A thread for Mac OS X 10.3 (a.k.a. Panther)

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This morning I got my developer mailing with the GM of OS X 10.3. FWIW, the final build for 10.3 is 7B85 with 10.3 Server getting 7B86.

I installed it on my iMac (800MHz flat-panel) without incident and noticed a significant, but not really quantifiable, speed increase in the Finder and zero in the way of side-effects. I went ahead and installed it on my main machine (PowerBook G4/1GHz) and noticed the same speed increase.

Only weirdness I saw with with my slsk installation, but updating the fink tree to 10.2gcc3.3 (which 10.3 uses) fixed it.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Gah! I want to install Soulseek but alas me 2 dumb-oh.

One thing I have noticed is that Outlook Express experiences a mail error every few months (which results in me having to set up a different id).

― nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

nicotine is now the up to date version of pysoulseek, the pysoulseek guy has given up development. It runs a bit smoother and doesn't rely on wxpython, insted it uses pygtk2+. its not in the main fink tree you have to add it manually.

see here and morons guide to soulseek on OSX

I'm excited about 10.3 but I'm a bit disappointed that the portable home directory appears to have been dropped (according to rumours anyway). How stable is 10.3? Should I wait for 10.3.1 or what?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

does it still do the rotating cube screen thing when you change users? can you configure it to switch other ways, like fade in/out, or just abrupt flick?

― Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

it only works on quartz extreme capable machines, it just flicks over on less wizzy hardware, or so I am told.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

How stable is 10.3?

So far, just as stable as 10.2.x though your mileage (as they say) might vary.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Expose rocks! I find myself hitting f9 a lot now.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Teach me about G5's and 10.3

― ModJ, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

what do you want to know?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Given that the G5 Powerbook is almost definitely a long way out, do you think that the G4 series is going to get a hardware boost or price cut anytime within the next few months? Say anytime between now and January or so?

― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it just did, so I doubt it.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Everything, natch.

My G5 should be here to-day

― ModJ, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it just did, so I doubt it.

Only the 15 inch did. The 12 and 17, to my knowledge, were refreshed back in January.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

then there ought to be a voucher in it for a free upgrade to panther, when it arrives.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

12 and 17 were just refreshed as well, better processors and bigger hard drives.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, shit. I still am gonna get one, though. Oh yes I will...*grins*

― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the refreshed 12" and it is super. 1GHZ, mini-DVI out (you might find that incredibly useful, Girolamo--you can rock the two screens at once style, or mirror on an external NTSC without an in-between device), lots of good stuff.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The new G5s are real big

― ModJ, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

and heavy

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah

― ModJ (ModJ), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

hey can anyone tell me the name of the font used in osx??

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Lucida Grande

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really tempted to get one of those 15" 1.25Ghz Powerbooks, but I've got a couple of questions. Ed, I'd appreciate your expertise here: It would make sense to wait until Panther is out before getting one, rather than getting one now with Jaguar now and then upgrading in a couple of weeks, right? Are there likely to be any Christmas offers, should I wait until then? Also, I've got various bits of PC software that I'd rather not have to buy again, such as Studio MX, is it viable to run these through Virtual PC? Roughly what speed PC would a 1.25Ghz Powerbook running Virtual PC be equivalent to?

― Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

1) If you buy a powerbook now you will get a free upgrade to panther
2) There are rarely christmas offers with the powerbooks, (offers are normally on the iBooks and iMacs)
3)Virtual PC is a viable alternative, you may be able to cross grade from the PC version to the Mac version for a small fee, speak to Macromedia.
4) Difficult to say really as I've not tried this all I can say is that it would work acceptably but not stunningly and obtaining the native versions somehow would be preferable

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool, thanks Ed.

― Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the responsiveness, or apparent responsiveness, of OS 9's Finder is still astonishing compared to X.whatever

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

tracer, you are clearly on crack.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm waiting to order my G5 until I can order it with Panther pre-installed.

Which means probably another month. It is killing me.

I've been selling off wads of CDs on eBay in order to finance this adventure (as mentioned I'm ripping the AIFFs to my 160 gig hard drive and am going to run iTunes->optical cable->stereo->remote conrol via bluetooth Palm) when the G5 arrives. I can't wait to have a computer that will actually render video in an acceptable time frame (let alone Photoshop, which is unbearable on my puny G4/400 that is three years old now.)

I love that ILX has Mac geeks on it.

OS9 is sprightly unless you are trying to do 21st century things such as multitasking. And on newer machines OSX is just as fast but with enormous advantages.

Alfie my guess would be that Studio MX would be a dog running on VPC.

― don weiner, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks ed

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Not a question about Panther - but I couldn't find a more relevant thread: have any Mac Users been able to get BT Yahoo Openworld broadband to work? Ours isn't happy and the support line seems pretty hopeless.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

According to a website that comes with a USB modem. I wouldn't recommend those for Windows, let alone a Mac. Get an Ethernet one from ebuyer.com (or dabs.com, though they're really sucky lately) for about £35 - they don't need drivers or much setting up at all, and you can connect one to several computers really easily.

― grraham, Friday, 17 October 2003 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

BT Yahoo Openworld broadband might be OSX only - i have heard

― Alan (Alan), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

JtN with crappy BT (who are more expensive than others and lock you in for 12 months for the privilege)? I am surprised.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

We went with BT because my landlord had it running before we arrived and said it worked fine. :(

Yep - I think an ethernet modem might be the way to go - I was beguiled by the offer of the free USB modem by signing up online. We do run OS X but the BT support for it seems to be scanty.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

See how easy it is to beguile JtN - girls take note.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I too can recommend the dabsvalue routers but their customer service is somewhat lacking.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray! I got it to work at last!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 17 October 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

Right - got a snazzy new Powerbook with Panther. I want to connect automatically to my phone - is there a script that means when I start Address Book, it tried to connect to my phone automatically?

Even better - is there a little utlity / script / hack that enables a scheduled search for my phone to connect up to it?

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear that CHEETAH (or is it LION?) is on its way. I think I might skip an OS upgrade.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it's Tiger, and probably won't be out for a bit.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

dave, i'm not 100% on what you're asking - but in system preferences, under accounts you can set startup items that your machine will automatically launch when you start your machine. i hope that helps.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

A desperate plea: after a restart (due to infernal kernel panic), Panther (10.3.2) has apparently obliterated my brand new 80GB FireWire external hard drive. It's no longer mounting, not recognized by Disk Utility, nothing. Five minutes' research reveals that this is quite common, but what's the solution? Is all my data (thankfully no work, but two years' worth of photos and 500 mp3s) gone for good? (computer=500mhz ibook, 384mb Ram [new 256MB, which might have caused kernel panic])

Otherwise (ha!), Panther is quite lovely...

― Brian, Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

if you installed the ram wrong, it may have definitely caused a kernal panic.

most likely your drive is still intact, but panther isn't recognizing it. do you have another computer handy?

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 May 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

what kind of drive is it? I have a lacie firewire drive which magically unmounts itself from my windows machine for no reason. It appears to be a drive problem. I haven't had the same problem on my mac but I also haven't used it as much with my mac.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

OK, here's a problem...

We have a shared NT machine in our office which has our shared folders on it. We've all added the disk (when mounted) to the Dock. We don't have probs with it. A colleague has lots of trouble with the item in their dock, which is always losing the link -= when clicked, a question-mark appears. They connect up as normal through finder, but why is this happening to them and no-one else? Is there a easy solution? They've not installed 3rd party software to my knowledge, so any tips?

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

start with the permissions on the NT box?

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really a relevant question, but the concept of "permissions" - do PCs have a similar thing? And if so, what is the equivalent of "repairing the permissions"?

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

OK, so I want to change the mickey hand which the cursor becomes in Safari when it hovers over a link; I have the tiff of what I want the cursor to become. However, as the relevant file is in the system:library:frameworks folder, I don't have the permissions to delete it, or move items in there, which is a bugger. I can't change them in 'Get Info' either.

I understand that by going into terminal, I can change these settings, but not being a unix head, I have no idea what to do, or type etc. Can some kind sould please help?

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.hiphopstore.ch/images/llcoolj_walkingwightapanther.jpg

― amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

Just installed this yesterday, and Expose does indeed rock. One more thing to make using my home PC a little more painful.

I did lose all my apache settings, tho. My carefully considered virtual hosts are screwed. Which is not a huge deal, but it does mean reading the instructions again. Meh.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

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Jaguar is a bit sluggish on my G3, especially when compared to booting into OS9, but the stability of it alone pwns the older mac OSes. look forward to getting Panther.

Not really a relevant question, but the concept of "permissions" - do PCs have a similar thing? And if so, what is the equivalent of "repairing the permissions"?

god yes, particularly XP and NT. OSX has it's own Disk Utility to fix permissions automatically. PC equivalent might be something like opening up the permissions control panel in properties or whatever it is (i barely know Windows) and checking permissions manually.

can't you just log in with the Admin account so you'll have the permissions to change it?

― contribute, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

sudo?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

there's also a cursor altering program called Might Mouse: http://www.unsanity.com/news

― contribute, Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

Right - here's a problem for you all. I can't install anything that uses installer.app; if I try and open installer as an app, it briefly appears in the dock, then disappears. If I double-click a package, same thing happens. I've googled and found a thread on macosx hints forum, which won't open as the site is down. I've repaired my permissions, I've checked the knowledge base, and now I throw myself at ILX, humble, supplicant, and desperate.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 14 January 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

cant you look at the google cache of the page?

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 14 January 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

did you run console.app and see what was in the logs about it? that might illuminate your problems

― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Friday, 14 January 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Yep - nothing came up in console. Most odd indeed. Going to resintall the OS.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Open a Terminal window and type "FIX YOURSELF MOTHERFUCKER"

― I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

tiger tiger burning bright.......

― Aaron Hertz (AaronHz), Friday, 14 January 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Dave that happened to a friend of mine and he actually had a problem with the logic board. I hope your problem is simpler than that.

― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

Nope - have reinstalled and all is well. Hurrah.

Here's a quick one - I've used that 'Hack to the past' script which reconfigures new window and new folder in the finder, and wondered whether anyone knew of a hack to reconfigure get info (command-i) and show inspector - command-option-i?

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...

Gosh. More from me.

Have Desktop pictures set to be an Iphoto picture list. It's set to change every hour, but, er doesn't. Any ideas? Apple KB no help, and interweb isn't giving me much.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...

I have just upgraded to Panther. Everything is phenonmenally good. It's like I've got a new mac. Apps open and close in the blink of an eye. Web pages render much more quickly too, though that may be because of Firefox 1.5, which I installed at the same time. I am v.happy.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 2 December 2005 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

Don't rush to get Tiger, though. It's not that different.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 2 December 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

expose!!! expose!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 December 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

does that mean you can run quicksilver and sidenote now, alba?

and really, expose is sooo great

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure I tried quicksilver before and decided I didn't need it. I get to things quickly enough.

Expose is fine, yes.

Will investigate sidenote.

My system is now so speedy that I'm wary of having more hoonja doonjas running in the background and spoiling things.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I like quicksilver because I'm on a laptop and I don't want to use the trackpad or my apple mouse mit ridiculously short wire; I think expose is just a modern marvel tbh; I wish I were on a mac at work.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Tiger suxors.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

tiger's certainly not all that, but it's sound. FAST boot time is attractive.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that's the other thing. Boot time is v.quick for me now. Though I usually just sleeeep anyway.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's crap because the iSIGHT camera doesn't work with my iCHAT anymore. :-(((( Other than that it's fantastic. :-)))

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm geeky, so I appreciate the "x windows apps just work" part of tiger. yay. It is really fast, even on my 3 year old ibook.

― lyra (lyra), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, nothing against Tiger, really. But the jump up to Panther was very impressive, and the jump to Tiger more of a step, it seemed.

I almost never use Expose. I thought I would use it all the time. But I'm all about cmd-tab and cmd-`.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I REALLY LIKE EXPOSE YOU GUYS!!!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

i love exposé too. i use it all the time.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 3 December 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to revive my "I'm thinking of buying a Mac" thread to ask this stupid question, but er, I found this first.

So um. Sorry if I'm somehow overlooking the obvious here, but does my iBook come with software to just plain ol' copy a CD? I looked and looked and found nothing.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 3 December 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago)

you can do it using "disk utility"

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

It's a bit clunky, but yeah.

Basically you create a disk image then insert your blank CD and burn the image to it.

Step by step instructions here (it's for DVDs but the process is the same)

I think a lot of people get something like Dragon Burn or Toast if they are copying CDs a lot. I rarely copy CDs myself, so I don't know the best options. If I'm making an audio CD for someone I usually go the lazy route of importing the tracks to iTunes first (at a decent bitrate - you could even do it lossless if you wanted) and then burning it from there.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 3 December 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

a music CD? just burn it using itunes. if it's a data CD just drag the data to be copied to the CD icon on the desktop then finder>file>burn disc. there's no nedd to use toast or dragon burn for anything as far as i'm concerned. everything you need is already on your mac (and may be so simple, compared to PC methods, that it's confusing you).

http://www.bc.edu/offices/help/meta-elements/doc/articles/html/SW-MacOSXBurningCDs.shtml

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 3 December 2005 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

i can't find any other mc threads so i'll ask here (or maybe some kind soul can dig out a link for me and i can ask there).

my mac, on the whole, is running pretty zippily but whenever i'm uploading anything it c-r-a-w-l-s. at first it just affected me when i was uploading some files to yousendit or similar - and while i was doing that i could basically just give up the idea of browsing the internet let alone anything else - but recently if anyone is getting anything off me on slsk or azureus (more recently) it's affecting the machine in much the same way. is there any setting i can change to recify this?

thanks

― jed_, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

In azureus limit your bandwidth to about 75 percent of what it is capable of and you should be fine. I get about 55k up, but set it for 45k and with that I am able to browse webpages and upload at the same time. For windows there is a program called netlimiter that will set limits for all application, probably is something like that for Macs.

― svend, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

thanks - my uploads on azureus are set to 40k but it's still stuggling.

― jed_, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Do you mean that everything crawls or just internet stuff?

― Alba, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

internet mainly but other things too.

― jed_, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:24 (eighteen years ago)

Well, Azuerus generally is quite RAM-intensive (so might slow your system down), but it shouldn't make much of a difference whether you're uploading or not. If you're connection is ADSL, then uploading hogs proportionately much more bandwidth than downloading. 40kB/s would pretty much take up all of my 2Mb/s downstream connection. (Remember that Azereus et al will give your upstream/downstream rate in kiloBYTES per secons (kB/s) rather than the kiloBITS per second (kb/s) that ISPs tend to rate connections in.) I don't know the exact figure, but I guess upstream takes about four times the bandwidth as downstream.

I tend to throttle my upstream to about 10kB/s if I'm doing anything but light web browsing at the same time.

― Alba, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

Unless you absolutely have to have Azuerus, I've discovered that Xtorrent is much less resource intensive.

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:45 (eighteen years ago)

thanks Alba and Elvis T - will give xtorrent a shot. i didn't know that uploadiing was more intensive.

― jed_, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

You might also check the CPU tab in Activity Monitor and see if there's anything anomalous hogging resources. My parents were complaining about their slow computer and I found some (null) process that was using 75% of CPU, even after a restart. Still not sure what that was about, but I forced it to quit and it never showed back up.

― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:07 (eighteen years ago)

i m new mac user. i have a refurbished macbook and ever since it updated this weekend, i'm having all sorts of probs with my wireless connection. my d-link router will only play nicely with my mac for about an hour at a time, so for now i'm using an ethernet cord directly from my modem.

but i need my wireless network to WORK. does anyone have recommendations for affordable routers that work well with newer macs? the customer support guy said i should buy an apple router, but that shit is PRICEY.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Anything will work just fine, just don't buy belkin as they are arse. Buy netgear and you won't go wrong.

Can anyone recommend a good virtual desktop manager for tiger?

― Ed, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

My Belkin has caused me no problems at all. No arse!

― Alba, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

To be fair I've never had a problem with a belkin wireless router but I have had several products from them that have been a pile of shite.

― Ed, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

i wish that anything would work...my d-link was great for wireless until the update, and now it's shit. it's not that old of a router, either. the apple ppl tell me i need an apple router but $179 is a LOT.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

What is up with the d-link, there ought not to be a problem?

― Ed, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

my roommate has no prob with her mac, but she hasn't installed the latest mac updates. i just got this computer a couple of weeks ago, and for the first week, the wireless worked great.

ever since getting the mac updates, the d-link and my mac won't behave. we updated the firmware on the router (no difference), and took off all security (that helped a bit), but still it won't stay connected for extended periods of time.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Is it a Core 2 Duo macbook, if so you may wish to try restricting the wireless not to use pre-n.

― Ed, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

it is. thanks.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

ed? i looked around my wireless settings, but still have no idea what that means. how do i restrict the wireless not to use pre-n?

talking to a macgeek friend, it seems that my problem is a common one that doesn't have a reliable solution yet. grr. but he suggested that i turn off WPA and turn on WPA2 in my router settings--i'll try that tonight.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

Not sure, but one of the updates enabled this, I only have a Core 1 MBP so I can't say.

― Ed, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

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