― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)
I believe the Reagan hallelujah choir (spearheaded by hateful whistleheads like Joe Scarborough, Anne Coulter, Peggy Noonan, Bill O'Riley, etc. etc. ad nauseum) are encouraging a boycott or something, as the series fails to portray the olde Jellybeanster as anything less than the messiah.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Shouldn't a "miniseries" have at least three episodes?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Because Democrats often get a free ride when it comes to how they're portrayed in most of the mainstream media, and Republicans are almost always painted in villainous lights, and we are frankly getting sick and tired of this obvious media bias. The recent JFK miniseries was an anomaly; this miniseries is just how the media has been working for decades, and I am thrilled CBS was forced to pull this miniseries off their schedule.
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)
It's advertising not accuracy that they're worried about, dumbass.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)
Republicans are almost always painted in villainous lights
If the shoe fits....
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)
Because Democrats often get a free ride when it comes to how they're portrayed in most of the mainstream mediaWell, Republicans get free rides from the Justice System, so let's call it even, Ollie North, Clarence Thomas, Henry Kissinger and Bush Family.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)
The network would be worried about advertising, of course. As Horace said. But you were asking about what the vocal Republicans were worried about (and I realize I'm probably more liberal than most Republicans, though maybe not so in a self-centric sense) and I'm thinking that's what they were going on about.
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)
"Of particular concern to conservatives was a scene in which Reagan says of gays with AIDS: "They that live in sin shall die in sin."
Apparently this is either completely speculative or of dubious attribution. It's a pretty nasty thing to attribute, even if his AIDS record might suggest this was his true feeling.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)
I didn't get one of those "Get Out of Jail Free" cards in the mail.
*dresses up as Elena Ceaucescu [sp?] for Alex's sake*
*smiles*
Also, many thanks to Spencer for that post. The whole AIDS issue was the one big thing I disagreed with the Reagan Administration with, sure, but to make it THE focal point instead of just one of many was just silly. It was supposed to be about the Reagans, not about AIDS. And The Band Played On did a memorable and lovely job covering that.
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)
DisneyTime WarnerNews Corp.General ElectricViacom
Oh yeah...those dirty commie bastards, what are they thinking?
― earlnash, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)
President Bush has selected Jerry Thacker, a Pennsylvania marketing consultant who has characterized AIDS as the "gay plague" and called homosexuality a "deathstyle," to serve on the Presidential Advisory Commission on HIV and AIDS.
The appointment stunned some AIDS researchers and activists, who said Thacker has a shaky grasp of science and outdated views on the issue despite being HIV-positive.
They noted that Thacker had argued that religious faith could cure homosexuals, that condoms do not stop the spread of HIV and that people choose to be gay.
"When you appoint someone with this social view, it is dangerous," said James Loyce, deputy director of health for AIDS programs with the San Francisco Health Department. "It sends the wrong message to the gay community and the wrong message to the broader community."
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)
Could have been either of them, Dan. Makes me wonder if such idiotic statements are caused by generational thinking?
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)
My take is that it looks like a pretty irresponsible and cheap smear show - the kind of thing that conservatives commentators practice constantly. It sounds like this miniseries would just make everyone involved look bad (two wrongs etc).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
Well, for me, it's not about the miniseries (I mean, it ain't like I was makin' plans to watch it). It's about the rigid Right's frothing outrage at the notion of someone daring to paint anything less than an entirely flattering (and, thus, entirely revisionist) portrait of the Gipper. It's like standing outside of Graceland and telling Elvis zealots "he was a big fat druggie, don't ya know!" It's the truth, but they won't hear it.
Goddamn Ronald Reagan, by the way.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)
they seemed to have focused in on this one bump in the Reagan administration, vs. going over the whole of the administration's actions
hmm, what was the "bump" and which were the "actions"?
my understanding is that it's taken from Edmund Morris' official biography.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Just look at that picture! If only it could live up to my Grand Guignol trash tv fantasy and starred Florence-Henderson-minus-fifty-pounds or somebody like that.
It's no big deal that CBS is not airing it, because it's going on Showtime - probably to make up for that horrible Bush / 9-11 docudrama.
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, the mainstream media completely ignored Clinton's personal life. I never heard a word about it. Nada.
(The "liberal media bias" stuff is an insult to anyone with three brain cells. Even conservatives admit it's BS.)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)
But they can't hide the past
http://hipsterdetritus.blogspot.com/creemreagan.JPG
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)
Go here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0375756450/ref=sib_vae_pg_458/002-3513914-6652829
and search on "plague," and you can view page 458, which goes on to say, "[T]o be fair to him, he made no moral distinction between homosexuality, heterosexuality out of wedlock, or abortion on demand. All three were abhorred by God, in his opinion."
So much for "entirely made up".
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)
"Mirror, Razor, Family, John!"
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)
This has all the markings of the same furor that this film kicked up in 1976.
http://fp.blockbuster.com/is/amg/dvd/cov150/drt000/t013/t01311ugjly.jpg?cell=200,200&cvt=jpeg
...except no one's gotten their hands cut off........yet.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyone remember.....http://www.rzero.com/books/Prez1-logo.gif ?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)
(note: the swastikas in the background are an in-joke related to that site's first article)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)
http://killing-joke.com/band88unclesam2.JPG
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Almost buggering Perry White in an overenergetic sit-down interview didn't help his cause, either, nor did he "A Kitten in Each Lap" plan, which would have forcibly installed kittens in the laps of all natural-born & naturalized citizens.
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)
http://members.aol.com/motelhell/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/images/Jaz1.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)
CTHULHU in 2004
100% of Brainwashed Minions Agree:This Loathsome Horrid Mass of Filth Incrusted Madness is the right... thing... for the Job.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Hers is a mouth that spouts nothing but evil lies. Shun her.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 November 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 8 November 2003 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)
i'm sorry if what i say sounds snide, but how the fuck can i even communicate with people whose perceptions of "reality" are so out-of-it? what do these people want the american media to become, fucking pre-gorbachev pravda? -- if so, they're almost there.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Just as well, I guess, that it goes to Showtime and saddles up next to Queer as Folk. Who says the anti-metrosexual backlash isn't ready and rearin' to go?
And oh God Alex in NYC I want someone to storm an embassy building and hold people hostage because of this Reagan film like they did in '76!
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 8 November 2003 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 8 November 2003 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)
evil tho
― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 8 November 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 8 November 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)
PEGGY NOONAN MUST BE BEHEADED!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 November 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)
I did.
― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil, Monday, 1 December 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh, and there was no George H.W. Bush in sight!
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)