"misogynist classix vol. 1"

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only the most irredeemable. best songs will have "it's the revolution so fuck me" undertones.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

track 1. "action woman" - the litter

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

track 2. "pushin' too hard" - the seeds

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

3) Music Machine "Double Yellow Line". ("don't say 'no'...don't say that word...I'm gonna pretend I NEVER HEARD!")

― dave q, Monday, 3 November 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(re 'revolution' - would "She Watch Channel Zero!" count? I mean, disparaging some woman's intelligence and character on account of the guy's WANTING TO WATCH FOOTBALL INSTEAD is even more contemptuous than demanding sexual favours!)

― dave q, Monday, 3 November 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

if it requires explanation, it doesn't belong here.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

OK - Treniers, "Uh-Oh (Get Out Of the Car)"! No explanation needed!

― dave q, Monday, 3 November 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I love it already.

― Sean (Sean), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Sperminator: No Woman Allowed.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Ice Cube: "You Can't Fade Me"

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah "uh oh (get out of the car)" is fantastic!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Extreme - More Than Words

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 3 November 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

the avengers - be a caveman

oh, oh, oh, oh!
you gotta treat a woman rough
you gotta treat a woman tough
be a caveman (oh, oh, oh)
and keep her in line

oh, oh, oh, oh!
you gotta pull her by the hair
hold her tighter than a grizzly bear
be a caveman (oh, oh, oh)
and keep her in line

you gotta show a woman who wears the pants
if you want her to stick by you
you can have her eating right out of your hand
heres what ya gotta do..

show a woman that you're a man
you gotta show her where you stand
be a caveman (oh, oh, oh)
and keep her in line

oh, oh, oh, oh!

be a caveman!

― joni, Monday, 3 November 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

ghostface killah - "wildflower"

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 3 November 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

the normal majority - in the kitchen

i thank the lord i was born a boy
cos beering and relaxing is such a joy
i dont clean house or wash the dishes
the lord made those chores for the missus

so wash them dishes and scrub them pans
a man aint meant to have dishpan hands
stop your whining and stop your bitchin
a womans place is in the kitchen

you change the diapers while i go to work
a man in an apron is known as a jerk
i'll be at the club eating and a-drinking
while your at home with kids a-pooping and a-stinking

so bake me that bread and make that jelly
cook that food for my belly
i was never one to break tradition
a womans place is in the kitchen

pull the weeds and mow the lawn
for recreation you scrub the john
let her into the store and do the shopping
rush back home to commence the scrubbing and the mopping

i didnt marry you because your good looking
i married you for your good home cooking
stop your whining and stop your bitchin
a womans place is in the kitchen

watch her bake, cook, scrub, clean, and mopping
theres lots of things to do so you better get hopping
when i get home from work and your acting so tired
you should thank me your my wife so you dont get fired

i didnt marry you cos yer perty
i married you cos my house was dirty
stop your whining and stop your bitchin
a womans place is in
oh i said its in the
its in the kitchen

do you be givin me none of your lip now honey!

― joni, Monday, 3 November 2003 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Isley Brothers, "Work To Do." Also, much G.G. Allin.

― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Holly Dunn - Maybe I Mean Yes

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

f*** your face - dj shitspitter

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

i would also like to add that i don't consider misogyny classic in any way!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

can we have explanations plz?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

stranglers to thread, esp 'peaches'

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

"Work To Do" isn't misogynist! He wants to spend more time with her, but can't because he needs to work to make the money to keep her. There isn't even a hint of misogyny in the lyrics.

However, "Rum to Whiskey" by Murder City Devils is ...

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, the line dave q quotes upthread is from "i'm gonna make you mine" by the shadows of knight not the music machine.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 3 November 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Bitches Ain't Shit But Hoes and Tricks...

― Super ModJ, Monday, 3 November 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Sadly, The Mentors own this thread.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 3 November 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.fiu.edu/~library/assistance/enc1102/fred22.jpg
NOT TRUE I OWN ALLZ YOU FUCKAZ ON THIS

― fred, Monday, 3 November 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

El Duce begs (from hell where he sits at Satan's left hand) to differ. Here's an example of why:

ROCK 'EM & SOCK 'EM
I WENT OUT DRINKIN'
DRINKIN' WITH THE BOYS
I HAD TO DO IT TO GET ALL MY JOYS
I GOT DRUNK, SO HIGH ON SOME BOOZE
COMIN' HOME BABY, TO GIVE YOU A BRUISE
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM, IT'S A GAS
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM,
FUCKING KICK YOUR ASS
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM, IT'S A GAS
GONNA COME HOME DRUNK
AND KICK YOUR BIG FAT ASS
SEEIN' OTHER GUYS
WITH THE MAKE-UP ALL OVER THEIR EYES
I HAD TO LEARN HER THE LAW OF THE LAND
I SHOWED HER THE POWER OF MY BACK HAND
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM, IT'S A GAS
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM,
FUCKING KICK YOUR ASS
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM, IT'S A GAS
GONNA COME HOME DRUNK, LITTLE WOMAN
AND KICK YOUR BIG SLUTTY ASS
AND I'M GONNA BEAT YOU
AND WHIP YOU WITH MY BELTS
ON YOUR FACE I'M GONNA LEAVE SOME BRUISES
ON YOUR ASS I'LL LEAVE A WELT
(NO, NO) I DON'T WANT TO MISS HER
GONNA POP HER IN THE KISSER
(NO, NO) I DON'T WANT TO HEAR HER NAG
GONNA USE YOUR FACE FOR A PUNCHING BAG
BEAT YOU AND BEAT YOU
AND BEAT YOU AND BEAT YOU
I'M GONNA PUNCH YOU WHERE YOU KISS
AND I'M GONNA BEAT YOU BABY
IF YOU LOVE ME DRINK MY PISS
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM, IT'S A GAS
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM, FUCKING KICK YOUR ASS
ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM, IT'S A GAS
GONNA COME HOME DRUNK
AND KICK YOUR BIG SLUTTY ASS
PIG BEATING, PIG BEATING, PIG BEATING
THAT'S HOW I GET MY KICKS, TAKE THAT SLUT
(OH, OH)THIS TIME I DON'T WANT TO MISS HER
GONNA PUNCH HER IN THE KISSER
(OH, OH) DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU NAG
GONNA USE YOUR FACE FOR A PUNCHING BAG

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 3 November 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, a mod may want to just delete that post.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 3 November 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i regret this thread

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm kinda regretting ever posting to ILX in the first place.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

see also, half of the songs that Anal Cunt ever did...

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

shock bands are too easy

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, oddly enough, Shockabilly isn't.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

prince buster : 'ten commandments'. absolutely brilliant.

among these : number one - thou shalt have no man but me.
: number three - remember to kiss and caress me
honour and obey me in my every whim and fancy
: number five - thou shall not provoke me to anger
or my wrath will descend upon you heavily
: number eight - thou shall not drink or smoke
nor use profane language for these bad habits
i will not stand
(best of all) :
number nine - thou shall not commit adultery, for
the world will not hold guilty if i commit murder

it's his delivery that makes it funny. sorry if it looks a bit severe on the page ! everybody go and listen to prince buster !

here's the full thing

scroll down

http://members.tripod.com/rytradska/sjlyrics.html#prince

― piscesboy, Monday, 3 November 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

definitely prince buster! what about "big five": "how many times have i wanted/to lay my [whonk] inside her/and to think now she has to beg me" or "today i'm feeling sexy/want the big fat pussy to stay the night" or "there's gonna be water/all over the bed/there's gonna be water/all over her head".
pisces otm, though - he makes the whole thing sound so joyful.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Vital track: 'Woman's Been After Man Ever Since' by Blind Alfred Reed.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah prince buster! alfred reed! this thread is moving again...

alfred reed seems more moralistic than misogynist usually... but he always has these strange juxtapositions of ecumenicist idealism and of-his-time pettiness:

In the same kind of raiment and the same kind of shoes,
We'll all sit together in the same kind of pews,
The whites and the colored folks, the gentiles and the Jews,
We'll praise the Lord together and there'll be no drinking booze,
There'll be no distinction there.

no booze?!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

booze would probably lead to much more joyful and heartfelt praise.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

of what?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the pews?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

of everything: "i love you, man!"

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

the best line in the song i quoted is "we'll all be white in that heavenly light" which is a textbook example of "close but no cigar"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Listen to that track by Blind Alfred Reed and tell me it's not misogynist! I'm sure he intends it as moralistic, but it's an open and shut case.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

no i agree with you, i was just being pedantic

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

blind alfred reed is like my undergraduate thesis come to life

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Bryan I don't think it's bad you posted that song cos it's like, not offensive if it's in the context of 'look at this as an example' sort of thing. And I am the sort of person who gets their feelings hurt by eg the misogynist violence in Basic Instinct and stuff. On the contrary it's good to post that sort of stuff because otherwise some people are like 'ha ha can't you take a joke it's all in good fun bla bla'.

Also does 'Pushing too Hard' count as misogynistic? Like, less than 'Can you please crawl through my window' and 'All I want to do is be friends with you' I think. Those are examples I reckon of 'revolutionary misogyny'. I think in 'Pushing too Hard' there are some lines about how the girl is unfaithful and that's why he doesn't like her ... yes, here:

Well, better listen girl to what I'm tellin' you
You better listen girl, or we are through
You better stop all your foolin' around
Stop your runnin' all over town
'Cause you're pushin' too hard
Pushin' too hard on me (too hard)

Well I know there's a lotta fish in the sea
I know some would-uh stay by me
So if you don't think I'm gonna try
You better ask yourself the reason why
'Cause you're pushin' too hard
Pushin' too hard on me (too hard)

Also there is nothing about abusing the girl in this song. I don't like the lyrics of 'Hey Ya' because it's part of the Bob Dylan 'I'm just being honest' genre and I don't like that, I mean, could they handle girls being 'honest' with them?

― maryann (maryann), Monday, 3 November 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah "just like a woman" qualifies here too

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Some songs like... 'Girl after Girl' express more ambiguous ideas about infidelity - they're not lecturing the girl about 'raising her consciousness' - and dismissing her feelings as false. So maybe 'Just Like A Woman' is kind of better in that sense because he's at least admitting the girl is getting fucked up!

I think lots of girls like the clever misogynistic songs because they identify with the male narrator.

― maryann (maryann), Monday, 3 November 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Another more complicated idea is ... I think that when girls try to empathise with the male point of view, they empathise with the stereotype of the male point of view. I mean, someone who is powerful, cocky, the world is his domain, selfish, clever, witty. They don't identify with the true spectrum of masculine personae which seems to range a lot closer to the female point of view than girls realise. This is just a hypothesis - perhaps I'm the only one who has this problem. I mean when I try to predict how boys will respond to a situation - like this thread - I'm surprised to see how many boys respond from the caring, 'feminine' position. It's very difficult as a girl to imagine the male world. Because from the female point of view, it does seem as if the world belongs to men. Walk along the street, it's arranged for them - all the posters are for their pleasure, the girls are dressed for them (but not vice versa), the pornography is for them, work and play is for them ... If I imagine being a boy, it's a world of joy, even just turning on the television! So you sort of think that if you were a boy, you'd be selfish and completely unenlightened about other people's suffering, through not having had to experience it yourself. And misogynistic fun seems like a natural expression of that 'joy'. But that's not how it turns out to be.

― maryann (maryann), Monday, 3 November 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Have you heard the Nina Simone version of Just Like A Woman where she changes the lyric to "And I don't break because I'm not a little girl." On the one hand, fair enough, on the other oh good grief this is hopeless.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 November 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah that sounds really strident and obvious aka very nina simone (ducks i love nina too please)

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

the problem was in covering the song to begin with

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Sweet "Someone Else Will"

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 November 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't mean to ignore your post maryann which i can't bring myself to praise either simply because it would sound condescending but it was great

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

tim hardin "you upset the grace of living when you lie" and "don't make promises"

bob dylan "4th time around" and "if you gotta go, go now"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 1 July 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that when girls try to empathise with the male point of view, they empathise with the stereotype of the male point of view. I mean, someone who is powerful, cocky, the world is his domain, selfish, clever, witty. They don't identify with the true spectrum of masculine personae which seems to range a lot closer to the female point of view than girls realise.

i guess its not much use to post to this since maryann may not be reading, but i wonder which "girls" she is referring to. its an interesting idea, and may well apply to some women, but the way its phrased is pretty deterministic.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"Still Talkin'" - Eazy-E

― Evanston Wade (EWW), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

maryann is cool

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, i like her too.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

okay and she said just after that that she's coming at it from a personal perspective. but when you're talking personally its safer not to say that women don't identify with the vast and various manifestations of maleness!

i don't identify with sexism or misogyny in dylan or the stones cos i am empathising with an ideal of masculinity. i identify with it cos i am just as capable of exhibiting assholishness as they are.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

"shake some action" has some questionable lines

― amateurist, Saturday, 24 October 2009 08:22 (sixteen years ago)

lol somebody nominating a particular Eazy track upthread.

― Erol "Bomber" Alkan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 October 2009 09:38 (sixteen years ago)

lee dorsey 'get out of my live woman'

― ian, Saturday, 24 October 2009 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

life^^

― ian, Saturday, 24 October 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

lime spiders, "slave girl"

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 24 October 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

lee dorsey 'get out of my live woman'

just for the record, this is a top 10 all time typo which I will be lol'ing about for years, appreciate it

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 24 October 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

― ian, Saturday, 24 October 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

Yin Yang Twins "Wait"

Ay bitch! wait til you see my dick
Wait til you see my dick

Beat da pussy up, Beat da pussy up, Beat da pussy up, Beat da pussy up, Beat da pussy up, Beat da pussy up, Beat da pussy
Up, Beat da pussy up

― unused user (Jesse), Saturday, 24 October 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

thread needs to revive with more mid-late 1960s examples.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 28 July 2013 21:01 (twelve years ago)

Okay then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2NGntyQb1I

― everything, Sunday, 28 July 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W225IXrQDLE

― everything, Sunday, 28 July 2013 23:23 (twelve years ago)

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