Esquire/GQ - C/D

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(and maybe Details, though that seems a step down from the above)

I can't stand Maxim or FHM or any of those mags, but I'll almost always find something worth reading in Esquire and GQ, though rarely enough to get me to buy an issue.

Awful misogynistic crap or necessary bachelor reading material?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 16 October 2003 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The Muhammed Ali article in the last Esquire (the one WITHOUT the hot-ass Britney cover...) was ace.

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 16 October 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Bachelorism=DUD

I sometimes find something interesting to read in them (my mom and sister like to buy them), but I can't stand all that fashion/advice/what champagne to buy in order to shag that cute co-worker crap

oops (Oops), Thursday, 16 October 2003 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

esquire still has at least a cursory interest in great or interesting writing, or the notion that a magazine should care about its writing, so I'll still glance at it even if I'm more likely to buy it for britney as angie dickinson (the dream police they live inside of my head) than tom junod as choose your own adventures. the awful awful awful 'what you need to know about recent music' overview from a few months back, where they tipped readers off to such hidden gems as stankonia and the o brother where art thou soundtrack was maybe the daftest thing printed about music this century. still, I can imagine buying an issue of it.

GQ pioneered metrosexualism for better or worse and I liked it better when they alternated covers between pat riley and bryan ferry and were more focused on, um, fostering the brand (when's the last time you heard someone use "GQ" as an adjective?).

Details I loved as a kid, that brief period during the early nineties when John Leland edited it and they had an oral history of something or other every issue. Then I got smarter (maybe), they got dumber, their 'who the fuck are we'/'let's change our editorial identity' flipflops reached blur speed, I think the last thing I read in a Details was some Pete Bagge cartoon on 'gen x: wtf' and an embarrassing Rick Moody gushpiece on Ethan Hawke.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the awful awful awful 'what you need to know about recent music' overview from a few months back

BAHAHA. Seriously, post some of their picks, will ya?

Kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought Esquire in a fit of boredom not long ago. What most annoys me is that in all the articles, everyone, even passers-by, not just Marky Mark, are referred to as "well-dressed".

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 16 October 2003 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

GQ pioneered metrosexualism for better or worse

Wots that?

Anyway, dud for both - just come clean and buy a jazz mag fer fucks sake! Great writing my eye.

Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Details is a horrible waste of print. It has never ever been essential. I wish it would go away (again.) The articles are way too short and the editorial in general is a bore and second rate.

Esquire has been pretty good over the past several years, where it has made an honest effort to recapture some of their past glory. It's still not an essential read, and it's a little too proud of itself, but I have really grown to enjoy it again. They've got a handful of great writers and an editorial who has taken a lot of chances on style that sometimes succeeded greatly. I think Esquire tends to be much more realistic about fashion than GQ. I thought the 70th anniversary issue was far too self-congradulatory.

GQ also has great writing from time to time. The fashionista aspect of it has been cloying for decades, and if you really read it you'll notice that high-end fashion is kind of a sidebar to the personality of the magazine. I'm worried about Jim Nelson being the new editor--at first I was excited because he did a lot of music writing for GQ prior to his ascention, so I thought that the music coverage would improve. But it hasn't. I think there's been more of it in the first two issues Nelson helmed, but it hasn't been too good. And he's publicly declared that articles would be getting shorter and more newsy or some shit. It seems to me that he feels FHM/Maxim/etc. taking readers so rather than make an effort to refine GQ, he's going to dumb it down. His first two issues were kind of limp and I'm not optimistic about where he is going.

don weiner, Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I've completely stopped reading men's magazines after the American ones went all UK-style - and I used to enjoy the UK imports. Somehow the translation has ruined both for me. As for specifically male mags, I now pick up Arena Homme Plus twice a year. I do check out Vanity Fair at the stands occasionally.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'd secretly love to write for one of these. Not to be a twat mind you.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Last time I read Esquire, I wasn't very impressed at all.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

if I wrote for esquire I would change my name to bill s. preston just so I could introduce myself as "bill s. preston, esquire"

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I always found it hard to believe men actually read these. None of the men in my life ever did, anyway.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

they have columns on shaving

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I was lost without them.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahahahahah

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I like that the Rock is on the cover of the new GQ. He's a terrible dresser! (even if he does like to talk about his $500 shirts.) I haven't read the article.

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(yawn)

calstars (calstars), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the food guy from Queer Eye writes for, I think Esquire. I think. The one who looks like me. Only better at cooking.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and gay. Maybe.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

and he dresses better than I do, but only because he's better paid than me.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and gay. Maybe.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Horace, but you've now got a custom chat up line: "I'm the twin of that guy on Queer Eye!"

I subbed to Details for a year or so, when the music reviews were actually worth reading. Didn't review, once I saw there were were more cologne samples than worthy stories. (The samples were why I'd never read GQ in the first place.)

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm the SHABBY twin of that guy on Queer Eye!"

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Did GQ ever pose as a home of good writing? I honestly don't know. That said, I've never picked up Esquire, for an article or otherwise. It used to come to the house when I was a kid. Details when I used to look at it was all dishy NY gossip, and was gay, gay, gay.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 16 October 2003 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

how gay is that?

Kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 16 October 2003 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

Rust Hills, R.I.P.

G00blar, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:20 (seventeen years ago)

sixteen years pass...

The Harold Hayes documentary--Smiling Through the Apocalypse: Esquire in the 60s--is on Tubi right now. Wasn't sure if I was seeing it for the first or second time, but good stuff, with lots on the most controversial covers by George Lois (Sonny Liston, William Calley, Ali). Kind of sad the way Hayes ends up picking a fight with Gloria Steinem before leaving the magazine, but there's a nice grace note when he goes on to write a couple of well received books on Africa and Dian Fossey.

clemenza, Friday, 11 July 2025 01:41 (two months ago)


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