Sheffield vs Leeds

I like the centre bit of Sheffield where the market is, and the closed off high street with all the shops, that seemed a good layout to me. Leeds was just a confusing circular maze which lead you round and round and we could never find where we were supposed to go, and if there was a nice shopping bit, like my bandmates claimed, well, they didn't take me with them so I've never seen it!

Plus, Sheffield has that pop music museum with the silly architecture. And Magma, too, though I've never been, but HSA says it's GREAT!!!

Magma also is tremendous, if only for Auto-reasons. This is something else I should go and Look At Properly.

I am hugely in favour of Sheffield, in fact, for so many thousands of reasons. But I feel curiously guilty about hating most things about Leeds as much as I do.

i dont think leeds manages to cope with its huge student population very well (compared to manchester, anyway), and the students can dominate the town, certainly the housing market, almost all of inner north leeds potential housing market is student or ex-student (is there anyone in britain who hant lived in LS6 at some point?). most of the native leeds people i know, tend to live in dribs and drabs across the south and east, in beeston, belle isle, garforth, places like that, as the more popular places are difficult to find somewhere in. i dont know if sheffield copes with its student population any better or not.

leeds feels much newer than most of the other northern cities, there isnt the faded grandeur of bradford or huddersfield, and it still feels very bustly and busy in the centre, lacks the windsweptness.

i think sheffield has good things, but seems to have problems too. leeds i think can now rival manchester as englands 2nd centre

Definitely Sheffield audiences seem to be way more enthusiastic than Leeds one, the first time I went to the Cockpit I was amazed that it was too cold to take big coat off. The Leadmill on the other hand is a glorious orange place of magical wonder and all the best shows I've been to seem to have been there.

We've generally had a great time playing in Sheffield, people really get into the music there. Leeds ... well, it was a chilly reception both literally and figuratively! (Well, part of that wasn't our fault - they put FOUR hardcore bands on before us, so we went on at midnight, not knowing that the bus service stopped just before our set began, and wondered where everyone was!)

Leeds always felt like Sheffield's older brother, cooler, more grown up, but a bit scary and annoying.

Manchester felt like Sheffield's cool much older cousin, who didnt really care about Sheffield being a bit down at heel and scruffy, and let Sheffield hang out with it down the pub. This made brother Leeds a bit jealous.

To be honest, Manchester seems a lot closer to Sheffield than LEeds is. It definitely is by train.

I met gareth near Leeds though, and that was cool. also brudenells social club is good (*sigh* wot a cliche eh)

sheffield is so good, i will be there in 2 days. everytime i go back i feel just...really good. er...i dont know how else to express it.

I know you were drunk, but you don't remember if you were talking to a rather pukka, but still quite cool girl called Rosie do you?

In response to the q. I love Sheffield, but then I did live there for three years.

Never been to Leeds.

Hottt-ILX-SouthYorks-ACTION would be glorious and tremendous except I am in Liverpool over New Year alas lament. Are there other ILXers south yorkshirerers?

1. why does sheffield have no real airport? is it the largest city in the UK not to have one?

2. doncaster finningley, or robin hood, or whatever its called today, is presumably the de facto sheffield airport, but, as leeds/bradford actually seems to be losing flights rather than gaining them, do you doncaster will eventually grow to be a de facto leeds airport also? it could market itself as leeds-sheffield airport, or as yorkshire airport, haha, WHITE ROSE AIRPORT

(or maybe it's just me who gets lost in the Doncaster suburbs)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42425000/jpg/_42425188_hillsborough_pa_416.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42424000/jpg/_42424512_leeds_aire_pa_416.jpg

Sheffield is awesome, if a little bit underwater. The new train station is literally breathtaking the first time you see it (in a good Sydney Harbour way, although obviously not that good). The crazy plan to cover Division Street in a glass roof will be similarly striking. The Winter Gardens are beautiful. For a big city with a lot of cultural stuff going on, it's so peaceful and pretty [*], especially the posh bits. And it does have a lot more cultural stuff going on than Leeds.

I've never spent any serious time in Leeds, only visited friends who were at uni there, but it's always seemed a really mean town. Possibly my imagination.

[*] According to Wikipedia it has more trees per person than any other city in Europe.

Also, Peak District owns.

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for halloween: a mean town indeed

In Leeds - any nice places to eat in the city centre?

Get a good pub lunch at Whitelocks. Been a while since I ate there though.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/jul/01/jay-rayner-whitelocks-restaurant-review

I was in the Whitelocks on Saturday and it is good! Laynes (just off Boar Lane near the station) is good in modern café sort of way.

if it wasn't for you meddling kids sheffield would have got all 3pts again.

(Last time I was there I enjoyed eating at the Gujarati restaurant on North Street, a few minutes walk north of the town centre called Hansa's - it's been there and popular for at least 30 years because I remember it from when I moved to Leeds in the late 80s.)

I was distressed to learn that the only secondhand bookshop in Leeds now is the Oxfam books in Headingley.

Just went to Hamsa - A++

Will try Whitelocks (which was on the way)

Found a few more nice places to eat etc. Will do a round-up when I am less tired and full. Thanks for the recommends so far!

or Hansa..