Monday, October 20, 2003
Fees for homeless proposal slammed
By MIKE D'AMOUR, CALGARY SUN
An outspoken advocate for Calgary's homeless is firing back at a provincial government proposal to charge the homeless for using shelters.
"I don't know why they'd suggest that," said Dermot Baldwin, executive director of the Calgary Drop-In Centre.
"I think they have no idea what homelessness is about -- it's poverty, dysfunction and bad luck," he said.
"These are people who do not need to be beaten up again, they need help."
Baldwin was responding to a plan floated by Seniors Minister Stan Woloshyn last week that would see welfare recipients, the working poor and disabled people who collect provincial benefits pay a fee to stay overnight in shelters.
Homeless people who don't work and aren't collecting any provincial benefits wouldn't be asked to pay.
Liberal housing critic Laurie Blakeman accused the government of ignoring the root causes of homelessness while blaming the poorest people in society for a growing shortage of low-cost housing.
She said Alberta's low minimum wage leaves the working poor struggling to avoid homelessness.
And many of Calgary's homeless are already hard-pressed to find a warm place to sleep, added Baldwin.
"We have 740 beds (at the CDI) and right now we're 100 (people) over capacity."
"We have people (squatting) in closed up buildings, sleeping in the backs of cars and cardboard boxes or making fabricated shelters from stuff they find in the lanes."
No figure for the shelter fee has been set, but it would likely be linked to a person's monthly income.
Under the proposal, a portion of the fee would be set aside in a trust fund and upon leaving a shelter, a person could take that money and use it as a damage deposit on an apartment.
But Baldwin said that's not the business those who care for the homeless are in.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 20 October 2003 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil, Monday, 20 October 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 20 October 2003 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 20 October 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)
*ahem*
[End of mini-sermon]
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 20 October 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)
God starts charging for Salvation, $200/sin
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 20 October 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 20 October 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Then again, that's just my guess.
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)
G Campbell's love of the sauce still doesn't come close to Ralph's.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)
(xp)
― jones (actual), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)
But holy smokes did they ever swing right in the last election. NDP were doing alright in '97, though Reform got the seats. In that last one they were decimated, outside Libby and Sven.
Turns out my riding has been strongly grit for 24 years.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
For a really poignant, yet measured and detached description of just such a pay-for-homeless-shelter-system, see Orwell's Down and Out in Paris and London, the London section that is.
― Skottie, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)