BUT some ppl say "YOU CRAZY BOY! It takes all of 5 seconds to type the whole name of the file".
Anyway it all comes down to personal preference.
So, how much do you type stuff anew each time and how much do you use shortcuts like the one I've described?
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)
this was prompted in part by whoever it was on here who worked in an office where somewhere printed out a Word file and retyped the contents into an email, heh.
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 10 October 2003 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Mice are obviously v useful things (props to Mr Englebart) but I wouldn't dream of say, going to Paste on a Windows toolbar and I rarely use the button on the toolbar either. It just seems faster to use Ctrl-V and I feel a sense of ergonomic superiority therefrom which is possibly quite illusory!
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)
On my old laptop, the mouse is nearly completely shot, so I end up doing *everything* - or at least as much as possible by keyboard commands. I got really into Home and End and things like that, as well as control-shift-arrow to highlight whole words or sentances.
On MS programs, I tend to use shortcuts a LOT. Not so much on programs like Photoshop, because you end up having to have these weird claw-configurations like control-shift-alt-E and things like that which are very hard to do single-handedly.
The copy-paste into the filename thing bothers me, though. I never do it, because I'm too scared that I'll end up overwriting something important by mistake. HSA always does it and it irritates me.
― kate (kate), Friday, 10 October 2003 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Friday, 10 October 2003 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)
I am more addicted to right mouse clicking than I am to claw-keyboard-commands.
― kate (kate), Friday, 10 October 2003 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)
I use Pine for email at home.
― Sarah (starry), Friday, 10 October 2003 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)
Non MS text editors such as Ultra Edit and TextPad, whilst much better than Notepad and Wordpad in terms of functionality are ANNOYING coz the shortcut keys are DIFFERENT and it takes a while for my brain to adjust. Mind you, until recently I had a wheelie mouse on the computer on the r/h side of the desk and a non-wheelie on the l/h side, leading to ineffectual STROKING of the l/h one from time to time.
I say ineffectual - it might have enjoyed it....
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)
I've had to record a macro shortcut (CTRL+SHIFT+P) for Paste as ValuesNow I feel stupid for not having done this already... although Alt+e, s, v isn't too bad.
Yeah, not having a right mouse click is just patently STOOPID.Right-clicking is indeed ace, although I'm currently trying to teach myself to love the "right-click" key on the keyboard in order to save yet some more milliseconds and hand-movement muscle energy.
― OleM (OleM), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)
(Talk about involuntary typing reflexes, when I first typed that, it said mice like to be Strokes. Sigh. Shoot me.)
― kate (kate), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)
to the Photoshop! Let's go!
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyone who photoshops pictures of mice with fat asses or bad afros gets A BEATDOWN!!! I'm warnin' ya!
― kate (kate), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)
The. :)
On my keyboard it has a picture of a drop-down menu on it, and is located on the right half of the bottom row. (The full bottom row is Ctrl, Windows, Alt, Space, AltGr, Windows, Right click, Ctrl.)
― OleM (OleM), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― kate (kate), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)
I'd say it was for the illusion of speed, but I use alt and the direction keys for the upper menu (alt t l t = msword thesaurus), which is well slow, so I think I just have a severe case of mouse-aversion. Except in editpad and phoenix, where the right mouse button is essential for resorting/saving/refreshing/closing different tabs.
...I fear this mythical right-click key. I think I may have pressed it by accident and promptly killed whatever I was working on at some point.
― cis (cis), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, re "Rename" shenanigans, surely there must be a way of adding a CopyFileName to the dropdown?
― Sam (chirombo), Friday, 10 October 2003 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)
This reminded me of when I was doing my writing diploma though. In the DTP class one guy (who was hilarious) would always stuff up and shriek "apple Vee! Apple VEE!" when he did. I always think of that when I undo even tho I dont use a Mac.
Once when putting on lippy I sodded it up, and my first thought was "oops - undo!"
I think I use pooters too much :(
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 10 October 2003 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Ive had too many Strongbows.
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 10 October 2003 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― kate (kate), Friday, 10 October 2003 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 10 October 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm used to THREE buttons godammnit
I use shortcuts so much I spend more time thinking of better ways to do things than time saved. For file management these days I drop into unix more and more so i can grep and pipe and mv and sed away smashing.
― Alan (Alan), Friday, 10 October 2003 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)
The only person I saw using a three button mouse had a computer running the RISC OS, but there again I can't remember what the third button did.
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 10 October 2003 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)
roughly, menu is like the right mouse button on a 2-button mouse, adjust is like holding down ctrl or shift to deselect individual items in a selection
TALKING OF WHICH.
BBC News Item Man gets sued for pointing out that "Holding down shift-key disables autoruns".
― Alan (Alan), Friday, 10 October 2003 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)
And CtrlAltDel far too often.
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 10 October 2003 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)
ctrl alt del - oh yes
and then only really ctrl v and ctrl c
I use loads on sim golf though
― chris (chris), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)
plus, since every other post i make on here either quotes or has an image in it, i use it 50% of the time on here, too.
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)
I love shortcuts, vi is shortcuts taken too far though.CTRL J is a life saver.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 10 October 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Link to all the main keyboard shortcuts in xemacs:http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/xemacs_33.html#SEC413
― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 11 October 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 11 October 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 11 October 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― ron (ron), Sunday, 12 October 2003 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Also Ctrl+D to delete in Unix -- crucial in OS X.
― Paul Eater (eater), Sunday, 12 October 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 October 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)