Halloween: The Institute Of Spookological Research!

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What are YOU doing this Halloween?

The Spookological Institute needs to know!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

HSA and I were going to do Drinks Trick Or Treating, but now he has scored INVITES TO THE LOUIS WAIN OPENING!!! WOOO!!!

Spooky, crazy, non-twee, totally terrifying, schitzophrenic CAT PAINTINGS! Hooray!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to a party on halloween & it's fancy dress, which would be great apart from the fact that you have to dress up in anything you can buy in a charity shop for less than a fiver. I'd rather have gone as a vampire to be honest! :-(

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Pink, you can get vampire clothes for under £5! In fact, I could put together a pretty decent vampire costume just from what's in my closet, or by ringing my ex goth friends!

I am going to start a Foundling Hospital for my unloved threads, possibly in Coram Fields...

I like the idea of an Institute For Spookalogical Research. It would have to be on an island. Somewhere where they have spooky mists rolling in off the sea. And everyone would have doctorates in improbable things like Theology and Parapsychology and Dead Languages (though not Latin, which is just the rockist dead language) and we would all study spooky events. And possibly go around in a big van debunking EVP.

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Not in Cambridge charity shops you cant!! *sigh* I jst wanna be a vampire. *cries*

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

How to be a Vampire, for cheap:

Black Cloak! Urgent and Key. Now, in days past, Undergrads in Cambridge had to swan around in black gowns. Surely you must be able to locate one of these still! With a little modification, the standard Oxbridge gown becomes a FABULOUS cape. With a little talcum powder on the face for pallor and some artfully applied lipstick for blood, you have a cheap and effective vampire costume!

(My father's university Gown served me so well during so many Halloweens when I was a wee dot...)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

what about if i cheat & say it was purchased from a charity shop? I mean I donate to charity on a regular basis anyway!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Does it *have* to be from a charity shop? Or can it just come from your own wardrobe and donate £5 to charity or something?

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:28 (twenty-two years ago)

If we don't wear something from a charity shop we can just donate instead. I'm prob gonna do that so we can get spooked up!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I am debating wearing a costume to work. Though I'd feel like an idiot if I was the only one. However, knowing this office, probably no one would notice.

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

It's probably the worst time of year to get a gown from a charity shop. All the freshers will have scoured them after baulking at paying 30 quid for a new one.

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Only £30? Spoiled rotters! I thought it would be more like £300!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Bluddy stewdants!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The Institute for Spookalogical Research must take a firm stand on the Most Haunted show, mainly 'cause it's shite. But it can't be stuffy like the Watchers Council and wear only tweed. And it should be more intimate than the Talamasca.

Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Tweed? Nah, we're more up to date than that. We are all about corduroy and turtlenecks. Hence the driving around in a van and debunking EVP bit!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

You're not going to drive around in a van and solve mysteries, though, right?

Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Not at all!

(And they would have got away with it if it wasn't for those meddling Sound Artists!)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Count me in. I can wear turtlenecks and spend my time in dusty libraries looking up superstitions, folklore, and myth and making modern-day applications. It'll be the MYTH LAB. And maybe a little conjuring but no ridiculous prophecies.

Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Cat! Have you rented Revelations yet? Because then you will understand ALL about the Institute of Spookological Research! (PLus, also, the hottness of James D-arcy.)

(Oh yes, and reminder. Spivey Goodness at 7.30 tonight on C5. Set yer VCR!)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I have not yet rented Revelations. Is on my weekend list. Am interested in hotness of James Darcy. NOT interested in James and D'arcy. eyew.
Horny Historian tonight? Schweeeeet. "Punk Rock Killed This Girl: The Series" was on again last night, as well -- Grissom was suspended and went all Lone Wolf and found the Signature Strangler despite warnings from uppity FBI agents also working on the case.

Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes! I saw it, too! It was excellent. I said at the beginning "that security guard is all creepy and shit. Why is he the only person to come forward and offer help? I bet he did it" so I felt very vindicated at the end.

Taking sides: The red-headed shouty guy vs. the weird, socially retarted glasses guy? I like the weird socially retarted glasses guy cause he totally pulled the goth chick dominatrix saucy lady!

(Watch for many moving, sensitive shots of NStheHH looking all moody and sensitive and tasteful while strolling around Belsen in a bomber jacket. This will happen!)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

(Curse those Uppity FBI agents always getting in the way!)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

That better be brown turtlenecks & cords Kate!

What about those sixth sense progs of living tv?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Spookological Research, I like it...They larfed at me in work when I told them we visit the 'Spooky Church' sometimes, I've been calling it that so long I forgot it's actually the Spiritualist Church!

smee (smee), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

HSA was telling me that if I wanted to do *real* spookological research, I should go to the Parapsychology Department of Edinburgh University. Heh. Those mad Scots!

What do they actually do in Spiritualist churches? Do they really talk to the dead? Do they use EVP, cause if they do, then HSA is coming to debunk them.

(It is really hard for me to type Spiritualist, it always comes out Spiritualized.)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

It's kinda cool, you should find out where your nearest one is and pop along. It's just like going to a church service, with a sermon type thing and hymns and everything but then in the middle they tell you messages from dead folk - must be experienced at least once in a lifetime. They welcome visitors and it's free (well you can contribute to the plate they pass round if you wanna)

smee (smee), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds really interesting, as an experience. (Though HSA rants on and on both about how evil organised religion is, and how terribly exploitative spiritualism and "communication with the dead" is.) Maybe I can persuade HSA to go to one, but only if I can get him to shut up and be respectful cause we are deep under cover and he will blow our investigation if he starts arguing with people.

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I took my totally sceptic bloke along and he was convinced - but then it was a particularly good medium that night and she was giving names and dates and being very specific. Other times you can go along and it's all very vague and unconvincing (you know "I see a red car and a man named Jim..."). I think the fact that's it's free (so no obligation to perform) and they've no idea who could turn up (therefore no time for background research etc)is what made me go and have a look.

smee (smee), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd definitely be interested in this even though it goes against my catholic grain. I am always in awe of this kind of thing, but I would be so scared of what might be said.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

HSA has made me watch loads of programmes and read lots of books debunking mediums (media?) and talking about how they do it, about how it is the art of reading people, more than anything else.

But then again, HSA has written several articles for scientific journals debunking EVP, and is in the process of pitching it as a book, so he has his bias. Mainly because lots of people within the soundart/experimental music scene were getting very into EVP. Hence the interest in auditory illusions and hallucinations.

EVP tapes are occasionally genuinely frightening and spooky, but really, the scientific explanations are much more sensible, and the involvement of the Catholic Church makes it all quite spurious.

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

this book = pretty good

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Witches, spookological research AND WWII? I need that!

(That said, British Intellegence did use stage magicians to help with disinformation and camoflague tactics during WWII, so it's not that unlikely...)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

PinkP, yet again you prove why we are ILX twins!
I was absolutley terrified I'd get a message the first time I went but they are very nice and lovely and you can just shake your head if the medium makes eye contact with you and they don't bother you, honest.

smee (smee), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I would be interested in going, and seeing if they did "pick me" for the simple reason that no one particularly close to me has died, so I can't imagine "who" would be trying to contact me.

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I've had zero energy lately, so at best I will probably go see Alien at the theatre. No big Halloween parties for me this year!

Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey ilx twin! I would want her to speak to me, but i would be so scared. I sometimes lie awake already thinking that dead relatives might choose that particular night to visit me, but then i reason that they'd know i was too scared & wouldn't like it. god i sounds really stupid, i just cant help it.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ohmygod PinkP you scare me! Stop stealing my thoughts! Stop it stop it stop it!!!!

smee (smee), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't. *cries*

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Awww, don't cry - we can share them....

smee (smee), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm going to two fancy-dress parties. and need a costume. any sugegstions?

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Cool! So you get that too huh? I feel so stupid! Sometimes I have to wake james up & he just had to cuddle me til i go back to sleep, as cheesy as that sounds! But i do genuinely get so scared that i cannot sleep.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

there was a costume thread, but i dont know how to link, sorry!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

My mom is obsessed with spirituality. Lately she's been talking alot about dead people trying to contact the living. My sister said, in exasperation, "Mom, You better not come to my house and break stuff all the time after you're dead just to prove you're still around!" And my mom was like, "Hmm... That's a good idea actually..."

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

gulp!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, I will so go undercover with you to the spooky talk with the dead church. and I'll not wear my orange turtleneck sweater/orange knee socks/brown pleat skirt, either, since it's *undercover*.

Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, I am sooo in on this!! Smee?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but we got to make sure that HSA leaves the DOG at home!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

If my dad came back from the dead he'd just commandeer the remote control and it'd be nothing but Men and Motors all day and all night.


And he'd probably open all my coke bottles *just enough* to make them go flat 'cause he's evil like that.

Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I can just imagine my grandparents coming back from the dead to say "ha ha, there's MATHS in the afterlife! We're proving SCIENCE wrong! Maths wins over science again!"

kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you communicate with dead pets?

Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronana the Barbarian?


As far as I know it's donations,they are def not rich - their hall is always needing something done to it! They pass around a plate at the end of the service and you can give whatever you like. Some of the medums do like private sittings for cash but I don't think they take a cut of that or anything.

Pink - it depends, sometimes you get a really vivid description of this person who apparently wants to give you a message and you have no idea who it is so you tell them they got the wrong person, then you go home and somebody says "y'know, that sounds kinda like your Grans old neighbour/cousin/vague acquaintance"

smee (smee), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

can you get a taping of it?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Cat Stevens looks kind of like Keanu in that pic.

Was anyone else forbidden to play with Ouiji boards growing up?

I understand why people would be able to trust someone who gave readings for free better than someone who charged an arm and a leg, but if these people really do have those powers, doesn't it make sense that they should be allowed to charge? Should everyone with a gift be forced to be so generous with it?

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course not, everyone has got to make a living I guess, so they should be free to charge.
Ppl always used to use Ouija boards at school, but i was always too afraid of what might happen. I thought the idea of it being a game was horrific!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

My parents played up the evilness of Ouija so much, that when I finally did play with one (at a sleepover of course) I took it really seriously. I was supposed to marry a redhead named Dennis and have two kids, a girl and a boy. I must say I was upset with those results.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Because if they charge, there is pressure on them to deliver, whether or not they are "feeling it" etc. or not - I'm sure that being "psychic" (if there is such a thing) is as changeable and unreliable as any other talent or gift. (Even the most talented athlete ever doesn't make a goal every time.)

If it is free, if it isn't happening, there's no bother. As soon as they start charging money, that is when I start to worry that they may be supplementing their "gifts" with other means to make sure it happens on demand, every time.

(OK, before you start thinking that I am saying that athletes shouldn't be paid - I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that when athletes are paid, there is a bigger temptation to succomb to artificial help such as steroids and drugs. Hence why there is drugs testing in professional sport! Except steroids may be easier to detect scientifically than "psychic phenomenon".)

kate (kate), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe they charge depending on the results.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate C'est Vrais. I guess they can't always be "on."

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate is OTM

Pink - I'm not sure if you can tape it, they're a nice bunch and dead easy going tho, so I don't see them objecting. You need to remember if you do go that's there's no guarantee that they'll even look at you nevermind give you a message, and sometimes it's a pants medium they have or it's just not a good night for speaking to dead folk....

smee (smee), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah i have just thought of that. I guess that it's important to you so you just assume it will happen when you want it to.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, first couple of times I went I was desperate to get a message but when it came to it I was terrified they might actually speak to me!

smee (smee), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I think i will be exactly the same. Desperately wanting it to be me, but hoping it wont be. If it was I can see myself in floods of tears!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Exactly! You do get kinda caught up in the atmosphere and it can be quite emotional just watching somebody else get a message.

smee (smee), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"dead easy going," smee? :)

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Chortle. I tried so hard to not give you pun-making opps too!

smee (smee), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw that, but thought I'd let it go!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.borealforest.org/world/mammals/russian_flying_squirrel.jpg
Boo!

I can't decide if I should dress up in costume for work tomorrow. It might be fun. I mean, when else can I get away with wearing something bizarre to work? But also, it's a casual day, so maybe I'd have more fun in my denim skirt. hmmm...

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd love to dress up for tomorrow. I'll just hide out with the candy, and gag my altruistic side. Kids are already overweight as tis

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I was so going to dress up in the office today, but then HSA said that since the opening we are going to tonight is in West London somewhere, that I might as well just go on from work. So I decided against it.

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahhh, boo to that idea.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I know, I'm no fun. Maybe I should have work really psychedelic clothes and dressed up as a LOUIS WAIN CAT!!!

http://www.schizophrenia.org/cat.jpg

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The one on the top right looks like it's had its eyes gouged out!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

And you know what a cat looks like with it's eyes gouged out?!

smee (smee), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

d-d-doesn't everyone?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It doesn't normally, it's a poor reproduction, though the eyes are very red and scary.

Thing is, people talking about Schitzophrenia often show that sequence to talk about how Louis Wain (and therefore schitzophrenics "deteriorate") but actually the paintings are really out of chronological sequence.

The best ones are actually the cartoons where he shows how cats are actually protection against Communists and Communist Waves in the atmosphere, because of their whiskers.

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Now back to the eye gouging ;-)

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

ten for today:

Siouxsie & The Banshees 'Peek-A-Boo'
Outkast 'Dracula's Wedding'
Was Not Was 'Out Come The Freaks'
Doc Scott 'The Unofficial Ghost' (DARKSTEP PRESSHHHA)
Zongamin 'Mummies'
Slacker 'Scared'
Rockwell 'Somebody's Watching Me'
Nicolette 'Nightmare'
Tricky 'Pumpkin'
Kernkraft 4000 'Zombie Nation'

stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Wot, no Screaming Jay Hawkins or the Monster Mash? Boo!

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

And where the hell is Ministry?!?!? mmm-bop-bop, mmmm-bop-bop!

Catty (Catty), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you singing Hanson again, Catty I've WARNED you about doing that in public!

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhh Hanson, it's so horrible!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh fie, I love the Rockist Bubblegum! (Besides, we all know it's Mr. Noodles' secret occupation. He only pretends to be a database programmer so we won't catch on.)

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

THe cat at bottom left is obviously an owl.

I'm kind of dressed up today, but not really. I just felt like wearing some weird stuff to work.

Navy blue nail polish was such fun in high school, but it's kind of a pain today. It makes the ends of my fingers feel tight and I have scraped blue paint on a couple of papers already. (Ok, maybe I'm going crazy...)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

And the one bottom right is a dragon...

smee (smee), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

the thing about louis wain is that his paintings go from looking fairly normal- to what the hell? & then insane ! insane ! insane !

kephm, Friday, 31 October 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.collectors.demon.co.uk/StockPhotos/Postcards/Louiswain1.jpg

How could I not know about him?

Actually, I have this weird pic that Nick's parents found me at an estate sale - it's from a newspaper or magazine a long time ago. There are these kitties in a classroom being taught by another kitty and it looks quite a bit like these...

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to go see a live reenactment of Thriller tonight on Main St. The local dance troupe put on last year and it was awesome. Zombies! Dancing! Michael Jackson impersonation!

I will then go to a party and get sickdrunk on homemade wine.

Dale the Titled (cprek), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

But the best ones are the ones that are insane and normal looking at the same time! The cats that *look* normal, but are doing and saying totally mental things. It's strange, there are some that are fairly normal cats in front of really psychedelic Victorian wallpaper (though come to think of it, much of Victorian decoration was wonderfully mental) - yet the abstractions look a lot like the wallpaper.

I am really, really, really looking forward to the opening tonight. Though I'll probably have sugar crashed and burned by then... though there's always alcohol at openings to compensate.

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Doesn't the one I posted look incredibly suspicious? What is that cat thinking?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah, I thought of you when we got the invite to the exhibition! Louis Wain has you written all over him! (Well, not literally, that would be weird.) The cats looks so freaky and odd because they look so... human!

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.outsiderart.co.uk/Thumbnails-124x160/wain1.jpg

he is one of the few outsider artists that give me the creeps.

kephm, Friday, 31 October 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Ermmm... sorry, Kephm, but popular misconception about Louis Wain Number 2: Not an outsider artist at all. A wildly popular Victorian illustrator with technical drawing eduction (IIRC). Just being schitzophrenic doesn't make someone an "outsider".

(Sorry, the phrase "outsider art" is one of my biggest pet peeves.)

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

um, i would never label a schitzo an 'outsider',believe me. i was being lazy and grabbed the term 'outsider' from the website where i found the painting. wain just freaks me out in a good way. (discussing art on a whole is one of my pet peeves)

to answer the posted question, i will be going to 'The Grand Procession of the Ghouls' at St Johns. I hope it is ok. I may just end up at the rerelease of 'ALien' somwhere.

kephm, Friday, 31 October 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, cool. I just have this huge problem with "outsider art" because it is such an offensive catch-all term, in that most of the people who actually *make* "outsider art" don't consider themselves outsiders at all. It seems patronising to me.

But I agree, Wain's art is wonderfully demented.

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.shelales.com/images/Animals/Halloween%20dog.jpg

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

*falls off chair*

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Has anyone seen Scary Movie 3? I can't decide if I should go see it...

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.knebworthhouse.com/images/ghost.jpg

BWAH HA HA!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.savonarolamustburn.com/PA310333.JPG

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 1 November 2003 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

You've erm, got a little something on your face.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Saturday, 1 November 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)


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