Footballing relations - search and destroy!

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This thread is inspired by a (possibly untrue) piece of footballing trivia my friend told me: according to he, Eidar Gudjohnsen once played for the Icelandic international team while his father was also playing. can anyone confirm this?

Anyway, please talk about great footballing children of great footballing parents. And about footballers who started out at clubs where their Great Footballing Father was the manager, and then promptly went into freefall. you get the idea.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Harry & Jamie Redknapp vs Brian & Nigel Clough

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

is Cloughie Jr retired?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, guess it's *possible* for someone to be playing in the same team as their father. An 18 year old and a 37 year old father and son - definitely not out of the question!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think it was Eidur Gudjonnsseen (yes I know that's spelt wrong) but yes, a father and son played for Iceland, or maybe the Faroes, not that long ago.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Cloughie Jr now manages Burton Albion, he's usually linked wih most vacant 2nd and 3rd division management posts.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The Allens - a footballing dynasty let down only by Dave's comedy and Keith's Fat Les songs.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I seem to remember it being the Faroe Island as well.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I stand corrected, it was Eidur!

Has there ever been a father and son playing professional football at the same time? Andy

Somewhat surprisingly it has happened more than once and in international football as well as the domestic game.



Gudjohnsen: father and son
Perhaps the most famous example is Chelsea striker Eidur Gudjohnsen and his father Arnor. In April 1996 the Icelandic international, then aged 17, came on as a substitute in the clash with Estonia. The man he was replacing was his 35-year-old father Arnor Gudjohnsen

The last example of a father and son playing together in the domestic game was on April 21 1990 when Hereford played Scunthorpe in the old Fourth Division. On that occasion eighteen year old Gary Bowyer scored the injury time equaliser in a 3-3 draw; earlier in the game his father Ian Bowyer, 39, had come on as a substitute.

Another example was the Stockport line-up against Hartlepool on May 5 1931. This time both father Alec Herd, 39, and son David Herd, 17, played from the start.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: The Maldini's
Destroy: The Strachans, The Cloughs (maybe search if Nigel becomes a good mananger)

Davel, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Darren Ferguson

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

wasn't nigel clough a decent player when he was at forest? i seem to remember him being good, but it's quite a long time ago, to me anyway!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian Wright and Sean Wright-Philips I beleive were both playing pro football at the same time, I seem to remember that there was a chnce they could have played against each other but it never happened.

Davel, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Gavin Strachan

Jonathan Gould, oh, hang on....

Someone got arrested for racially abusing Ian Wright last night at Loftus road after he clebrated his adopted son scoring his first goal.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I never rated Nigel Clough, Brian however was meant to be a bit special as a player but his playing career was cut short by injury. As a manager he has to be one of the greatest english managers ever, his son seems to be doing OK at Burton.

Davel, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The Bothams??
Ian Pro sportsman in two diciplines, (One football)
and son pro in three (none football)
They have to be the best all round sports father and son.

Davel, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the Ian Wright / Shaun Wright-Phillips nearly thing was while he was on loan at Burnley. Should point out that Shaun is adopted too.

"Shaun Wright, Wright, Wright. Phillips" chants me.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

wither Paul Dalglish?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Brian was top scorer for Boro, but had to retire at about 26 so never got to go on to fabulousness.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

the Witschges, the Kanus, the Laudrups, the Arveladzes.

David. (Cozen), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

do the father and son on "Dream Team" count?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone got arrested for racially abusing Ian Wright last night at Loftus road after he clebrated his adopted son scoring his first goal.

wasn't it Shaun himself who was being abused (shocking from a QPR fan) and an incensed Ian accosted him for this?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

quite possibly. Wrighty had to be moved from the directors box from what I heard

chris (chris), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Paul Dalglish recently released by Linfield or Glentoran or someone.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Wrighty only works round the corner from Loftus Road of course, heheheh

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Nigel Clough was an excellent player for years at Forest, though he never really worked out for England - I noticed that his instinctive attacking moves and runs mirrored Lineker's, except Gary obviously got there first every time, leaving Nigel looking for something else to do. And Nigel's great passing game at Forest depended on knowing his teammates really well, which again vanished at international level.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Father and son Search: Ray and Stephen 'phew, I got Mum's genes then' Clemence.

Destroy: Danny Greaves, Paul Dalglish, Sergei 'my sister beat a seed at Wimbledon, you know' Baltacha.

But the GREBTEST football family of all just has to be from Scotland, as anyone who ever idly peruses the Sunday papers line-ups will know. I speak of course of the family Trialist. In my capacity as a sometime Ceefax editor putting up SL Div 3 line-ups I once had a team (East Stirling ? Albion ?) that featured A, B and C Trialist in the starting eleven ! My, my Mr and Mrs Trialist must have been so proud of, err, Alex ? Billy ? and um, Crawford ?

darren (darren), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Calum, obv.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Then there were cousins Dougie, Eric and Frankie McTrialist.

darren (darren), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, not father and son, but they are related to each other so I thought I would share my theory about the de Boers. You know how when two players with the same surname are in the same squad, they have to put their intial on their jersey as well as their surname (like A Cole and J Cole in England games for example). Well, for the last few seasons(i.e. since he signed) Rangers have insisted on Ronald de Boer having "R de Boer" on the back of his jersey like they are expecting his brother to change his mind and sign for Rangers at any time. GIVE IT UP, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!

Oh, and to get back on track, Kevin Gallacher's grandad Patsy used to play for Celtic way back in days of yore. I believe Mr Gallacher Sr was by far the better player.

Ooh, I know. Has anyone mentioned Frank Lampard Sr and Jr yet?

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I vaguely remember Old Frank as a player at the tail end of his career at West Ham in the mid 70s, playing alonside blokes like Billy Bonds, Trevor Brooking, 'Whatever Happened To' Merv Day, and Clive Best 'that bloody darkie! Never thought I'd see the day! (Calm down Alf!)' Now Young Frank is well and truly established, and I'm feeling well and truly ancient.

In the local Aus foootball competition, one of my favorite players as a boy was Peter Hudson of Hawthorn. I remember the hoo-haa when he burst onto the scene suddenly in 1968 and broke all kinds of scoring records that had stood for many years. I instantly aged 10 years in my mind two years ago, when I heard that Hudson's son Paul (who wasn't his old man's bootlace as a footballer) had announced HIS retirement from the game.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

appearently phil and gary neville's dad is called neville neville

robin (robin), Thursday, 30 October 2003 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

also,the summerbees,and i think frances lee had a son who played as well,although i can't remember if it was for city or not

robin (robin), Thursday, 30 October 2003 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Sergei Baltacha's relative who once beat a seed at Wimblydon was his daughter, Elena.

If you read the Non-League Paper, you realise that most managers appear to have sons who play the game. Add to list:

Mark Nicholas (Son of Peter)
Andy Todd (Son of Colin)
Gregor Rioch (Son of Bruce)

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't see the Ferdinands mentioned above. Les at Leicester, Anton at West Ham, Rio off his shinpads on skank and Archduke Franz inadvertantly changing the course of history.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Not to mention the Bonds: John overseeing a respectable time in Norwich's history; Kevin the inspiration for our classic "2-4-6-8 overweight!" song; James played number 7 for the Civil Service team.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)

don't forget their ever-so cousin basildon!!

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

He played for Canvey Island as he was a tasty geezoh.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

'Whatever Happened To' Merv Day

Assistant to Alan Curbishley at Charlton.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I vaguely remember Old Frank as a player at the tail end of his career at West Ham in the mid 70s, playing alonside blokes like Billy Bonds, Trevor Brooking, 'Whatever Happened To' Merv Day, and Clive Best 'that bloody darkie! Never thought I'd see the day! (Calm down Alf!)' Now Young Frank is well and truly established, and I'm feeling well and truly ancient.

God yes. It was Lampard Sr's slow-motion header that destroyed my Wembley dreams in 1980 - the Elland Road semifinal replay vs Everton, last minute of extra time.

Hey, Fred, there's a tennis thread on!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"Frank fell over and the ball went in." God I was a happy ten year old that night.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

As I recall, the goal Brooking won the final with in 1980 was even less classical: a spilt save, a slow pass to Clever Trevor, and a shot which came to rest of its own accord between the line and the net.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 30 October 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Sergei Baltacha's relative who once beat a seed at Wimblydon was his daughter, Elena.

Sergei Baltacha Jr is also a footballer (I use the term loosely here, as he played for St Mirren).

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

And John "brother of Celtic's Chris" Sutton (this would appear to be his full name) plays for Raith Rovers.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"As I recall, the goal Brooking won the final with in 1980 was even less classical: a spilt save, a slow pass to Clever Trevor, and a shot which came to rest of its own accord between the line and the net."

Let me take you back, Fred. About 17 minutes past three on a Saturday afternoon, my parents front room in Essex. Me, all excited. My dad, drunk. My mum, shopping. My sister, dunno. We conformed to stereotypes in our house.

Break down the left (Alan Devonshire), long cross over, blocked shot on the line, fired back in my Stuart Pearson and basically, it hits Trevor on the head and he stumbles and it goes in.

Would have had another if Willie Young hadn't brought down Paul Allen late on. Before the days of instant red cards for a professional foul. Paul was only 17, bless him.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)


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