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his most hated film. i love it.

ethan, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

his = kevin smith's, not like, affleck's, duh. (affleck you the bomb in phantoms yo!)

ethan, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what's a nubian?

phil, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That guy K. Smith proves conclusively what my friend just wrote to me ie 'I am disillusioned and dissapointed with the stupid inconsiderate shallowness that people (supposedly superior to animals) are capable of ... you disrespect and offend yourself just to make some stupid-fuck look better in your mind than an animal - otherwise life would be obscenely vulgar and repugnant. Either way, it is unacceptable and you want to object but nobody gives a fuck and mental rape is not a crime in a society made up of simpletons not capable of being mentally raped.' Yeah that's how K. Smith makes me feel.

maryann, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Kevin Smith is so way overrated and at its heart "Chasing Amy" is just a movie about a guy from the suburbs who wants to get to laid. Big deal.

And were it not to seem that I will be a lifelong renter, I'd have bet the mortgage that "Mallrats" was his most hated film.

scott p., Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But who gets to the $100 bill first?

ogden, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah,, i thought everyone hated mallrats - i'm a fan of the first 3, but i think he came into his own with dogma.

Geoff, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

critical opinion has turned on mallrats and now it is beloved as being a silly 80s-style comedy, whereas chasing amy attempts seriousness and god knows he's not allowed to do that.

ethan, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mallrats was one for the fans I think. It started out as unmitigated goonery with all those comics and films references. But then the studio mitigated it. Still appeals to my geekyness tho -- lots.

Dogma v disappointing for me.

Anyone watching "Bob and Rose" for that reverse Chasing Amy feel?

Alan Trewartha, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wanted to love Chasing Amy, but just found it all too implausible. Kevin Smith is a great ideas person, but this idea just didn't have that essential ring of truth for me. I still reckon that scene in the lesbian bar, when realisation gradually dawns, is a classic though.

Trevor, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't dislike Chasing Amy because it attempts seriousness, I dislike it because it tackles a difficult subject apallingly badly with a ludicrous central character played by someone who doesn't appear to be able to act.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I seem to remember the film having a whole litany of faults, but now all I can remember is that I wanted to punch that woman's lights out. That voice!

Nick, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I realise 'litany' doesn't mean what I want it to mean there but it sounded nice.

Nick, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mallrats is a fantastic film. For the part of me that loves Clueless, but craves even more geeky references I went through a phase of staying up really late to watch things like Slacker and Gas, Food, Lodging and Simple Men. Channel Four must have been doing something on American indie films. Saw Mallrats and Clerks then. Saw Dogma at the cinema. Chasing Amy is the only one of his I've not seen.

Anna, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now I rather liked Chasing Amy - not really because it is all that smart or good, but I did oddly feel that the stupid characters which inhabited it were quite true to life of a certain breed of twenty- something who has had a fair bit of education (ie can talk deconstructionalist shit about spider-man) but is still immature and emotionally foolish. I know an awful lot of people like that, with petty predjudices, jealousies and so whilst the film is an unusual and unflattering portrayal of mankind, its one I embrace.

Smith's dialogue though, clunky, over-expositional and yet beautiful in a lack of verisimilitudinous way.

Pete, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

dogma is the worst. then chasing amy.

that new jay and silent bob film is a BIG mistake. i think hes pretty overrated. he makes funny film. and........?

ambrose, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pete's just summed up my whole personna with that paragraph. Ouch.

Trevor, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love Kevin Smith for elucidating the concept of the 'hetero life partner.' Mallrats actually filmed in the cheesiest Z-list mall in the Twin Cities, the Eden Prairie Centre.

I try to watch Chasing Amy (my friend/college classmate Guin is in it) but like D Nick, that FUCKING VOICE makes me stop.

suzy, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I found Chasing Amy a mix of the most extraordinary and painful true-to-life moments - the scene where Affleck goes to see the band - and bits which are just... ick (the proposed threesome scene). I like all Smith's films, clunky - and that is indeed the word - as they can be, they've always got great bits. And, incidentally, he's a terrific interviewee, up there with Jan De Bont and Ray Winstone in my list of personal faves.

Mark Morris, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

WHen you interview Jan De Bont do you ask him why he has a girls name?

I suppose one of the things I like about Smith's films is they the do display a degree of unfulfilled talent - the good moments really are up their with the best in cinema history. Then he throws a fart gag in, and something excrutiatingly twee happens. Deep down you get from his films that he is a pretty nice bloke who asks himself the big questions. WHen he can't answer them he takes a big dump.

He is to film writing what Richard Linklater is to structure. Anyone seen Waking Life btw?

Pete, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I happen to have a very personal take on Chasing Amy. Smith and anybody who thinks it's a reasonable movie would be terribly annoyed if they knew exactly what it involved. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So spit it out, hobbit boy!

Nicole, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"I will shove my cock up Amy when I catch her! " Ben Afflek , 1999

Mike Hanle y, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mallrats is the only one I've seen, and I think it's fabulous.

Graham, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the main problem with Chasing Amy is the way that it sells out the entire concept of homosexuality around the one-hour mark. It sets up what could be a pretty resonant concept -- man in love with lesbian. Lesbian spends 45 minutes of film explaining to man that that's really too bad, because she's a lesbian, and a critical part of being a lesbian is the whole loving-women-instead-of- men thing. Then (a) this is abandoned this quite suddenly, and then (b) the conflict changes from man-loves-lesbian to man-loves-woman- with-sexually-spotty-past.

I suppose the film could have been plotted to make this the underlying conflict all along. But it spends a whole lot of time pretending she's a committed lesbian only to drop the whole thing for the sake of moving forward. It's as if someone meant to make a man- loves-lesbian film, realized halfway through that that's sort of difficult, and then decided to do something else instead.

Nitsuh, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So spit it out, hobbit boy!

Can't. Currently curling and moussing the hair on my feet.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Generally despised Chasing Amy, but found the proposed threesome scene side-splittingly funny. "There's only one thing to do" and they he with a straight face proposes *that*!

Sterling Clover, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chasing Amy was all silly crappy stereotypes portrayed in a supposedly clever way. I keep buying Kevin Smith's movies, but the realisation that I only actually like Clerks is beginning to dawn on me. I hated Dogma too, particularly when I discovered that God is Alanis Morissette. I refuse to be ruled by a God who doesn't know how to use the word 'ironic' properly.

Paul Strange, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

how furious i was at the time about alanis morrisette being god shows reveals what a brilliant choice it is. name someone who'd be better.

nitsuh's on the money about chasing amy giving up on the gay angle halfway through, but i think it makes up for it somewhat with the proposed threesome part. i can't remember many other mainstream romantic comedies where the leading male puts forth a heartfelt offer to fuck his also- male best friend, and it was more interesting take than the lesbian chic first half (as whats-his-name complains about in the film, actually).

ethan, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nitsuh: what about the whole concept of the LUG (Lesbian Until Graduation)? Or was this just a Sarah Lawrence concept (Byron, has this changed)?

suzy, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

name someone who'd be better.

Duh. Me.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

personally, the whole idea of the film "chasing amy" sounds rude and homophobic. the film perpetuates the mistaken ideas that "lesbians just haven't met the right man yet", and that "women don't really know their own minds". so yeah i've never bothered to see it, it'd probably just incense (sp?) me too much.

di, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

personally, the whole idea of the film "chasing amy" sounds rude and homophobic. the film perpetuates the mistaken ideas that "lesbians just haven't met the right man yet", and that "women don't really know their own minds".

If you're coming to this conclusion because you find its premise (boy meets self-identified lesbian, lesbian and boy subsequently fall for each other) implausible, I can tell you from personal experience that said premise most certainly does happen in real life, and indeed, happens whether or not it fits in with anyone's political or social agenda.

Personally, I'd say it's my favorite of the three KS films I've seen, despite its flaws. Ben Affleck isn't very good, and his character is pretty sketchily written (and acts like a total dope, which makes him hard to really empathize with at crucial moments of the story). The plot lurches and tumbles at a few key places, at that. But the character of Banky is so spot-on it's ridiculous -- he's an absolute dead ringer for a guy I know -- and there are some very funny scenes. Jason Lee was terrible in Mallrats, but his performance in this was almost touching.

Anyway, the film isn't homophobic at all, IMHO. It's told from a straight white male POV, but so what?

Phil, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i am jason lee in mallrats.

ethan, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

re: its told from a straight white male POV, so what?

isn't everything? thats the problem!! sure, there are examples of the premise of the movie happening in real life, but the movie is still the excuse for yet another sad lame ass schoolboy fantasy to be added to the millions of other schoolboy fantasies out there. BTW, the reason i said it was homophobic is because i see it as linked to lesbian oppression: it effectively renders REAL lesbianism invisible. in this movie, "lesbianism" is made palatable by placing it in a heterosexual context -- just like in your average women-on-women-for-male-titillation-porno. meanwhile, actual lesbian perspectives on lesbianism are not sought after in the mainstream, they are largely invisible, and where visible they are mostly misrepresented.

di, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

straight males using lesbianism as porn material doesn't marginalize lesbianism any more than straight males using women as porn material marginalizes women (and lets not get into that argument again). did you really expect kevin smith to provide a genuine first-person perspective on lesbianism? and complaining about things only being in 'the mainstream' is meaningless, if you want lesbian films made by lesbians they're easy enough to get. my local video store's gay/lesbian section has dozens, and actual real-life lesbians come and rent them too!

ethan, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ethan, you are confusing REAL lesbianism with FAKE lesbianism, when there are men involved in lesbianism it ain't lesbianism, the "lesbians" in het porn are doing what they are doing for male titillation, which kind of goes against the definition of lesbianism don't you think. thats what i'm saying, that crap in het pornos is there so men don't have to deal with the threat that REAL lesbians pose, the threat being that women CAN and DO survive without men emotionally and sexually.

di, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

re: its told from a straight white male POV, so what?

isn't everything? thats the problem!!

No, it's not "the" problem, at least not in this case. Kevin Smith is a heterosexual white male filmmaker who makes films with a content which, though not autobiographical, could certainly be called "personal", for want of a better word. There is no secret about any of this, and I, for one, have no objection to the fact that he is writing a film from his own perspective, a perspective in which women, lesbian or not, are potentially seen with male erotic desire. The fact that the voices of lesbian and other filmmakers are less heard than those of straight men like Kevin Smith can in no way be regarded as a fault of his; any argument that holds him accountable for that is specious and silly. If anyone should be held accountable for failing to pay attention to lesbian and other perspectives, it's the public at large -- but I have to admit that I have a profound distrust of anyone who has pretensions to telling the public what it "ought" to like for ideological reasons (rather than, you know, because it's Good).

it effectively renders REAL lesbianism invisible.

Woe betide the individual who claims to have the authority to dictate what "REAL" lesbianism is! Do you have the chutzpah, then, to tell any of my female friends who have self-identified as lesbians, spent a portion of their lives dating women exclusively, and then began dating men (whether in addition or exclusively), that they were not "REAL" lesbians because they decided themselves just as capable of loving and/or making love to someone who had XY chromosomes?

I know you haven't seen the movie. Nonetheless, my take on it was that its essential message was bi- or pansexual -- that people are, at their best and most real, attracted to people as human beings above all (i.e. rather than gender roles), and that, in that context, labels can easily seem a bit silly. I know that's a simplistic notion, and sounds naive and unclear as I write it -- but it's a notion with which, at its heart, I find myself entirely comfortable.

When I was talking with my girlfriend about this, she said something which struck me as very interesting: "Actual lesbian perspectives don't really matter to me." And upon reflection, I have to say I agree: in that the tokenistic, "We-have-to-represent-this-point-of-view-and-this-one-an d-this-one-and-so-on" approach to this sort of thing has always struck me as boring and wrongheaded. If lesbian and other filmmakers are being deliberately silenced by individuals or organizations who oppose their right to have their voice heard, that's one thing. But I'm not interested in efforts to tailor the film output of world cinema to conform to some college-brochure ideal of diversity. For whatever reason, the vast majority of human beings on this planet are either heterosexual or bisexual. Heterosexual and bisexual points of view are statistically going to tend to outnumber "REAL" homosexual points of view -- and heck, one might even argue that hetero/bi POVs are more likely to resonate with more people, and thus do better at the box office.

There are beautiful, brilliant stories to be told that are nigh-impossible to imagine being told from a perspective different from that whence they come. The beauty in Pather Panchali is not merely a fetishized exoticism, it's the sheer beauty (and tragedy) of one facet of a Bengali-speaking part of India, and you could no more reproduce it using Texans than you could make a successful arrangement of Who's Next using bassoon and tuba: the results might be interesting, but a hell of a lot would be lost. I am interested in Pather Panchali not because it's Bengali, but because it's beautiful. If someone tried to keep me from it, or to suppress it, because it's Bengali, I'd beat them with a stick. But if someone tried to claim that the fact of its Bengali-ness was what was Important about it, and not first and foremost that it was a beautiful and brilliant film...then I hope Satyajit Ray would beat them with a stick. :-)

Phil, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm not coming back to this thread. you are reading what you want to read, not what is there.

di, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The interesting thing about this film isn't the lesbian getting with a boy thing (i mean who hasn't been through that?) but the main character's pathological possessiveness of her. It seems to be a theme going through all the Kevin Smith films i've seen, where the male protagonist expects his female love interest to be all virginal and monogamous. The thing that's different in Chasing Amy is that he only gets upset about her fucking men, as if the lesbian sex wasn't real sex or something. Its a real shame how much this film sucks, considering the number of boring monosexual love stories made into films.

hamish n00nan, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's a very interesting observation, Hamish (re Smith's male characters). I'll definitely have to see Clerks in its entirety now (haven't seen the whole thing or any of Dogma, which I'm told is terrible) -- I know that's a prominent theme in that movie.

Phil, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that's what i like about chasing amy, it's smith finally expanding the thirty-seven dicks! part in clerks and dealing with it as an entire plot point, which i think it deserves. you're a lying heterosexual male if you say your girlfriend's sexual history has never bothered you before, but you deal with it. at the end the affleck character comes to terms with her 'sordid' past and offers a flawed but (i think) reasonable solution, and smith's next two films don't bother with the issue at all.

ethan, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hey- i'm back and i said i wouldn't be. you're right ethan, i should see chasing amy, at least before i judge it, but i have a feeling that i probably won't change my mind about it. it ain't that i think that sexuality is a stable thing, cos i don't, just that i get annoyed when i think that lesbianism isn't being taken seriously.

lady die, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

basically at a formal level, at the level of content, at the level of production, at EVERY level, Chasing Amy was a conservative, reactionary film. At least I SUPPOSE you could say Clerks was a little testing formally and in terms of the so-called 'mode of production'. If you're interested in alleviating the oppression of women and homosexuals and bla bla bla, then it's not a case of 'so what' at the level of content when the viewpoint is so strictly straight. And I don't think we've dealt at all with the formal tedium of the movie.

maryann, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

in terms of other technical aspects, people have already mentioned the acting - but what about the jokes? HA HA HA I'm pursuing a lesbian, how INHERENTLY FUNNY, no need to make any more jokes once you've thought of that!

maryann, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow. I didn't mean to provoke a discussion of the sort that occurred above, but I suppose I'm glad it happened. :)

If anyone comes back, though, I want to point out that my criticism of the film's use of homosexuality wasn't a social comment, but an aesthetic one -- it just bugged me that the film began mining plausible, resonant ground and then tossed it away halfway through to do something else. As for the "Lesbian Until Graduation" syndrome, well, yes, this is a very real thing. But the first half of Chasing Amy doesn't itself up this way -- it does everything in its power to make her lesbianism seem "real" (for lack of a better word) and convincing and committed, then turns on a dime and abandons this in favor of "actually, she's just a bit of a slut." I'm not ing to just pretend her character was a LUG type, because Smith just spent 50 minutes trying very hard to convince me that that wasn't the case.

And -- not to enter the politics of it, but -- I can see how a lesbian would find watching this film pretty annoying, given that a lot of its emotional pull revolves around getting you as a viewer to want a lesbian to love a man. (Whereas as a lesbian, it's my guess that your empathy is going to lie in the other direction.) Possibly a lot of the problem revolves around Smith setting Amy up, in the beginning, to be some sort of lesbian-epitome who Speaks for the Lesbian Experience, despite knowing that halfway through, she will turn out to be significantly non-representative of the Average Lesbian Experience.

Nitsuh, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

From what my friends tell me, there is no Average Lesbian Experience. Best friend in Mpls was well Sapphic for the first seven years of her sex life. Her last girlfriend, a member of a certain kinderwhore group, OD'd and my friend met *another* person from a band for her next relationship, who was a boy. She was as shocked as the rest of us. After long and rigorous contemplation, my friend decided that she was turned on by individuals rather than a particular gender!

And the girl I mentioned upthread had her first relationship at uni with a guy who later came out. Go figure.

suzy, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Smith actually *confronts* the "invisibility" of lesbianism -- that a lesbian sexual history isn't considered real sex at all, but a hetero one is -- and in fact, this is the height of the gross insensitivity displayed by affleck. And sort of the point of the film -- so genderwise its decent and rather interesting. I think. Otherwise, eh.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Joey Lauren Adams is horrible! The most irritating actress since Lori Petti.

Arthur, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As irritating as the voice of JLA is, no one but on one is worse than Lori Petty. Thanks for utterly destroying Tank Girl, be-atch.*

*Tank Girl would have been crap anyway, but she made it a gazillion times worse.

Nicole, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mallrats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else

wtf finding HOOS is a hood classic (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

mallrats
fuckin
money
smoothies

wtf finding HOOS is a hood classic (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

i
fuck
these
hoes
after
our
shows

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

in 7th grade i was silent bob for halloween

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

mallrats i love but chasing amy is horrible.

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

I thought his charm for those he charms is about being a grown-up make-a-movie-in-our-backyard guy, and a good Catholic kid underneath the troublemaking. So more about heart than about tight.

full disclosure: I was an extra in Mallrats but haven't seen the whole thing. I'm in the yellow winter coat at 0:05:

Eazy, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

He has hardcore fans?

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shook pwns (omar little), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

i havent seen this movie since i was 18 btw

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

heres an opinion that ive thought about and havent really decided if i believe: mallrats >> clerks bcuz the girls are hotter

xhuxk d (deej), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

also it's funnier

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

wouldn't dogma be the best by that logic because salma hayek's in it? but dogma is the worst one.

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

affleck & damon in dogma are probly my fav thing in any kevin smith movie but unfortunately then theres the rest of it

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

matt damon is funny in dogma but that movie is so dumb

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

ks is one of those filmmakers where if he was a band i would buy his greatest hits collection and not bother with the albums

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

well clerks & mallrats are in the same league, i basically really dislike dogma so the little things like that dont really matter much

xhuxk d (deej), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

i watch dogma just for affleck/damon lolz

wtf finding HOOS is a hood classic (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

seriously linda fiorpassantino in that is probly the worst performance in any mainstream film ever made ever

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

o i see. i like clerks but mallrats has jason lee so it is better.

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

i feel like i have a much larger tolerance for dumb armchair philosophizing when it comes to lol relationships/sex a la chasing amy than i do for religion -- dogma is really challops: the movie isnt it?

xhuxk d (deej), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

she's made for shit like after hours and last seduction. i feel like she was trying some garofalo thing in dogma.

shook pwns (omar little), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

omg i had forgotten about linda fiorentino she was terrible! i don't know how she ever got away with that whole deadpan means i'm clever, not a terrible actor thing.

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

1 clerks
2 zack and miri
3 chasing amy
4 jay & silent bob strike back
5 mallrats
6 jersey girl
7 clerks 2
8 dogma

DANCE MUSIC STUCK AT RECOMBINANT PLATEAU (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

crazy talk

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

not even

DANCE MUSIC STUCK AT RECOMBINANT PLATEAU (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)

dogma is really challops: the movie isnt it?

Hahaha YES.

Pashmina, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

actually i haven't seen half of those and otm on dogma but no way is chasing amy better than mallrats even though the half of mallrats that's about jason london and that beestung lip girl is boring.

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

id put jay & silent bob at the top, then clerks, then mallrats & chasing amy, dogma, clerks 2, aint seen the other ones

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

actually maybe clerks 2 was better than dogma but i was like 16 when i saw dogma and like 24 when i saw clerks 2 also the whole view-askewniverse fan service b.s. bugs me

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

funniest bit in mallrats is when ethan suplee looks at shannon doherty and goes "...brenda?"

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

i liked jay & silent bob but now i can't remember anything about it also jason lee as brodie should have been in it for longer <3 <3 <3

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

ethan suplee is generally hilarious in mallrats

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

affleck in jay & silent bob is great

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

at least i think theres one thing we can all agree on re: dogma

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Letting me see Chris Rock naked was enough to get this movie 8 stars.

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

o_O

horseshoe, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

lol "8 stars" is such a weird number of stars

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

this is good acting imo

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

actually maybe clerks 2 was better than dogma but i was like 16 when i saw dogma and like 24 when i saw clerks 2 also the whole view-askewniverse fan service b.s. bugs me

― and what, Monday, January 12, 2009 3:37 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Strike Back is full of fan service in-jokes and more often than not hilarious...Clerks 2 is fan service jackoff sesh reflection for losers who care about what "Dante" and "Randal" are up to in 2k6.

some dude, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

it does feature rosario dawson admit shes into atm

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

yeah xxxactly - clerks 2 was all fan fictionary but the nerd joeks in strike back was like "affleck you the bomb in phantoms yo!!" loool

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

it's not like i can hate on rosario dawson shakin titties on principle or something, but her whole character in that movie is some pretty laughable fantasy girl shit even by the standards of kevin smith movies

some dude, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

also strike back features a live performance of jungle love by morris day and the time while clerks 2 has a wistful montage set to smashing pumpkins

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

last two posts otm

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

xp yeah i love some rosario dawson but theres something depressing about how in the last couple years she got conscious of her nerd-ass fanbase and started droppin star wars refs in every interview

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

lol

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

mallrats is the only one i'm not afraid of rewatching & hating (thus ruining teenage memories)

i remember laughing at j&sb strike back but don't remember any of the actual jokes.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

I think he's a nice guy and should run that comic-book store fulltime

Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

gus van sant counting money is lolsy

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

man i forgot jon stewart was in this

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY3NTYxMTAyMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTI5NjY1._V1._SX287_SY400_.jpg

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

is it bad that i laffed every time they said 'clit' in that

and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)


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