Where should I move to?

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i'm keen to move ASAP into a flat or house but what I'm not keen on is going through the whole process of calling people up to enquire about rooms to let, going round to view said rooms, failing to impress ensconced house/flatmates somehow, having a quarter of my wages going straight on rent, yadda yadda...

also I'm not sure which area I should go for. I now work in sunny Old Street area so am facing up to the scary concept of Norf Lundun after lusting after somewhere south of the river for some time. Dalston gets a lot of love on ILE, maybe now is a good time to sing it's praises once more. or tell me about Harringey, Shacklewell, Hornsey and other possibilities.

muchos olbigos

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Come to the Stow, you know it makes sense

― chris (chris), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah almost moved to Whitechapel - there are some affordable places, it's quite hip, and it's close to stuff.

How about Putney?

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

haringey might be good, its on the 141 which will get you in reasonably quick, newington green/mildmay possibly, very quick into old st from there, im not sure whether you would like dalston that much steve, clapton has some really nice parts that are really cheap because no tube (which you wouldnt be using so no probs there).

or you could go east, maybe stratford?

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm in fulham now

it's definitely a place

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i stay in finsbury park just off the stroud green road whenever i'm in london (which is fairly often), and i love it. really convenient for transport, and you can always go over crouch end/muswell hill way for posh brunch/shopping if you feel like it. i like holloway a lot, too. maybe i haven't given it enough of a chance, but i really don't like dalston.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i really don't want to go east, or even north-east (so Walthamstow not desirable) - too alien. Putney's off limits as i'm really looking for a nice easy journey to work, however long that lasts. so it's got to be NAWF

why wouldn't i like Dalston gareth? i wasn't too keen on Stoke Newington but the people who live in the ads keep mentioning how cool it is...and..why would they lie?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Fullham? Where the hell is that?
I wish there was actual jobs in Halifax, I'd move there in a second. Sigh.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Whitechapel/Mile End is the new Place To Be, apparently. I've had two, maybe three sets of friends move there in the past year!

― kate (kate), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh wait, you're still in Engerland aren't you?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Clissold Park area sounds good but i haven't seen it. there are things to consider that i'm perhaps not considering enough, but getting home to any of these places suggested so far after an FAP or other weeknight event is gonna seem like a breeze compared to past experiences.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but Clissold Park and surrounds is all built upon the New River, and that is going to fall in, soon.

― kate (kate), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

mount real! we have a mile-end too (I live there)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh wait, you're still in Engerland aren't you?

the 200 or so emotionless people with whom i sat in a room and saw k*ll b*ll with last night would indicate so

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Move to Blackheath - you can get to Old Street in half and hour easily and its green and pleasant and much nicer than Dalston or anywhere and you'll be able to get a decent place for cheaper than anywhere near where you work. And I live round the corner.

And yes, that is the most predictable post ever. Otherwise Walthmanstow or Whitechapel are fairly good shouts. Dalston is grim.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

they didn't babble drunkenly or talk on their mobiles? YOU WERE NOT IN ENGLAND

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

my friends who live in stoke newington adore it as being quaint and village-like, but there seems to be a bit of an issue with transportation. there is apparently the best kebab shop in the world there, though, so perhaps it balances out.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

finsbury park is good, i agree, though i think i like blackstock road more than stroud green road. holloway mightnt be bad, depending which part you are in...

but i think the best bet is anywhere along the 141 bus route, apart from anywhere with great proximity to manor house tube/woodberry down estate

what is your budget?

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Half AN hour, even.

Actually, surely anywhere on the East branch of the Northern line is fairly easy?

I like Stoke Newington, but it appears to be a bit of a bugger to get in and out of (not bad if you're only bussing it to Old Street though).

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Matt you're forgetting that the taking of undergound tubes is not permitted under Stevem law - though this will surely have to change in order to prevent prospective flatmates from staring at me quizzically and deciding i am a freak of claustrophobic nature

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

(Actually, I was deliberately not mentioning the ABJECT MISERY of getting on the Northern Line at London Bridge during rush hour). It's a fair cop, guv.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

there are lots of great locations so i feel quite overwhelmed. so this thread may also serve as a general enquiry if anyone knows someone letting a room then let me know. i'm trying not to be too fussy but then again maybe fussy is good.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Come to America! I've got a spare room in my house.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

oh go on then

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

a pal who lives in blackheath always raves about it, but then at the end of the night he gets stuck with a horrific cab fare if he stays out too late. this is another good thing about crouch end/finsbury park/highbury barn/holloway area - late night cab costs are almost reasonable.

x-post: i think i know of a room in bethnal green. never seen it, but you would have two mentalist girl djs/sound engineers as roomies.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Hating the tube is not weird! (Maybe it is just a symptom of ever having been reliant upon the Northern Line.) Half my life revolves around avoiding the tube, even if it means living in Zone 1 and walking everywhere!

― kate (kate), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

you would have two mentalist girl djs/sound engineers as roomies.

It's a match made in heaven. I can hear the Akufen-esque remixs of Oops Upside Your Head right now.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Stoke Newington isn't a bugger for transport, it just doesn't have a tube. But that's no bad thing, really, especially in August. It has a train straight into Liverpool Street (which, admittedly, is close to where I used to work when I lived there) and lots of good buses including the lovely number 73.

Before that, I lived in Harringay, on the ladder (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531682&Y=188430&A=Y&Z=1) which has a super-convenient train straight into Kings Cross and Manor House for the tube, which is not quite as useful as Finsbury Park but is only a stop away and a walk across the platform and again there are lots of lovely buses. I'd recommend either, but Harringay is probably cheaper, isn't it? And marginally faster into the West End - I used to get to Oxford Circus in half an hour from the ladder on a Saturday morning.

And the bit of Green Lanes by the ladder has about 20 really, really good kebab shops, a dozen really, really good greengrocers that sell watermelons for about 3p per kilo and loads of different kinds of olives and giant peppers and sour cherry nectar and vodka at 3am. And there's a greek bakery too. I wuv Harringay. Tsch, you're making me homesick.

― Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

hey kate, i was wondering why you took the 205 to work. i think Pete shares out tube hate. excellent. overground is fine and dandy tho i should stress.

lauren you have no idea how good 'two mentalist girl djs/sound engineers as roomies' sounds to me....actually you probably do.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

jeezarse, can i make it thru today without making a single post typo-free?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Also - what about Crouch End? Third spiritual home of Internet Mentalism after all.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

there's probably some sort of catch, steve

like nonstop pillow fights or lingerie parties or something

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh i bet they insist on brushing their teeth while wearing tennis skirts as well.

*smashes plate over head cartoon style*

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0752215825.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Madchen gives good advice - all the places she's lived while I've known her have been k-nice.

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh i was already warming to Harringay (freudian slip that i keep putting an e and not an a?) and Madchen is selling it superbly.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh i bet they insist on brushing their teeth while wearing tennis skirts as well.

i've just realised gareth's question mark is with good cause and not because i figured he was unfamiliar with the work of Tex Avery.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I believe there is a thread re the many spelling for Haringay.

I liked the ladder when I live don it, but pubs are a bit crappy. Obv Crouch End (spiritual home of Freaky trigger) is just a ten minute walk away from there. And Madchen is cock on about the transport from there. The train that goes into Moorgate takes about 20 minutes from Hornsey or Haringay station and yer on teh Piccadilly.

Clissold Park is nice too - but there are plenty of affordable bits inthe Finsbury Park area, and nice food too.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

gareth, don't milk it - you don't wanna be remembered just for one catchphrase

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Why would anyone want to leave paradise?

Personally, I'm thinking of moving into West Ealing proper.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

You should move to Middlebrow.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm moving to Tottenham, and therefore recommend it. No idea how easy Tottenham-Old St is.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 27 October 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd like to stay left of Tottenham, but i fear Harringe/ay is too far out (it's actually further north than where i am now but still closer to the centre of town)

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

newington green it is then

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

are you moving as well then or what?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

we could be the new Likely Couple

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the Cava Bar on Newington Green. Cava cocktails, Get in!

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Archway!!!! Join Tracey Hands Gang.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

i am moving yes, not to newington green, although i would quite like to move there, but to upper holloway

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

kate, have you seen the sign posted 'New River Walk' from Saddler's Wells to Clissold Park (and maybe beyond).

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I did not know there was a sign posted walk for it! We will have to look for it, next time HSA wants to go for a Forced March, I mean, Sunday afternoon walk.

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Upper Holloway is obv the PLACE TO BE. (I am on Crouch End / Upper Holloway borders). And as I always say, it is also rude victorian slang.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

the signs are not obvious, i only ran into them in a back alley behind essex road and found others later.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Islington council announcement. Apparently the statue on Islington green is of Sir Hugh Myddleton, the man who built the New river. He also apparently drain some marshy land on the Isle of white but the soil was so crap they could only grow rape seed.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Finsbury in answer to the question.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, I was just in the bookshop on exmouth market and they had a brand spanking new book on the New River.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem you should move to Hanle y Road

http://195.92.245.225/image.dll?ShowImage&image=TQ38NW04.gif&street=Y&arrow=y&x=178&y=92&loc2=a7

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Newington Green looked alright as i passed thru last night...

BUT

i have to decide by tomorrow if i want to take the room on the Harriney ladder. it seems pretty decent and is a good price. i was a bit taken aback by how SE European (specifically Greek & Turkish) the whole area is but of course this is not a problem (maybe just a little culture shock).

The area has excellent transport links (5 mins walk from 141 bus stop, 10-15 mins from 3 train stations), lots of ILXors quite close by too. i still think it may be a bit too far out but it seems ok so i'm thinking i will take it.

Pete tell me more about your time living on the ladder!

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

bump

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

What road on the Ladder is it. (The nearer the top the better in my opinion). The house itself was a bit of a a shithole, but the locality wasn't too bad. Good transport as you say, the all night shops were good for all night bouze, or Turkish sausage at 3 am. You are on PARTY BUS 29 route as well. It would be interesting to go to the Sally again (Salisbury) where Emma used to work as it has apparently been returned to a semblance of its former grandure. The Sainsbury is good too (or at least it was when lixi worked there). Misses the dog track, but if you want to come over to Crouch End, we are one stop on the Silverlink, Tracer and Gareth two stops.

Tracer, are you also aware of the Hanle y Arms, a currently closed pub on Hornsey Rise?

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete I take great offense at the idea that the Salisbury returned to its former grandure only AFTER I stopped working there.

― Emma, Friday, 31 October 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

the Salisbury looks ahright. Beresford Road so bang in the middle really. doesn't look as nice on the outside as the house i shared in Sheps Bush a couple of years back but is bigger and nicer inside. is walking down that footpath that runs right thru the ladder at night wise? it seems reasonably quiet and i hope trouble-free.

i'm sure i'll be hanging out in Crouch End/Upper Holloway. woo yay.

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Steve, if you are moving there, you must learn the Harringay/Haringey thing or you will get larfed at (maybe). 2 Rs Gay = small area, 1 R gey = council and larger area that includes bits of London not known as Harringay.

I forgot to say before that Wood Green is really easy to get to and has proper high street shopping, if M&S and Dixons are what you're after (which they may not be, but it's still good to know). Wood Green used to have a very cheap bra shop too. Also good to know.

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

hurrah for cheap bras. i shall find a use for them yet.

the spelling baffles me but i'll cope i'm sure. funny that Ruislip never had variants thinking about it.

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

move to nyc!!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

move nyc nearer me!!

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

: (

nyc is in zone 7!!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

A mate of mine's just moved to the Harringay ladder, and it seems a pretty decent place to live. The greengrocers there are indeed esp. fantastic, and the 29's a good bus.

― cis (cis), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

are you Tufnell Park or Turnpike Lane cis? i sometimes confuse those two

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

romantic Tufnell Park, me.

I've decided all London areas sound better with epithets: glamourous Dalston! genteel Crouch End!

― cis (cis), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

grimacious De Beauvoir

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Intellectual Bloomsbury! Creative Clerkenwell! I feel like Peter Ackroyd!

― kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm off to Harrowing Harringay

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

amusing angel
krackin' kings cross
hackneyriffic hackney

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Charming Finchley! Exuberant Colindale!

...poor you, Kate.

I'm not sure negative epithets are allowed, Steve.

― cis (cis), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I work in Pedantic Paddington. Sigh.

― kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i meant it reminded me of Harrow (oh, that's also negative, bah)

Harmonious Harringay then

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

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