supposed to apply. Competing for funding? For advisor's affections (ew)? I'm seeing none of it so far. Where is all this competition in grad school we were threatened with?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 16 July 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)

that "grad school potential" test tom posted is very OTM.

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 16 July 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

in some departments there is very intense competition for assistantships and scholarships

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 16 July 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, for the assistanships/scholarships I think you would need to score in the 700s and higher, depending on the school of course.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 16 July 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

When a school's website says 'GRE subject test x not required' (rather than 'GRE subject test x preferred'), is it nevertheless mildly advantageous if you take it, get a good score and submit it?

ljubljana, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:03 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Wow studying for the GRE is fun these days, like doing a puzzle book, especially with the accompanying CD!

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Bulgarian Tourist Chamber (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

I spent so much to take this crummy test and I never even needed it! Felt pretty good getting the same score as my computer engineer brother, tho.

does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

any recommendations for a good book/cd to buy for this?

billstevejim, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

three years pass...

anyone got a rec to study for the general?

flopson, Thursday, 15 September 2016 20:19 (nine years ago)


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