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Okay, who's down? I created a league... I'd like to do a live draft like we did for baseball, since if people can't make it you can still pre-rank the computar drafts. Looks like most evenings are taken (I just preset it to a random date... it can & will be changed), but post your avail times and we'll come up with a consensus. Also let me know if you think any settings should be changed. Here's to a good season!

http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba
League ID#: 44448
Password: ilxor
Season: Full Season
Draft Type: Live
Draft Time: Wednesday, October 15 at 7:30 pm EDT
Draft Status: predraft
Maximum Number of Teams: 20
Maximum Players on a Team: 13
Maximum Moves: No maximum
Maximum Trades: No maximum
Scoring Type: Rotisserie League
Waiver Time: 2 days
Last Trade Date: Thursday, February 19
Trade Reject Time: 1 days
Maximum Games: 82
Retroactive Stats: No
Roster Changes: Daily
Positions: PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, Util, Util, Bench, Bench, Bench, IL
Statistical Categories: Field Goals Made
Field Goal Percentage
Free Throws Made
Free Throw Percentage
3-point Shots Made
Points Scored
Total Rebounds
Assists
Steals
Blocked Shots
Turnovers

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 5 October 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm all signed up.

M/W are bad for me until 10pm CST, but any other time should work.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 5 October 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ch-ching. I'm in. Any time is good for me for drafting.

― rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 5 October 2003 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Aaron!

― rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 5 October 2003 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Mully's Molars reporting for camp.

― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 5 October 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh i signed up

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 5 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice! We're already up to 7 teams. I put the max all the way at 20, which would make things interesting.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 5 October 2003 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

should I join
I know as much about bb as I do about football

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna sign up for this.

Wednesday nights are generally bad for me and I'll be at Grizzlies preseason home games Oct. 14, 17, and 18.

gotta think of a team name now

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 6 October 2003 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hubie Ball is on board. Actually, the draft time currently specified is early enough to work for me.

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm signed up as 'Bunch o' Jakes'. Let the games begin!

― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I am one of us,
team name is "CopelandLumber".
let the phear begin.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet. We're up to 10.

How does this work for people?

Friday, October 17 at 3:30 pm EDT

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 6 October 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

During my dinner?!

― Leee (Leee), Monday, 6 October 2003 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never done a fantasy league. what's involved?

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Monday, 6 October 2003 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You draft real live players onto your team, and based on accumulated stats of real live performance, you get certain number of points, team with the most in the end wins.

Someone else can do the smutty response.

Also, I wish there were a fantasy wrestling league.

― Leee (Leee), Monday, 6 October 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

3:30 in the afternoon? but im still at work!

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I may or may not be at work, but I've already started reworking the auto lists, so it's cool any which way.

(Some of their rankings are strange, and much as I love Dirk, he's too much of an injury worry for me to take him second overall)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

So... The problem is that all the evening and weekend slots are filled... (I guess Yahoo has a quota on drafts so their servers don't crash or something). 3:30 is about the latest we can do it. I know... it blows.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

3:30 is OK by me. Apparently LeBron threw three no-look passes in his first exhibition game!

Sam, it's pretty easy to learn as you go. The only weird thing is that you "start" more players than actually are on a basketball team, and you have a certain number of starts total to use for the season in each position slot. I can't make it sound sensical but it's actually really easy to learn on the fly. Yahoo has a good tutorial and I learned from scratch last year and came in third in a decently competitive league!

― rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, there's still plenty of room for more fantasy players... sign up!

The Pistons-Cavs game was pretty sloppy, but, Lebron is for real. Cavs seem like a completely different team with him and Paul Silas on board. I'm not sure if they'll make the playoffs, but they're respectable and way more confident than last year. Lebron will wind up at PG or at least handling the ball quite a lot. He's definitely got that freakish court awareness/ability to make his teammates better as advertised. Darko struggled but had those "flashes" you would expect from an 18-year-old kid who's never played a professional game in the U.S. But he has so much to learn. Rest of the Pistons are pretty banged up and haven't had a chance to learn Larry Brown's offense... I think they might get off to a slow start this season (they were the first team to go 8-0 in the preseason last year).

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

3:30 eastern? I can make it work I guess.

Since this has become a "pre-season observations" thread as well, things I learned from my first pre-season game (Bucks at Grizzlies, aka "Clash of the Titans"):

T.J. Ford is unbelievably fast with the ball in his hands. He was atrocious in the first half but really settled down and played well in the second half. Only took one jumper (which he hit), so who knows about his shooting, and will probably get abused in the post (not an issue matched up with J-Will), but could be a player.

Also, the Grizzlies prospective starting lineup this season -- Williams, Mike Miller, James Posey, Pau Gasol, Stromile Swift -- might be the fastest in the league. I don't think there's another frontcourt tandem in the league that can run the floor with Pau and Stro and Jason Kidd is the only PG better in the open floor than J-Will (don't believe the crap written by national press types who haven't actually seen him play in two years). With Pau and Stro blocking shots and finishing on the other end, Mike Miller handling the ball and knocking down jumpers, James Posey creating steals and filling the lane, and J-Will pushing the ball, this might be the best fast-break offense in the league (outscored Bucks 39-6 on the break), that is, if we can get defensive rebounds, which won't be so easy against teams not based in Milwaukee.

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Leee's NBA Bill Mueller Award (sleeper pick of the year): Troy Murphy. Troy is my boy, hands off!

― Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

TJ Ford = flashier Eric Snow. In college most of his points came from the free-throw line. The boy can't shoot!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 9 October 2003 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

danny ferry will be my first round pick

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Word on Troy Murphy... he put up great numbers on my fantasy team last year, and now that Jamison and Arenas are gone, he'll prolly have to carry even more of the load. And J-Will had a fantastic second half of last year. Hubie B seemed to have "gotten thru," which is good.

But, man... Kobe Bryant is going to jail. The image of him choking that girl while he raped her is just horrible.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

As much as I hate the Lakers, agreed. The local paper compared him to Tyson in that the guy is almost all alone in this thing.

― Leee (Leee), Friday, 10 October 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole Kobe case is going to be really disturbing. I wish he would sit out the season, it's going to be a circus.

J-Will was totally my starting point guard for most of last season. Great sleeper, especially since my other point was Howard Eisley. (ick).

Who's gonna be the biggest headcase this season? I got ten on Ron Artest. I bet he punches Carlisle in the face before the All Star break.

― rob geary (rgeary), Friday, 10 October 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I just realized I forgot about the cruel joke that is Ricky Davis' mind!

― rob geary (rgeary), Friday, 10 October 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess during the trial today Kobe's defense were doing over-the-top things like using the accuser's name six times in court (the judge threatened to physically muzzle them), and dropped that she'd supposedly had sex three times in the three days previous to the incident (which is where the lacerations came from). Now, since this was only a preliminary hearing, this says to me that they're being HIGHLY aggressive.... which says to me that they think it's their best chance to get him off the charges, since it looks very, very bleak. He's seriously facing 20 to life. What an assclown.

In more cheerful news, yeah, Ron Artest got a T and then benched in his first game under Carlisle. Hilarious. I geniunely think that he's gonna get shipped out of Indy this year...,

And Mt. Mutombo is gonna be a Knick! I guess Layden figured that Michael Doleac was too mobile. (SNAP!)

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 10 October 2003 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess after recreating the 90s Jazz (Eisley, Shandon Anderson)didn't pan out Layden is going to the Nuggets now. I'm sure Bryant Stith is still available.

Saw a bit of the 76ers/Heat game on TNT the other day and Dwayne Wade looked spectacular. Didn't show he could run point (that was more Odom) or shoot with range, but his athleticism was dominant.

The Kobe thing is sad and awful. There was a lot of speculation (and some quasi-reliable scuttle) that he would end up here with Jerry West after opting out of his deal next year. The rape charges and our Posey signing pretty much nipped that pipe dream in the bud. If he stops playing this year and they bring Jordan in that'll be an epic circus.

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Friday, 10 October 2003 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

not TNT, NBA-TV

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Friday, 10 October 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that the Knicks have Mutombo, maybe they can package four or five power forwards together and get...um...someone with some talent. Maybe.

― rob geary (rgeary), Friday, 10 October 2003 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

He's seriously facing 20 to life.

The possible sentence isn't *that* harsh. I think I read up to 4 years in the pokey, and then 20 years of hard-on probation.

― Leee (Leee), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Alright, good call... But, the way Colorado works, he could *theoretically* stay there in prison for life if the parole board wanted him to. And 20 years of probation, complete with plethysmographs sounds fun.

I seriously gotta wonder if he's gonna play this year.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

He definitely shouldn't, the distraction would sink the Lakers... So actually, he should.

― Leee (Leee), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, so I'm taking the afternoon off from work to do this draft thang.

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 12 October 2003 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone get the "Test your system" draft dealy to work? It just pops up the "download more java" thing when I do.

― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 12 October 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm it works for me... maybe try downloading the latest version of Java?

That's awesome Phil. The draft itself will prolly only take 45 minutes or so.

Anyone else want to join? There's room for uh several more.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 12 October 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It works for me... Try a different browser... or get workin' on editing that pre-draft list.

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 12 October 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Java test works guut for me. Lee, what browser/OS are you on?

― rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 12 October 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Win98SE, I've tried Opera and IE6 both.

It just sez, "In order to test your settings, please download and install the latest version of the Java Virtual Machine." when I click the test button. And I did download their thing and so I have "Java Web Start" on my desktop now.

― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 12 October 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

who's gonna draft kobe?

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 12 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, I had no end of problems with java in Win98 too, so you're at the limits of my knowledge there. Can you hop on another machine for the draft?

― rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 12 October 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

So many question marks around Kobe, the least of which is that he now will be sharing the ball with three all-stars. Still- if he goes off again like he did last February, someone could be very happy with him

― rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 12 October 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I've tried it on another machine w/ win98 and IE5, and the same thing happened. Funny thing is, it worked fine during the Baseball draft. I'm probably worrying over nothing.

― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 12 October 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

ESPN has their mock draft up. Kobe fell to the second-round, I think.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 12 October 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

argh. i dunno if i can do the live draft or not. i'll know for sure on thursday. (i actually might be working on friday cuz (gasp!) i got a job)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Well congrats on the job!

Sorry again that was the only time we could do the draft.... blame Yahoo.

So, we still gots 10 teams... plenty of room for more. Don't be afraid... basketball is fun for everyone.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah congrats on the job. and uh sorry for that weird drunken friendster message. i cant wait until tomorrow. i'm going to draft only white guys.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 16 October 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

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haha!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 22 December 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

okay so my team collectively scores 89 points just yesterday and I'm still in 6th place? And quit changing your team names, people, I'm easily confused.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

part of it teeny
is that my playas have played
way more games than yours

points and rebounds and
steals and stuff like that is just
cumulative stats

another part is
that rank-creeping is glacier
have some patience dude

like that white stripes song
"girl...you have no faith in jalen rose"
it's all good

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Also I had to
change my name, bad juju there;
I'm "No Fear No Die"

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

yay, super bowl is over, time for interesting sports to take the spotlight!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

bump.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

BRING IT ON MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh, why cant my guys hit their free throws?

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

and Rasheed's fated
implosion (until he gets
traded to G.State)

Haikunym the Prognosticator!

― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

hey leeee, lets make a trade!

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok!

― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

IM me!

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

My beloved Manute's Bols seem to have hit their glass ceiling. No more upside! Time to shake things up. Only two more weeks to make trades! Let's get busy!

― francis (droidboy), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet Rasheed gets traded on Feb 22nd at midnight or whatever the trade deadline is. Since everyone knows he's being shopped, it's to Portland's advantage to sit on him for now.

― francis (droidboy), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No All Star game for Lebron!

― francis (droidboy), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm afraid I stopped paying attention to our fantasy league. I'm reaching Bud Selig commish failure status.

Jamal Magliore... All Star. Has a nice ring! Are there really NO centers in the East -- I mean Ben Wallace is technically a center.

I think that unless Portland gets a can't-pass-up trade offer, they keep Rasheed for the rest of the year, let him walk, and use all that cap room to build for the future and resign players (Darius is looking rejuvinated).

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't believe Kobe hasn't been seriously affected by the trial stuff, only to get injured CUTTING HIS FINGER MOVING BOXES IN HIS GARAGE.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

What the hell is wrong w/ Stack?? He comes off the IL shooting out the lights, now after the break not even KFC will give him a bucket???

― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 23 February 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

He chucked that ball pretty hard in the highlight reels, so it's not loss of muscle tone. His throwing is as good as McGrady's kicking!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 23 February 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

One more question: how could a guy who came out a Dean Smith program be such a headcase? Or am I overestimating DS here?

― people like Leee = y'know... whitey (Leee), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, I'm not bragging, I'm just saying: Mark Blount is a MONSTER. His line so far tonight against Orlando: 28 points, 21 boards, and there's still 6 minutes left in the game. He's been doing this pretty regularly lately. This, of course, is only because he's getting all the points that Mike James used to get before he became Chauncey's backup...still, though! Blount Is Fantasy Gold!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

why my team suck? i thought i was gonna win.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

T-Mac pours in 62

― Leee the Lee (Leee), Thursday, 11 March 2004 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

He almost scored more than the Bulls.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 11 March 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Is anyone still paying attention to this?

The Manute Bols and No Fear No Die are tied with 87.5pts with 2 games left!
Meanwhile, I'm in the lead for the coveted 4th place.

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 12 April 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

4th, not 1st, thanks to Shaq clanging his FTs and Steve Francis with his 300 turnovers.

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 12 April 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah muhfuhhuh! i've been chasing haikunym for months. i'm freaking giddy.

― rgeary (rgeary), Monday, 12 April 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

MANUTES BOLS 4EVA I LOVE YOU STEPHEN JACKSON AND JAMES POSEY

― rgeary (rgeary), Monday, 12 April 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

You have me to thank, I overcame like 100 assist deficit to take that point away from NFND!

― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

argh, was zach randolph the steal of the draft or what... 2nd to last round. fucker

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 12 April 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I never overcame the all-PG autodraft, though I did screw someone on the Antawn Jamison-Nick Van Exel trade.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 12 April 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd just like to say one thing here: what the hell is wrong with you Chauncey Billups getting hurt just when I needed you most and Rasheed with the bruised knee and Zach never really overcoming the loss of 'Sheed and Manu taking three months off and don't think that losing T.J. Ford didn't screw me on the assists either. There, I said it.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 12 April 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

season ending cliffhangers! will manute's bols hold their 1/2 pt lead over NO FEAR NO DIE NO WIN? will phil-two's post to the league board on leeee's meteoric rise to 4th go down as the most succinct, mamet-ian expression of league disbelief ever? (and i quote "wtf")

all will be answered soon. who knew waiting for a server to compile data could be so nerve wracking.

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

also in real b-ball: kobe "drama queen" bryant with multiple threes to give LA the pacific division win. over b2d's poor blazers!

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

omg, watch ray allen score 300 points and get 80 steals and a couple hundred blocks and watch leeee take 4th place away from me. that fucker

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I'd need more than 300/80 to get to 4th, but I'm the one who cost B2D the champeenship!

― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

hi fives!

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(check's in the mail)

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

what a nail biting finish! i was convinced months ago that mr.haiku was gonna win it all... and what the hell happenned to aaronW/mehmutokurs?

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

you misunderestimated me obviously

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh, all i know is that next year im staying as far away from shaq & steve francis as possible

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

And I'm not going to pick Troy Murphy in the third round anymore.

― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHA succccckkaaaaa!

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 15 April 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

CONGRATS MANUTE BOLS!

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 15 April 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, congrats geary!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 15 April 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay congrats! I stopped paying attention when it was clear I wasn't going anywhere.... I think AI stayed my starting PG.

Gonna start an NBA Playoffs thread now.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

woo hoo! thanks. i've overturned my own car and i'm setting my trash can on fire to celebrate. special shout out to no fear no die for having 1st place on lock for the vast majority of the season. oh and teeny for all-pacers-all-the-time!

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah I've already given you too many props rob but good job. screw you to all my big scorers who faded in the clutch and/or got hurt and rested themselves for the playoffs. fuck you ray allen for getting good again and relegating rashard "50 in the first game" lewis to towel-boy. fuck me for giving geary james posey. fuck the blazers, and fuck the bucks for folding after t.j. ford got hurt, and fuck you kobe for just being a prick.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

haha!

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i was all about the swingmen nobody else wanted: stephen jackson and joe johnson both went undrafted, posey got dropped, darius miles was ignored in the late going when he actually figured out that he has talent.

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

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