no things but in ideas themselves

23 skidoo

― fnord (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's a verbal convention that introduces a long, inchoate description of a concept when the question was asking for a more concise definition. I mean, the exchange doesn't end there, does it?

― Skottie, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it means giving up without even trying, a realization that any answer will insufficient and thus a completely undescriptive answer means more than an attempt to really answer.

― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Love = superword?

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

more pls.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

That a chair is not a thing because it's a chair.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the meter of both utterances match (uhh what's that called again? it's not assonance). so the avoidance of a 'real answer' becomes a ricochet. so, following NA, it calls attention to its insufficiency.

there's something in here abt subbing humor for profundity, too, but i need to leave this office. humor can show us impossibility, maybe? or: impossibility is funny?

― typo acapulco (gcannon), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

but is love not a thing because it is love?

(also if something is a thing, does that imply anything about what it is not? if a chair is a thing, then is it not a chair?)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i.e. something feels v. sufficient to me about this exchange, and i'm trying to figure out why.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

'this' vs 'the' vs 'a'

― typo acapulco (gcannon), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe a 'thing' is either an abstraction or shorthand to denote something that began as an abstraction. A chair is not a thing like love is a thing.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Love begins and finishes as an abstraction; that is it's permanent and eternal state. Maybe that's why "it's this thing" is so gratifying to you - it's in the present, active tense.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

can a thing be abstract?

what does it mean to say that "Love is permananent" as opposed to "love is permanent" as opposed to "love posesses a permanent state"?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 November 2003 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

what is the difference between a permanent stae and a state of permanence?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 8 November 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"stae" isn't a word. I think that's your difference right there.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 8 November 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

permanent state seems to imply rigidness and state of permanence seems to imply enduring??? or vice versa?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 9 November 2003 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Primary question restated: what is this thing called love?

― Aimless, Sunday, 9 November 2003 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Nonono, the question was, what's this thing called, love?

― Matt (Matt), Sunday, 9 November 2003 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Hummm . Let me see. If I could live a dream date, it would be with someone who is fun, who has half a brain, loves to dance is tall dark & ruggedly handsome to me.! We could go anywhere on earth, and just enjoy being with each other. We could do many fun things as well, such as A nice walk in the leaves, swimming in a pool, watch the movie Field of Dreams & listen to some great classical music. :) Gale
-- Gale Deslongchamps (gal...), October 29th, 2001.

― maryann (maryann), Sunday, 9 November 2003 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"F.E.E.L.I.N.G. C.A.L.L.E.D. L.O.V.E"

The room is cold and has been like this for several months.
If I close my eyes I can visualise everything in it right down
Right down to the broken handle on the third drawer down of the dressing table.
And the world outside this room has also assumed a familiar shape
The same events stuffed in a slightly different order each day.
Just like a modern shopping centre.
And it's so cold - yeah it's so cold.
And as I'm standing across this room
I feel as if my whole life has been leading to this one moment.
And as I touch your shoulder tonight this room has
become the centre of the entire universe.
So what do I do? I've got a slightly sick feeling in my stomach
Like I'm standing on top of a very high building oh yeah.
All the stuff they tell you about in the movies
but this isn't chocolate boxes and roses.
It's dirtier than that, like some small animal that only comes out at night.
And I see flashes of the shape of your breasts and the curve of your belly
And they make me have to sit down and catch my breath.
It's so cold yeah, it's so cold.
What is this feeling called love.
Why me, why you, why here, why now ooh.
It doesn't make no sense no. It's not convenient no.
It doesn't fit my plans no.
It's something I don't understand oh.
F.E.E.L.I.N.G. C.A. double L.E.D. L.O.V.E.
Oh what is this thing that is happening to me.
Oh. What is this feeling called love.
Why me. Why you. Why here. And why now ooh.
It doesn't make no sense no. It's not convenient no.
It doesn't fit my plans but I got that taste in my mouth again oh.
F.E.E.L.I.N.G. C.A. double L.E.D. L.O.V.E.
What is this thing that is happening to me
F.E.E.L.I.N.G. C.A.double L.E.D. L.O.V.E.
What is this thing that is happening to me.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Ooh.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 9 November 2003 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.island-of-freedom.com/KANT.GIF

― Das Ding an sich (llamasfur), Sunday, 9 November 2003 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

sigh. if i was only tall enough for Gale

― Vic (Vic), Sunday, 9 November 2003 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)