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Following on from the microwaves thread, how much attention do you pay to big health scares? Did you give up meat when nvCJD appeared? Do you use an earpiece with your mobile? Do you think power lines give you cancer? And so on.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

New answers give you gout!

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"There's no cure, there's no answer"

― dave q, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I used to have that attitude, too. Newsflash: taking care of yourself allows you to lead a more energetic and overall happy life. But, you kinda have to try it first to see the difference, so a lot of people won't bother.
I don't eat bleached white flour very often because I've seen the effects of it on about a dozen people. This means pasta, bread, all kinds of yummy shit. It's poison and unnatural. It turns to sugar, spikes your insulin level and makes you a "carb addict". Also, it makes you fat, causes irritible bowel syndrom and "food allergies" which are not allergies at all, but an overexposure to the wrong kinds of food, diabetes, pancreas & liver disorders (er, I think), all kinds of shit.
I don't use the microwave much at all, but occasionally do. I stopped smoking years ago. I drink tons of filtered water. I try to avoid anything that's vacuum sealed and packaged in plastic (usually, these kinds of foods are pure garbage anyway).
I do cardio 45 minutes a day, workout with heavy weights 4 or 5 days a week and drink alcohol only occasionally.
Every meal I have (and I have 5 a day) consists of a low-glycerine carbohydrate, protein and unsaturated fat (olive oil or fish oil [this goes along with the protein, I don't squeeze a fish into a glass]).
After eating like this for only a few months there was a big difference in everything from my complexion to my mood to the kind of shits I take and the kind of odor I make when I do so. Overall, shits included, I've discovered a person is mostly better off eating uncooked, natural food. Fish and meat I cook, though.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?

― Nick, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I already have, man! I've decided to not have them! And, also, if I see them starving, I try to feed them something other than bags of flour mush.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mmm... flour mush.

― Nick, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And yet you refuse to wear clothes? Most fascinating...

― mark s, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Clothes are made by what amounts to slave labor under circumstances that are obviously exploitive. Also, clothes are unnatural. Why be ashamed of your body? What could be more impressive than a functioning, healthy body? In the winter months, however, I do slit a deer wide open and cover up for warmth, after eating it's entire entrails cooked over a natural-like forest fire.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I'm off to Dunkin Donuts to get a nice, healthy large cup of coffee and a couple jelly doughnuts, after which I will grab a six pack of canned beer and throw the plastic rings in the Hudson after I've finished 'em off. It's good being unemployed.

Hey, I just watched Dr. Strangelove this morning. How's that for non sequitur?

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Perhaps you've got mic e.

― Nick, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If anything in sufficiently high doses can be lethal then everything in moderation has to be the key. Then again, what do I know. I eat thirty raw eggs every day and smoke ten packs of Camel. And that's just for breakfast.

― Trevor, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Perhaps this makes me a poof. I don't know, ask Nick.

― Trevor, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, JOe Jackson ...

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Sleep gives you cancer man, everyone knows that."

― DG, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, and breathing is addictive too.

― Geoff, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The funny thing is everyone mutually agrees to just throw their arms in the air (still attached, of course) and say, "ah, fuck it", rather than do anything whatsoever about the curse/convenience of technology. It's why you might as well not vote, because if people don't boycott selfish big business, no amount of jimminy cricket nagging and whining is going to scare anyone with a multibillion dollar idea that will completely contaminate the environment within a hundred year period. Wait and see what the situation looks like when you're 80. In 1940, the water, land and air were perfectly clean. It's almost unbelievable, isn't it?

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In 1940, the water, land and air were perfectly clean.

Not over here, they weren't.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Comparatively, there was nothing that the earth couldn't fix all by itself in a relatively short period of time.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes but in 1940 London was drowning in a century-long Dickensian industrial fog which killed a lot of people. YOu can't say things haven't improved since then.

― Sam, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, yes and medicine can keep you alive longer. We no longer have the plague, etc. Our wars are fewer and cleaner. Great. You live in the western world which represents quite the minority. You are among the few people who actually receive the benefits of the earth's contamination and destruction. The rest of the world is merely being contaminated against its will.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nude, are you serious? you cardio 45 min a day and have shit that smells like roses? damn, and i'm just worried about eating a whataburger once a month. . .

― Samantha, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not roses! It just doesn't smell! And there's not much to wipe, either. Good solid shits. Ahhhh. My pee is bright yellow and sometimes stinks, though, but I hear that's good. As fer cardio, I got one of them Gazelles. Best investment ever (simpson's guy ref.). Seriously, it's like running, but it doesn't hurt your knees or back and also works your upper body (chest and abs) due to these levers you hold which you can push or pull on as you "run". It's great, really.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Btw, if I'm annoying everyone, I'll be the first to admit it's impossible to not be hypocritical and environmentally/socially concerned unless you live in a cave. So, yeah, I own a computer, get cable tv, wear sneakers (which gotta be toxic as fuck to create)... and, sometimes, yes... I do wear clothes. But, I don't litter, pour used oil into the sewer drain or own a cell phone. So, anyway, I wasn't trying to accuse anyone of being a bad, evil-type person for going with the flow of tech-no-lo-gee.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

tube travel gives you lung trouble. too much quartz and carbon something. what next? dangerous cigarettes? i went to guildford recently. it had lovely air.

― alix, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My understanding is that they yellower your pee is, the more dehydrated you are. Looks like you need more filtered water, NS.

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It also could indicate you have too muh protein in your diet (urea is waste product of broken down protein and is what makes piss yellow)

― Nick, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Life is decay.

Death metal is full of truth.

― jel, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan, yellow pee means an excess of vitamins, C in particular. That's all. Take a multivitamin and witness the difference. It's always better to have a little extra. But, yes, when I drink too damn much water I piss all too often and it is always water color (unless I took my vitamins w/in the last hour or so).

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jel, who is it that sang, "as soon as you're born, you're dying"? Anyone? It's not a death metal tune. Might be punk. I just can't place it.

― Nude SPock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

To further clarify, my pee can be fluorescent yellow, not that rusted deep yellow putrid-smelling vile shit that you walk up to at a public urinal. Sorry to give ye the wrong imperssion. Ar.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nudespock...It was Iron Maiden, it was on the Seventh Son album...it was one of the singles...

― jel, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

To be more precise, it was on the Clairvoyant:

There's a time to live and a time to die
When it's time to meet the maker
There's a time to live but isn't it strange
That as soon as you're born you're dying

― jel, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

needed: a potty-side "pee guide" taped to wall with color gradations and helpful dietary advice along the spectrum.

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

needed: NudeSpock's piss - discuss

― Samantha, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's vitamin B2 that makes your piss fluorescent, not vitamin C. It won't do you any harm but it's a bit wasteful...

― Hans Moleman, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks, jel! I like Iron Maiden.

― Nude Spock, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't believe that you are worried about flour, which turns into glucose in your body (that's that same body that was designed to use glucose as its primary, and preferably only, fuel mind you) and yet you eat fish and meat! Cooked fish and meat at that!!

― toraneko, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a big difference between bleached wheat flour and low-glycerine carbs. I guess you've never heard of the rollercoaster effects of spiking your insulin levels? Well, for one example, a woman having her period often wants chocolate or candy or ice cream. This is because during this time, her insulin levels are low (usually due to improper diet, along with this wonderful cycle), which is directly related to brain chemistry and depression. A rush of sugar increases endorphins for a very short period of time, after which you crash lower than before. This is the same situation with carb addicts. Also, these shitty carbs only temporarily fill you because there is nothing of value in them. Your body immediately stores the converted sugar as fat and within an hour you're craving more potato chips. Meat and fish have substance and are used by your body as actual nutrition. It's probably true that vegetable protein and fat sources would be better for you than meat and fish, but if you have the time to find interesting sources of this type of nutrition, you probably don't do anything else in life but drive around to health stores.

― Nude Spock, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yeah, and it's not just bleached white flour. Whole wheat flour still has a buttload more carbs than, say, a piece of fruit. And, if you think we've evolved to be dependent on a bunch of grain ground up and cooked, rather than picked a piece of fruit and eating it raw, you're wacky. It's the cheapest food there is, which is why there's so much of it. That's why Italian food "sticks to your ribs" but a lot of other high-carb foods don't. There are different sorts of carbs, just like there are different sorts of fats.

There are 3 families of carbs: the complex, the simple, and the fibrous carb. Complex carbohydrates are "slowly" released into the system (body). Examples of complex carbs are potatoes and pasta. Complex carbs make up the bulk of most diets. They stay in the body longer than any other type of carb and are utilized over extended periods of time.

― Nude Spock, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Today for breakfast I had half a packet of Maryland chocolate cookies and five Marlboros

― dave q, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Plus, I'm NEVER sick EVER

― dave q, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's hope you have several dozen children to pass on your good genes!... Unless, of course, you're in your early 20s or something... young people have relatively few problems except a few who get a lot of cavities or allergies. People who have colds all the time are usually depressed. It's true!

― Nude Spock, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nude Spock, I don't know if you've come across this article before but it might appeal to you http://www.nexusma gazine.com/SugarBlues.html - certainly it is food for thought.

Carbohydrates are divided into simple carbohydrates (monosaccharides & disaccharides - which are the sugars) and complex carbohydrates (polysaccharides - which are the starches and fibres).

― toraneko, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yesh, but starch converts to sugar and all carbs are stored as fat if not immediately used for fuel. Which kind of explains why some people who load up on pasta before a big workout have trouble losing a gut... because they're taking in more carbs than they need for energy that they think they need. Also explains why the high carb/low fat diets that began in the 70s have led to a whole nation of people that spend 3/4 of their lives working out and eating "healthy" yet they somehow remain overweight. They think they're doing the right thing by eating brown rice, cereal and fruit but they are basically loading up on carbs and sugar rather than having balanced meals.

― Nude Spock, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have taken the oppioste tack to Mr Spock. I realize everything i love , everything that gives me pleasure will be bad for me. Giving up a pleasure seems wrong to me...

― anthony, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anthony, just so's ya know, I started smoking when I was 12 or 13, smoked my first joint at 13, began drinking the same year or a little later (also pretty much tried every drug at least once) and continued to do so more and more right through college and a few years after college I was still drinking at least on weekends and smoking a pack a day or so. Gradually, it happened that a pack would last me 2 days or more. When I started working out, I gave up drinking and smoking. Couldn't believe how out of shape I was! I remember when 20 pushups was difficult and winded me!

Anyway, all I'm sayin' is to each his own. I've lived enough lifestyles in my young life to understand different perspectives on things and I totally respect self-destructive people and devil-may-care people. I just wouldn't date anyone like that nowadays. Before, I used to seek them out. Now, I have vivid recollections of what it's like to be drunk, out of shape and smoking and the kookiness associated with people of little restraint... and there's just really no appeal to it at all for me. Occasionally, I still drink, but when I start getting drunk, it doesn't make me feel better or good in any way, really. I just feel unfocused and stupid and I realize this is the appeal of alcohol when one is trying to escape problems (even little problems like social retardation and day-to-day boredom), but I prefer reality and people who are consistent, rather than people who are sort of aimless and afraid (or something). Ever notice drunk people seem to test people's limits, almost like they're begging for someone to put them in their place? I have a feeling this sort of attitude comes out in people who feel out of control in that they are unsure of the limitations real life imposes. It's like they want guidance, but they don't know how to ask for it or something, so they act like assholes.

Anyhoo, good talkin' to ya.

― Nude Spock, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

with this health nut thing, nude spock has slowly but almost surely become more interesting than dave q.

― ethan, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In response to all of the talk about how bad bleached flour and carbohydrates are for you, I don't have research, but I have my personal experience. You said that eating carbohydrates leaves you hungry; having peanut butter for breakfast certainly keeps me full longer but having cereal instead doesn't make me binge all day or feel famished after two hours. think you're exaggerating these "dangers" very much. As for vegetarian sources of protein, health food stores aren't necessary. Most grocery stores have some fake meat soy stuff.

― Maria, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maria, everyone is different. Soy/tofu is boring. There's more interesting vegetable proteins to be eaten.

― Nude Spock, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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