The paradox thread.

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Everytime I say something I lie.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds like me ma!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

everytime I eat buffalo wings I can't stop

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Naked sauna without sex?

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 7 November 2003 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

That's okay Tuomas, you said nothing about the truthfullness of your typing. No paradox.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Typing is not saying?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

By the way, I love Blount's paradox. It was new to me, at least.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I am only one man and yet I am a heap.

Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

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o. nate (onate), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The only thing I know is that I know nothing.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

beauty equals truth, tho the truth can also be harsh and disturbing

stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Today I ate brunch after lunch

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 7 November 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Blount's post about chicken is not a paradox.

Allyzay, Friday, 7 November 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It is if you take it literally.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 7 November 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, I'm running on two hours of sleep but I think Ally's right. It's a false statement, and therefore not a paradox.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

Anyone up for discussing this paradox? I'm reading a book on a paradoxes and I think this is my favorite... and I can't figure it out!

OK, so let's say a teacher tells her students that on the following week there will be an unexpected test on the topics covered on the course so far. She emphasizes that the test will be unexpected, and that no one will be able to predict (with certainty) the day on which it will be set, until that day comes. The teacher has done this every year, so there is no question than the test take place on the week that the she announced.

Here's the paradoxical part: The students may reason: "Well, the test cannot take place on Friday, since that would be the only possibility if it hasn't happened by Thursday. Come Thursday evening, we would be certain that the test would take place the next day, and then it wouldn't be unexpected." So it can't be on Friday. But then the same argument could be made to rule out Thursday as well: "Friday is out. If the test hasn't happened by Wednesday evening, the only possibility is the next day (Thursday), but then..." and so on until we get to Monday. So following this line of reasoning, the test cannot be set on any day of the week. But this is absurd, since obviously the teacher can give a surprise test.

What's the deal then?

one boob is free with one (daavid), Saturday, 22 August 2009 08:33 (sixteen years ago)

...no question that the test will take place...

one boob is free with one (daavid), Saturday, 22 August 2009 08:36 (sixteen years ago)

There's a lengthy discussion of that particular paradox in this thread:

In a small town where everyone is clean-shaven, the barber shaves everybody who does not shave himself. Who shaves the barber?

Tuomas, Saturday, 22 August 2009 09:09 (sixteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexpected_hanging_paradox

I am sorta glad that wikipedia refers to this as a 'significant problem" for philosophy' cause I was having some major mind spasms.

iatee, Saturday, 22 August 2009 09:23 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks Tuomas. That thread is looool!

one boob is free with one (daavid), Saturday, 22 August 2009 09:24 (sixteen years ago)


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