Taking Sides: Robert Deniro vs Al Pacino

Pacino's Oscar for Scent of a Woman was a travesty of the highest order, in that Academy-recognizes-you-for-a-crappy-role-cause-they-didn't-care-about-your-good-ones kind of way.

Not to say that DeNiro's under-the-bottom isn't damn cool, though.

They both played the devil, but I think "Angelheart" is a much better movie than that one with Pacino and surfer lad.

Taking just their best movies, I don't think you can rate either one much above the other.

It really comes down to "Brazil" vs. "Dog Day Afternoon", which may be the furthest they stretched as actors.

DeNiro also has "Wag the Dog", "The Mission", "King of Comedy" and "Bang the Drum Slowly"; whose characters are a quite a strech from Travis Bickle or any of the other trademark intese characters he played.

Pacino hasn't done much comedy.

DeNiro gets my vote.

???

what do you call scarface, then?

what do you call scarface, then?

I missed seeing the possibility for belly guffaw amid the buckets of blood and mucho bullets.

(Note - is Elizabeth Berkley allowed to appear fully clothed in films anymore?)

And Stone's direction was k-classic - music video direction to its absolute extreme.

Yeah, and Belly is an american classic.

Frankly, I thought the Modine-stylee story arcs were pretty damn boring. And don't you people get sick of his superficial visual metaphors? That hideous Ben Hur deal? The sheer obviousness of his work?

The performances weren't bad, but between Any Given Sunday and U-Turn, it would take a lot to get me to the theater for another Oliver Stone movie.

But say he isn't capable of subtlety, that's cool too. Maybe he just knows his limits.

but anyway, this thread is about Pacino vs. DeNiro. Did Pacino ever host SNL? DeNiro was ghastly, but I'm curious if Pacino would do better.

Woah. Pacino got my vote no question with "attica." Forgot about that.

yeah ... if pacino didn't deserve an oscar for scarface, then i dunno what does!

they've set aside their costumes...and their differences

this fall on abc

guys this isn't a joke.

wtf is that picture.

If I look as good at their age - which must be about 103 - I... well, I'll probably have done as much surgery and/or botox as they have.

They should have included that shot in Heat.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034331/

perhaps the greatest cast ever assembled

There's more producers on board than actors. Should be a hoot. (Shut up, I know it'll have more actors...)

it doesn't need more actors

sophie's choice, this one.

Both are great, both are awful. "Scent of a Woman" vs. "Meet The Parents".

DeNiro since Ronin:

Stardust (2007) .... Captain Shakespeare
The Good Shepherd (2006) .... Bill Sullivan
Arthur et les Minimoys (2006) (voice: English version) .... King
... aka Arthur and the Invisibles (Philippines: English title) (USA)
... aka Arthur and the Minimoys (Hong Kong: English title)
... aka Arthur et les Minimoys (France)
Hide and Seek (2005) .... David Callaway
The Bridge of San Luis Rey (2004) .... Archbishop of Peru
... aka Pont du roi Saint-Louis, Le (France)
... aka Puente de San Luis Rey, El (Spain)
Meet the Fockers (2004) .... Jack Byrnes
Shark Tale (2004) (voice) .... Don Lino
Godsend (2004) .... Richard Wells
... aka Adam (Canada: French title)
Analyze That (2002) .... Paul Vitti
City by the Sea (2002) .... Vincent LaMarca
... aka The Suspect (Philippines: English title)
Showtime (2002) .... Det. Mitch Preston
The Score (2001) .... Nick Wells
... aka The Score (Germany)
15 Minutes (2001) .... Detective Eddie Flemming
... aka 15 Minuten Ruhm (Germany)
Meet the Parents (2000) .... Jack Byrnes
Men of Honor (2000) .... Chief Leslie W. 'Billy' Sunday
... aka Men of Honour (UK)
The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle (2000) .... Fearless Leader
... aka Abenteuer von Rocky und Bullwinkle, Die (Germany)

Flawless (1999) .... Walt Koontz

Pacino had a nice run after Heat, w/ The Insider, Devil's Advocate, Donnie Brasco, and Any Given Sunday, but since then...

Ocean's Thirteen (2007) .... Willie Bank
... aka 13 (USA: promotional abbreviation)
88 Minutes (2007) .... Jack Gramm
Two for the Money (2005) .... Walter Abrams
The Merchant of Venice (2004) .... Shylock
... aka Mercante di Venezia, Il (Italy)
... aka William Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice (USA: complete title)
"Angels in America" .... Roy Cohn (6 episodes, 2003)
- Millennium Approaches: Chapter Three - The Messenger (2003) TV Episode .... Roy Cohn
- Perestroika: Chapter Five - Beyond Nelly (2003) TV Episode .... Roy Cohn
- Millennium Approaches: Chapter One - Bad News (2003) TV Episode .... Roy Cohn
- Millennium Approaches: Chapter Two - In Vitro (2003) TV Episode .... Roy Cohn
- Perestroika: Chapter Four - Stop Moving! (2003) TV Episode .... Roy Cohn
(1 more)
Gigli (2003) .... Starkman
The Recruit (2003) .... Walter Burke
People I Know (2002) .... Eli Wurman
... aka Im inneren Kreis (Germany)
... aka Innere Kreis, Der (Germany: video title)
S1m0ne (2002) .... Viktor Taransky
Insomnia (2002/I) .... Detective Will Dormer
Chinese Coffee (2000) .... Harry Levine

also, he's doing a remake of Rififi... with the director of Vision Quest. Nice.

he was fantastic in angels in america

insomnia is not a bad movie

The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle (2000) .... Fearless Leader
this is embarrassing

deniro hasn't looked like he's even trying in 10 years

the score was pretty good!
men of honor was pretty...hilarious!

i just think he gave up on acting after scorsese stopped casting him

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_adventures_of_rocky_and_bullwinkle/_group_photos/jason_alexander3.jpg

i like the idea that he actually started his own production company purely so he could cast himself as fearless leader.

Caught up in a Paris prostitution ring investigation. De Niro, denying any involvement, vowed never to return to France again. [1998]

al pacino is 5'7 while deniro is 5'9

Trade Mark

Volcanic tirade

According to a profile in Vanity Fair's annual Hollywood issue, is the first actor to do a method interpretation of a cartoon character as Fearless Leader in The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle (2000).

Turned down the role of Ted Kramer in Kramer vs. Kramer (1979).

Turned down Born on the Fourth of July (1989).

Turned down Apocalypse Now (1979).

Turned down the role of Han Solo in Star Wars (1977).

Turned down Pretty Woman (1990).

Turned down Crimson Tide (1995).

would pay $800 million to see pacino as han solo

In a "Playboy" magazine interview, he claimed that he was fired from his job as a movie theater usher while walking down the staircase and admiring himself in the mirrored wall.

"Traveling through hyperspace isn't like dusting crops, you fairy."

Crimson Tide would have sucked with Pacino instead of Hackman

Alec Baldwin, who costarred with Pacino in Glengarry Glen Ross (1992) and Looking for Richard (1996), wrote a 65 page final thesis on Al Pacino and method acting for his degree at NYU.

Limo drivers in Los Angeles joke about his less than generous tips by referring to him as "No Dinero".

I hope this Heat game actually exists and is built on the GTA engine

Early on, before Tim Burton was commissioned as director, was considered for the role of Willy Wonka in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005).

Passed up the opportunity to play Frank Costello in The Departed (2006) to work on his second directorial feature The Good Shepherd (2006).
^^sad story

Stated in an interview that the movie he most wanted to be in but couldn't get the role was Slap Shot (1977). Director George Roy Hill opted not to go with Pacino because he could not ice skate.

just watched the Glengarry Glen Ross monologue again - I think the greatest line in cinema history may be Lemmon's "You aaaaare a shithead, Williamson."

Three movies (at least) that De Niro has appeared in have the song "Gimme Shelter" by The Rolling Stones noticeably featured in the soundtrack - - The Fan (1996), Casino (1995) and Goodfellas (1990).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/ap_en_ot/people_francis_ford_coppola

Kinda following on from that link -- Patrick Goldstein kvetches about both. Among other bits: the CAA agent letter trashing DeNiro and the knowledge that this exists:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-04/38116291.jpg

DeNiro and Pacino -- they're cops.

Noticed that Pacino looks like Frankie Valli's twin sister these days

This is a vision. (A skeevy one, but anyway.)

De Niro: Mean Streets, Godfather II, Taxi Driver, Deer Hunter, Raging Bull, King of Comedy, Once Upon a Time in America

Seven performances in just a ten-year span of totally different (and very memorable) characters

Though what Pacino does, he does like no other

"Because she's got a GRRRREAT ASS! And you've got your head ALL THE WAY UP IT!!!"

Al Pacino ... Rooster
Robert De Niro ... Turk
Carla Gugino ... Karen Kleisner
John Leguizamo ... Detective Perez
Donnie Wahlberg ... Detective Riley
50 Cent ... Spider
Brian Dennehy ... Lieutenant Hingus

would pay $800 million to see pacino as han solo

Thanks, by the way, for making me vomit my lunch with laughter.

Brian Dennehy ... Lieutenant Hingus

First name Connell

You could simply promote him a few ranks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E_l0P5xtNs