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tell me about holloway! i live 10 minutes down from archway on hway rd!!! people say there are good pubs but all i've seen is "the coronet"##

favorite 2 things i've found so far: "the aviation bookstore" and a store that sells all types of mannequins

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

gareth to thread

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i want a "buss pass" so i can kiss anybody i want

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

the huge black archway building is very ugly

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

though it's nice to know that suicide bridge is within walking distance

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The cinema on the Holloway Rd is quite good.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 5 October 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

the big one, the odeon! it appears to be very well-appointed!! they have a bunch of south korean b-movies playing alongside the regular offerings right now, but i lost my glasses :(

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 October 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

that cinema is like a 15-minute walk from my house

i think i'm going to "book" tickets to see kill bill at cinema on the green

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 October 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

You're not too far from the Swimmer which has a corking Jukebox and has nice beers

― chris (chris), Sunday, 5 October 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

so is this your permanent residence now Tracer?

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 5 October 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The cinema on the Holloway Rd is quite good

I've been there many a time. I shall probably be there next weekend with my son for the release of 'Finding Nemo' or whatever it is (he wants to see it). We may well visit the Waterfall Cafe across the road as well.

― David (David), Sunday, 5 October 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

tracer you crap, you missed yorkshire pudding dinner

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 5 October 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Anjelica Huston is a nonce.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 5 October 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a great seedy pool hall right by archway station.

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 5 October 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

There's some nice pubs nearer Tuffnell Park end. And the Dirty Water club by TP tube. For...that sort of thing.

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 5 October 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

...we have good pubs in Tufnell Park? Who knew. The Dirty Water Club is superfantastisch, tho' (I think mediocre garage rock is the greatest genre ever barring possibly shoegazing == I may be biased).

I will hear no disses of the Archway Building: the bit underneath it with all the long-dead shops and old graffiti-slathered scaffolding is my favourite part of defunct London. And Holloway Odeon's alright, but the sound can be a bit dodgy. It's good for emptiness, though. Mid-afternoon weekday cheapoid films you can be the only person in the cinema.

― cis (cis), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Lock Stock at that Holloway Odeon. It was the worst moviegoing experience of my entire life.

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Because of the film, or the cinema?

...is it wrong that the nearest I've been to going to the Archway pool hall is playing pool in the quasar place up the road?

― cis (cis), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I've had several of my worst moviegoing experiences at Holloway Odeon (or just 'Odeon' as my son calls it). The worst has to be 'Pirates of the Caribbean', I think.

― David (David), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i used ta live in tufnell park. if you slip a little further west into kentish town you can go to the *ahem* naturalist club and get a massage or sit naked at the bar while naked girls chat to you. my wife used to work there. its horrid actually.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

There was a Marxist-Leninist bookshop in Fortess Road (Tufnell Park) that I used to visit regularly as a kid. I wish I could remember what it was called.

There was a whole circuit of them: Banner Books in Camden High Street, Guangwha Co. in Soho of course (I think that's still there),
East Asia Books in Eversholt Street. I can't think of the name of that one in Fortess Road though.

― David (David), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Bellman Books, that was it - 155 Fortess Road.

― David (David), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Anjelica Huston has been a nonce for ages now.

― darren (darren), Monday, 6 October 2003 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Silverlink - so punctual yet so pointlessly infrequent. And why no direct link onto the Gospel Oak - Richmond line ?

― darren (darren), Monday, 6 October 2003 06:59 (twenty-two years ago)

my father used to work at the Whittington Hospital and he would always buy a loaf of bread on the way home from one of two bakers in (I think) Junction Road. The bakers were called Rancies and Stagnalls which I hastily rechristened Rancid and Stagnant.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 6 October 2003 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

tracer, get yr grimey garage from pure groove, which is the archway end of the holloway rd. also, walk down the entirity of the holloway rd (poss. not a good thing) anbd go to tblisi, the georgian restaurant, adn get starters and khachpuri, for the best culinary thing in the world, ever.

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

The Swimmer roXor, Mondy night quiz fun. The Head has a nice old interior but is a bit of a let down in other departments. DO NOT GO IN THE CORONET - Wetherspoons hell hole.

I spend a fair amount of my life in the Holloway Odeon, so good for bumping into. The big question is though: are you a Safeways or Waitrose person.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Angelica Huston is no longer a nonce. Sad.

Along the Archway Road into Highgate, The Winchester Arms is a nice pub with armchairs and a beer garden and very good nice cheapy food. Or The Settle In does a fab Sunday dinner where you get your OWN chicken served up with pride by the barstaff.

Or further up the road is the Boogaloo which is a bit trendified now but still has a good jukebox. Go B-52s.

Also brilliant video shop along the Archway Road. Ah, my old stomping ground, how I miss it

― nickie (nickie), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course Upper Holloway is old London Slang for ladies bits.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The Settle Inn is still very much in my bad books for their pub quiz related misdemeanours as detailed here: http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pumpkin/2003_08_01_pumpkinpublog_archive.html#106138954353361860

I adore the Whittington and Cat (as also mentioned in that publog entry), not only for its MUMMIFIED CAT ACTION, but I don't adore the Whittington Stone just down the hill, site of one of my greatest moments of solo ruinous folly.

Holloway itself is a notoriously poor hunting ground for decent boozers but the Swimmer is good.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I think you should say The Holloway road is a notorious poor hunting ground, a wander through the backstreets have turned up some rather interesting backstreet and estate boozers.

Scariest pub IN THE WORLD is The Mall, at the basement of Archway Tower with blackened out windows. Just by the good for world cinema Archway library.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I've obviously roamed the wrong backstreets, because I've never turned up anything of the sort.

Blacked out windows usually = strip pub which = not really a pub at all.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 6 October 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Ptee am I rite in thinking that Archway library rents out DVDs?? *goggle*

If "notoriously poor hunting ground" = less-dazzling array of options, that's fine by me. I'm lazy and I don't want to think.

The Waitrose/Safeway question sounds like a minefield I'm not sure I want to step into. I'll just end up eating whatever they sell at "Best-In." (Uurggh I am lying, I wish it were that easy though.)

Thanks to everybody for your suggestions and reminisces!! nickie how far along is the brilliant videoshop on Archway Rd?

stevem yes, i am ensconced!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 October 2003 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i have to go up there several times a month for really boring meetings for work...at the London Voluntary Sector Resource Centre, next to Waitrose. and some of those meetings have 'pre-meetings' at the coronet. shudder. and every time i go to the coronet for these meetings, there are several girls that look 14-16 years old wandering around in packs, dressed up in what i would classify as 'pulling gear', such as shiny mini skirts and little halters, etc. since this is usually at 3 in the afternoon midweek, i always wonder...who are they trying to pull?

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 6 October 2003 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

on a more positive note, all the islington libraries seem pretty good. although i haven't been to the archway branch, the central branch (down holloway road near the buddhist centre, closer to Hi&I) has tons of videos, DVDs and CDs. and they're pretty quick about requesting stuff from other branches, although i haven't tried that with movies...

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 6 October 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a v. good sci-fi bookshop down there. I can't remember the name but it's south from holloway rd tube and opposite a shop called 'fettered pleasures'.

― robster (robster), Monday, 6 October 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep, it rents out DVD's and videos at a pound a night (two pound for really, really new stuff) - though their definition of night means until the next day when they are open, so Saturday - Monday etc etc. The Thai Restaurant opposite Ma Vie En Rose is very nice too.

And the Bathroom Centre is to die for.

Since when are strip pubs not real pubs? What catagorization madness is this?

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The video library is probably a good old walk up, Tracer, so you should probably bus it - less than 10 mins on the bus, probably a 25 minute walk. I didn't realise the Archway Library was good for vids and DVDs though.

Also, if you're up in the Archway region, try Cheekos night club which I always wanted to go to but never did (it's the basement of the Archway Tavern - and it's where a former resident of my old house conceived, yes, conceived her first child. which is lovely)

― nickie (nickie), Monday, 6 October 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheeko's Nite-Spot to be precise. It is the fifth circle of hell. Archway Video's shuts stupidly early though.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The Bathroom Centre, I know! My Brooklyn apartment was across from "Baths Plus - Kitchens and Baths."

I'm being stalked by an international ring of bath supply-rooms.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 October 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Strip pubs are not pubs in the same way that some bars which might appear to all intents and purposes to be pubs aren't pubs. Strip pubs may be nitespots, good call.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheeko's Nite-Spot is not The Mall though, it is over the road.
(Pubs in the middle fo traffic system / roundabouts classic or dud?)

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I understood that these are two different establishments. A strip pub is not a pub in the same way as a college bar is not a pub. They appear to do the same things as pubs but don't really manage it.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose the complication with a strip pub is that to all intents and purposes it looks like a pub, unless there are people stripping in it. (I reserve the right to question if a pub is in such an upnleasant place (covered in Angelica Huston Is A Nonce graffiti) and with such a close proximity to the library would be a strip pub.

Hmmm, perhaps further work needs to be donw in this area.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete you would surely agree that the unpubbiest ends of the Gastropub continuum have renounced their pubdom even though they look like pubs yes?

Also strip pubs are identifiable as such: they have blacked out windows.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

rah rah north london massive, N19 in the area etcetc...

also LOOK, it is NICKIE, hello nickie, haven't seen you for ages...

safeway is pretty grim, but they do have an interesting array of non-british foodstuffs and halal meat. waitrose is too posh for the likes of me however, good thing it's easier for me to get ot the tesco's on stroud green road...

alsoalso how can there have been half a dozen posts about strippubs without the flying scotsman getting a mention?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually you can see through the windows of The Mall slightly, they black out with strips.

Hmm, the gastropub question is a difficult one. Is there a point between gastropubdom and restaurantiness? I suggest its a continuum, ditto with strip pubs which runs from quite publike (The Griffin and the Scotsman) to proper strip joints (The Bada Bing...)

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 October 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

why was i not informed about the existence of strip pubs?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 6 October 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

We took the decision for your own good, Steve.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 6 October 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

MUMMIFIED CAT ACTION

I'm really surprised Dad never mentioned this. I think that he and his colleagues tended to go to the Whittington Stone at lunchtime, rather than the Whittington and Cat.

Incidentally, is the stone statue of Whittington's cat still there on Highgate Hill? I think it used to get vandalised quite regularly so they encased it in a cage, yes?

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 6 October 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

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i practiced that in France last week where i believe such behaviour is more tolerated nay encouraged.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

i thought everyone did the fakephone to ear thing. i have mine on silent most of time also, so dont get caught out by unexpected call when already 'on phone'

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 8 January 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

i guess that is better than just sort of studying "settings" "messages" "shortcuts" etc. because does any kind of busy, socially-connected person like the one i am pretending to be actually have time to lazily study a genuine text message?

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

i much prefer to be texted than called, unless it's important. screw you, mobile companies, with your 'togetherness'!

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

people who are ashamed to live in holloway should be driven out at gunpoint and then pointed/laughed at when they discover that they can't afford to live in Highbury/Barnsbury/Dartmouth Park etc.

― Mark Co (Markco), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

yea because holloway is so affordable lol

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

i will be lower hilmarton, briefly, this evening.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

it's affordable compared to everywhere next to it

― Mark Co (Markco), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

not really.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

its more expensive than archway and hornsey rise for definite, and fpark too really

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

it's got a waitrose!

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

i am going there later...unless...do you know what time it shuts?

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Waitrose shuts about 8.00 I think Steve, but I'm not totally sure.

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

all of these places are v. close together and you can't really say there're any massive price differences between them. perhaps the poshest place in barnsbury is pricier than the poshest in holloway. perhaps there is a scalpel that can literally split hairs.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

I was thinking of all holloways for cheapness, not just Hillmarton Zone

(yes, 8 is right)

― Mark Co (Markco), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

Holloway is more expensive than Finsbury/Highbury, surely.

― chap (chap), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

n7 is noticably more expensive than n19. this is not a hair that is split, but a fact that is writ

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

surely enrique knows far more about this than you, 688.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

i don't even know who 688 (OK i do but i'm being a dick) is.

but well, it depends on what 'noticeable' means to you, dahling, is all.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

thanks Anna (and Mark)

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

re: n7 is noticably more expensive than n19. this is not a hair that is split, but a fact that is writ

not for food

n7 has iceland and morrisons = cheaper than:
n19 that has co-op and sainsbury's local = more expensive

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

oh for fucks sake theres a poundstore in kensington

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

are we talking houses? N4 is maybe a little cheaper than N19 which is somewhat cheaper than N7

all are WAY cheaper than N5.

the ones i've seen.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

oh for fucks sake theres a poundstore in kensington

which part?

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

shit is going down tonite, car just came speeding down our little street at top whack, followed 30 seconds or so later by cop car, then unmarked cop car, then 3 more cop cars, then the big cop van, then another unmarked

helicopter is out as well

hope they know their streetmap, theres a couple dead ends the way they heading.

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 15 January 2007 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

ah i think they got caught. all the cars seem to have stopped at the end of the street, last straggler cop car just went past at like 10 mph

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 15 January 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

uh-oh fire engine (and another police car), doesnt bode well

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 15 January 2007 00:55 (eighteen years ago)

i guess you were sleeping

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

This sort of mad shit always seems to happen near your house. This is, like, the third time?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

i posted a good late night cop story somewhere, wot i was involved in.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

shit's real in hilmarton

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

I used to post about the mad shit going down in Brixton Hill/Streatham but never got any answers about what was going on. Over Xmas we had a whole street blocked off and helicopters and sniffer dogs. It was intense.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a bit puzzled as to why people do post about it happening in their area actually. What are they expecting in these kinds of places? Is it just 'showing off'?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

No, when I started my thread, it was more along the lines of WTF IS GOING ON?!?!? ARGH!!! IS IT SAFE TO LEAVE THE HOUSE?!?!? (Or office, as the case may be, as Emsk and I were trapped in her office by the crazy police stuff.)

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

ok so somehow my housemate who was up at the time didnt notice all this....but heard me cross the room to look out the window?

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaBvwJV62Ig

― Filey Camp, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

hilmarton

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

which one is tracer lol

― wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

two ls

― ken c, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

no ken it USED to have two ls, keep up

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

oh you moved to wiltshire?

― ken c, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

I've just had a flyer through the door for the Red Rose Tandoori.

Seems like it's now endorsed by The Darkness! The flyer has not one but two photos of the band, along with Ann Widdecombe and Anthony Worrel Thompson.

― Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:26 (eighteen years ago)

Ann Widdecombe on vocals and Anthony Worrel Thompson on drums?

― snoball, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:31 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting proposition, but it seems like I missed out 'photos of' between 'with' and 'Ann' in that sentence.

I believe in a thing called naan.

― Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)

The Darkness have been on their flyers since I've lived around here, and that's nearly 3 years ago. They might have to get a new band endorsement. Jeremy Corbyn says it's his favourite restaurant too. I've been disappointed the last couple of times I've ordered from there, which is a shame.

― Bocken Social Scene, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

those are some of the worst endorsements ever.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

The Darkness have been on their flyers since I've lived around here, and that's nearly 3 years ago

this was the first time I'd seen those flyers, and found them entertaining rather than a serious endorsement.

― Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

PERMISSION TO NAAN

The food is actually pretty good at the Red Rose, and the manager/waiter dude is hilariously pleased with himself. Never been back though.

― Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

When I lived in Muswell Hill I used to get the 43 past the Red Rose - it had posters of the Darkness on the front of the place! Never ate there though.

― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

they fucking love it, even the signs have something like "RECOMMENDED BY THE DARKNESS" or something to that effect.

You're really growing on Ghee.

― ken c, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

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